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I was born where there were no enclosures

http://www.indigenouspeople.net/geronimo.htm

I remember my grandmother telling of going to the train station to see Geronimo in 1894 when she was 12. He was being transported from prison in Alabama to Ft. Sill, Oklahoma.
His biography reveals that he was able to become a rancher in Oklahoma, and actually rode in TR's inauguration parade in DC.

A quick story about him.. His 1st wife was about to die in labor, and he went up to a mountaintop to pray and have a vision.. In his vision, he saw that his wife and child would live, and that for as long as he would live, no bullet would ever kill him, and that he would die an old man.. He was shot 8 times throughout his lifetime of fighting..and died an old man..

Geronimo killed more people than you or I could ever comprehend.. He had a deep rooted hatred for the Mexicans. It was guessed that he killed well over 300 of them in his life.. A fair number of whites fell to him as well once the battles began after the injustices to Mangas and Cochise happened..

Once he finally called it quits to Gen. Miles in Skeleton Canyon, his life as a POW is almost sad to read.. he was paraded around the country as a sideshow and was taken thousands of miles away from his homelands. They inprisoned the Chiricahua Apaches in FL, AL and then finally in OK..

An amazing man who fought HARD for what he believed in.

If there is one thing I love to study, its southwest Indian history. I am amazed by it and almost majored in it in college.

Suprise. He believed the Federal Gov't.

Unfortunately, you are right lavaca.. and he regretted it for the rest of his days..

I think he means that Geronimo was deceived by the Feds.

the troop of apaches on their way to prison:


1885 with his warriors


In his old-age, selling souvenirs

Scottyboy,
Do you have any CrazyHorse of the Oglalas stories?

That would make another good thread to get started.

I was hoping he meant that!! Sorry bout the smart ass comment then!

Steve, I've read up on the plains indians a little bit, but not like the Apache history. The Apache and several other of the southwest tribes grabbed my interest long ago and Ive studied them more than any other tribes.
Maybe I should go buy a few books and read up on those different plains tribes.. I do know that they were some fierce dudes!! Crazyhorse was elevated to "celebrity" status because of his fighting and commanding ability. When I lived in Cut Bank, MT for about a year(right on the Blackfeet rez), I read up a bit on their history.. lots of it was intertwined with the Lewis and Clark expedition.

Any recommended books on Geronimo? I've long been fascinated by his life and awed by his dignity.

Bill,
go pick up "Once they moved like the wind" by David Roberts. Great book that doesn't show a bias either way..

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I remember my grandmother telling of going to the train station to see Geronimo in 1894 when she was 12. He was being transported from prison in Alabama to Ft. Sill, Oklahoma.
His biography reveals that he was able to become a rancher in Oklahoma, and actually rode in TR's inauguration parade in DC

My wifes grandmother paid a nickle to see him in prison in Oklahoma.