OK,I have the 2.5" one & now I have decided to build another one,but much longer...It keeps Jack busy and gives me something to look forward too!I am considering a 10 or 12" Octagon with Intergral Band and Frt Sight,plus some other goodies,maybe a integral swivel stud,etc?....So,what length guys,10 or 12" "Buntline"!?!

You have a 2.5" 50/110?!

Pictures please!

Tyler, there's a thread a couple below this that is entitled BFR Sheriff's model or something to that effect.

Jeese, Tom, I guess you like .50-110s!!

I think a 10 inch would be nice.

Yeah, a 10" with sling swivels and a scope. Should make a potent hunting revolver.

Jeese, Tom, I guess you like .50-110s!! [/QUOTE]
Yes,till I can come up with something bigger in a standard size revolver! Jack is working on a .540 revolver for a good friend based on the 378 Weatherby case cut down shorter.That will punch a nice hole,but getting good bullets may be a problem....Yes,so far I like the 10" version and it will be definitly scoped...

You wimps can keep your little toys!
I dare any of you to shoot mine!

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Originally posted by MS Hitman:
Yeah, a 10" with sling swivels and a scope. Should make a potent hunting revolver.

That's the way I vote as well.

I don't think I'd go longer than 10-inches. Should be a great hunting rig -- a crew-served hunting rig!

10"

Well...10" it will be!Thanks Guys!

How about 18" so it will be legal with an add on butstock to the grip for long range work...Or that could be the next one...

Have 50-110's in 18", 10", 6" and 2.5".

That would make it a rifle, Boomie!!

Nah... just a looooong Buntline with a rest

Hmmmmm,I like that! LOL!What I do need is some 700 gr bullets in .510 ,who makes them?

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Originally posted by boom stick:
How about 18" so it will be legal with an add on butstock to the grip for long range work...Or that could be the next one...

Have 50-110's in 18", 10", 6" and 2.5".

I would design a custom mold

www.mountainmolds.com

700 grains .5" crimp to nose bore rider truncated cone 3 grease grooves.

just pay a caster to provide the bullets.

WOWWWWW Boomstick,Wow!...But,do you think it will penetrate well? LOL! I know I could push it hard,but I think 12-1400 is all I need for animals on THIS planet! (Esp some big Ole GA Hogs and maybe another bear later....uhh and maybe some Bison and maybe some Australian Buff too!) OH,Thanks Boomstick!

Glad you like it...

It would be interesting to see a custom butstock fitted to the BFR "Buntline"

It would be an awesome defensive rig in a charge.

With the butstock, recoil recovery would be minimal.

5 700 grain slugs @ 1300 fps in 5 seconds would be awesome!

SafariKid, I have a BFR .500 S&W with 7.5" (really 8.125" barrel) and am interested in converting it to .50 AK or .50-110. You say Jack Huntington does this? About how much $$$$

I will soon have my .500 A2 built but this could be next if it's fairly reasonable.
With 700 gr hc bullets and a .700" long nose, the .500 S&W can get 1300+ fps. How about the .50-110? I'll bet you can get 1500+ with the .50 AK or the .50-110!

Cool Idea!

Now the question stands, how many will actually be able to shoot a "handgun" at those levels? I know Tom is a bit of a freak of nature, with a high pain tolerance (hey, that's a compliment coming from me! ). So, Tom doesn't count here! srs, do you really need more? Just asking!! I know that jwp's .50 Alaskan is really unpleasant to shoot, and it doesn't kill any better than his .500 Linebaugh or .500 JRH........ Food for thought!

Oh, and yes, Jack Huntington is the man to talk to for all of your gunsmithing needs.....

530/268-6877 -- srs, give him a call......

Jack can answer that to be safe,(barrel style,sights,etc)but he is reasonable for sure....Your(and mine) Smiths can get 1300 and this 50/110 case is almost a half inch longer!,so I would think in the right barrel length at least 1500,probably more?(what you think Boomstick?)

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Originally posted by srshooter:
SafariKid, I have a BFR .500 S&W with 7.5" (really 8.125" barrel) and am interested in converting it to .50 AK or .50-110. You say Jack Huntington does this? About how much $$$$

I will soon have my .500 A2 built but this could be next if it's fairly reasonable.
With 700 gr hc bullets and a .700" long nose, the .500 S&W can get 1300+ fps. How about the .50-110? I'll bet you can get 1500+ with the .50 AK or the .50-110!

Cool Idea!

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
Now the question stands, how many will actually be able to shoot a "handgun" at those levels? I know Tom is a bit of a freak of nature, with a high pain tolerance (hey, that's a compliment coming from me! ). So, Tom doesn't count here! srs, do you really need more? Just asking!! I know that jwp's .50 Alaskan is really unpleasant to shoot, and it doesn't kill any better than his .500 Linebaugh or .500 JRH........ Food for thought!

You left out the S&W 500 Mag.

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Originally posted by srshooter:
SafariKid, I have a BFR .500 S&W with 7.5" (really 8.125" barrel) and am interested in converting it to .50 AK or .50-110. You say Jack Huntington does this? About how much $$$$

I will soon have my .500 A2 built but this could be next if it's fairly reasonable.
With 700 gr hc bullets and a .700" long nose, the .500 S&W can get 1300+ fps. How about the .50-110? I'll bet you can get 1500+ with the .50 AK or the .50-110!

Cool Idea!

Stick to your 500 Mag, it can get a nasty as you want it too. I have some loads that will make you think twice before pulling the trigger. You already have a round that will do anyhting you ask of it. JMHO.
The money you would spend could be spent on a new gun, maybe a BFR in 500 JHR or a 45-70, and still have money left over.

That was my point -- does he need a bigger case??

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
That was my point -- does he need a bigger case??

I don't think he does, my S&W 500 Mag will do more than I want or can handle. My 700 gr. RR loads will make anyone think twice. I think that is where my fun meter gets pegged..lol

Whitworth, what does "need" have to do with it? Do we really "need" the guns we already have? I guess I could say I "need" mine because they make me feel good!

When the 44mag came out I wanted bigger. When the 454Casull came out, I wanted bigger. Now that the S&W 500 is out, I'm not so sure. This one is just down right nasty (with these loads). It may not win the my gun is bigger contest, but you'll be hard pressed to convince me otherwise, or get me to shoot something bigger. Aww.......maybe just once

Yes, those are 700gr slugs and yes, I have shot them through it.
Anyone in the Central Ohio region that feels froggy is more than welcome to try it. We can alway start out with a longer barrel model and lighter loads if you like.

SAFARIKID, I think a 10" model would be ideal.

I don't find the longer barreled X-frames to be all that bad when loaded hot as they have a lot of weight to offset the recoil, but that 700 grain load looks like it would beat the bejeeses out of you no matter what the barrel length -- particularly in the shorty!! All I can say is YEEHA!

My l'il SRH in .475 ain't no maiden's caress either.....

I agree that need doesn't really play a role in our lives and pistol decisions particularly, but, the .500 Smith has more than enough potential to rearrange ones anatomy without even stepping "up" to the .50-110. That was my point -- not many folks explore the upper limits of what they've got (this excludes SAFARIKID as he has been to the moon and back several times! ) before moving on to bigger and supposedly better.

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
All I can say is YEEHA!

That's "kinda" what I said the first time I touched one off.

Actually with the longer barrel they're not that bad to shoot, seriously. As I mentioned in another post the first time I even fired one of my S&W 500's I shot it one handed using Corbon 440gr slugs and I was disappointed, mostly because of the hype I'd been reading. Handloading has taken it to a new and much higher level. I've been exploring my upper limits for around 25yrs and have pretty much decided I've found it. No moon trips for me, this ole boy has met his match. Everyone has their threshold when it comes to pain and this little gun is mine. My hats off to anyone who ventures farther, thanks, I'll watch.

DEC, most folks don't have the tolerance perhaps we do over here, and what may be severe for some is a walk in the park for others. It's all relative and the average person can't handle a .44 magnum with fullhouse loads! We are uniquely numb!

No, I don't NEED more. I could easily get by with my .44's, .45's, and .454 for the rest of my life and never feel undergunned. I just like big bore handguns & rifles. The .500 S&W just looks so short in the 3" BFR cylinder. If I do a .50 AK or .50-110 BFR, it'll be for the cool factor only! I would probably run them at .500 S&W velocities 90% of the time, just at lower pressures. It seems EVERYBODY has a .500 S&W and I think it would be nice to have something no one around here has!

I don't think ANY revolver of carriable size kills better than the .500 Linebaugh, .500 JHR, & .500 S&W. All will shoot through a big buffalo at any angle, with the right bullets. I have shot 700 gr. bullets @ 1300+, 610's @ 1500, & 500's @ 1700 fps out of my BFR. The extraction was a bit sticky though, with some loads. I would like to equal or better those velocities @ lower pressures.

It's all about WANT and not so much need that drives us to more power. If not for that, everyone would use a .22, .30-06, .44 mag & 12 gauge all the time.....maybe a .375 or .458 for AK or Africa. These rounds would do for nearly all that needs doing but what's COOL about that? I think a .50 AK or .50-110 BFR would make a nice big brother to my 4" S&W 500.

I've got a .458 Lott but I'm getting a .500 A-Square. After that I'll probably want a .600 OK. After that.......
Once bitten by the gun bug you get the fever.....and the only prescription for the fever is MORE POWER!

Guys like SAFARI, BOOMSTICK, HUBEL, ROB GUNBUILDER, and the other gun nuts here have inspired me. I may get a titanium 2 Bore Derringer one of these days. It's better to be dead and cool than alive and uncool All in good fun guys!

After this all blows over and I've spent all my money and all I can borrow too, I'll probably go back to using a .22, .30-06, .44 mag & 12 gauge all the time.....maybe a .375 or .458 for AK or Africa!?!?! But not while the bug is bitin' me!

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Originally posted by srshooter:
SafariKid, I have a BFR .500 S&W with 7.5" (really 8.125" barrel) and am interested in converting it to .50 AK or .50-110. You say Jack Huntington does this? About how much $$$$

I will soon have my .500 A2 built but this could be next if it's fairly reasonable.
With 700 gr hc bullets and a .700" long nose, the .500 S&W can get 1300+ fps. How about the .50-110? I'll bet you can get 1500+ with the .50 AK or the .50-110!

Cool Idea!

My 50 Alaskan shooting 525 grainers just shy of 1600 FPS
At the Linebaugh Seminar Last May. Not me shooting it
My 50 Alaskan was also built by Jack Huntington. Jack is definately the man if you want one of these monsters.





525 grain WLFN from my 500 Linebaugh at 1100 FPS penetrated exactly the same amount at the Linebaugh Seminar as my 50 Alaskan did at nearly 500 FPS less

This Buffalo was taken with my 500 Linegaugh with 525 grains bullets at 1100 FPS and the bullet exited. A very dramatic one shot kill, indeed

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Originally posted by DEC:
Whitworth, what does "need" have to do with it? Do we really "need" the guns we already have? I guess I could say I "need" mine because they make me feel good!

When the 44mag came out I wanted bigger. When the 454Casull came out, I wanted bigger. Now that the S&W 500 is out, I'm not so sure. This one is just down right nasty (with these loads). It may not win the my gun is bigger contest, but you'll be hard pressed to convince me otherwise, or get me to shoot something bigger. Aww.......maybe just once

Yes, those are 700gr slugs and yes, I have shot them through it.
Anyone in the Central Ohio region that feels froggy is more than welcome to try it. We can alway start out with a longer barrel model and lighter loads if you like.

SAFARIKID, I think a 10" model would be ideal.

Yes that would be a handful with them 700 gr. pills...

I agree with ALL of the above! I have shot a few Bison/buff with the 500 Smith and both one shot kills.I really Love my Smith 500 Performance Center 6 1/2" as it balances well and recoil with 500XTPS Chronied at 1430fps avg really is very tolerable(guess I'm used toit now?!)It is Not overly huge,esp compared to the 83/8 or 10 1/2" versions...Now,as far as the 50/110 goes,its just plain "fun n ferocious",has a great Wowww factor and makes me feel like KK (King Kong)..The Alaskan guides loved my 5" version,but most of them dont even carry a handgun!...So,like mentioned above,its NOT the Need,Just the Desire to own it,thats all!I know of elephant kills with 44mag handguns and also have a good friend/hunting partner/mentor(Otto Candies) who has taken many elephant with his 475 and 500 Linebaughs,iron sights,5-6.5" barrels,always loaded to 1200fps! He says that IS THEE "Sweet Spot" /"Magic Velocity"..Jack Huntington aggree's on this,as many others,imcluding my AR brothers here on this wonderful forum!..Then there is the BIG Bore rifle thing,same differnce...I have shot over 15 Capes so far and have had many one shot kills,some with the "Puny" .458 Win(not Lott) and some 2 shot kills were taken with much larger stuff?! Bullet placement is First,then bullet construction,then caliber/velocity last...Just my 2 cents worth!

I'm not knockin' your need for more and in fact I applaud your not only your enthusiasm, but also your intestinal fortitude and your seemingly bullet-proof constitution! Keep at it, Tom, many of us are living vicariously through you!

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Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
I agree with ALL of the above! I have shot a few Bison/buff with the 500 Smith and both one shot kills.I really Love my Smith 500 Performance Center 6 1/2" as it balances well and recoil with 500XTPS Chronied at 1430fps avg really is very tolerable(guess I'm used toit now?!)It is Not overly huge,esp compared to the 83/8 or 10 1/2" versions...Now,as far as the 50/110 goes,its just plain "fun n ferocious",has a great Wowww factor and makes me feel like KK (King Kong)..The Alaskan guides loved my 5" version,but most of them dont even carry a handgun!...So,like mentioned above,its NOT the Need,Just the Desire to own it,thats all!I know of elephant kills with 44mag handguns and also have a good friend/hunting partner/mentor(Otto Candies) who has taken many elephant with his 475 and 500 Linebaughs,iron sights,5-6.5" barrels,always loaded to 1200fps! He says that IS THEE "Sweet Spot" /"Magic Velocity"..Jack Huntington aggree's on this,as many others,imcluding my AR brothers here on this wonderful forum!..Then there is the BIG Bore rifle thing,same differnce...I have shot over 15 Capes so far and have had many one shot kills,some with the "Puny" .458 Win(not Lott) and some 2 shot kills were taken with much larger stuff?! Bullet placement is First,then bullet construction,then caliber/velocity last...Just my 2 cents worth!

Tom you are spot on. The wow factor of my 50 Alaskan is priceless.
Otto has probable taken more Elephant with a Handgun than most of the Guy's in the Big Bore Forum have with rifles. I would take Otto's word on performance in a heart beat..

Redhawk,I have one of these Smiths also with the 2 3/4" barrel(also a Custom 50 JRH Redhawk with 2.5"barrel by Jack Huntington-pushes 425s at 1250!!-small and compact)Have you chronied the 700grs in the short barrel and then a longer barrel,just curious of the difference?I put "boot grips" on mine,like hanging on to a bronco!

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Originally posted by Redhawk1:

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Originally posted by DEC:
Whitworth, what does "need" have to do with it? Do we really "need" the guns we already have? I guess I could say I "need" mine because they make me feel good!

When the 44mag came out I wanted bigger. When the 454Casull came out, I wanted bigger. Now that the S&W 500 is out, I'm not so sure. This one is just down right nasty (with these loads). It may not win the my gun is bigger contest, but you'll be hard pressed to convince me otherwise, or get me to shoot something bigger. Aww.......maybe just once

Yes, those are 700gr slugs and yes, I have shot them through it.
Anyone in the Central Ohio region that feels froggy is more than welcome to try it. We can alway start out with a longer barrel model and lighter loads if you like.

SAFARIKID, I think a 10" model would be ideal.

Yes that would be a handful with them 700 gr. pills...

I have not done a comparison at all, but I figure I would loose about 100 to 150 fps from a 8 3/8 barrel to a 4 inch barrel.

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Originally posted by Redhawk1:
I have not done a comparison at all, but I figure I would loose about 100 to 150 fps from a 8 3/8 barrel to a 4 inch barrel.

A man that loves speed, and has 25 years of experience yet doesn't know how much speed he has or doesn't have.. WOW