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I put some 500 grips on it, from SW, recoil is very nice, very easy to shoot, and I am taking it, to the field, as part of my Kit for the Axis Doe/Hog hunt in 11 days!! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | ||
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The grip size is the same as a Nframe????Did not know that. | |||
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jeffe I can see why you like it so. I prefer the 44 Mag, as I have been using the 44 Mag since 1970. The N Frame Mountain Gun is the perfect rendition of a big bore woods carry gun. I carry mine a lot in the city as well. PS You need to look for a spare, as they are so good you can not only have just one. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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OB - the K,N,and X (therefore L) roundbutts all use the same grip, as I understand it! ..and the N and X are perfectly interchangable! Tony, I certainly am looking for a spare, but the price will need to be right. I imagine in 6-8 months, they'll come on down, just like last time. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I thought the K and the X are interchangeable -- I know the N frame is different than the K Er... just realized, I believe, that you put an X frame grip on an N frame... And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. | |||
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Where did you buy the grip? I need a couple and can't quite get my hands on one. | |||
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heh -- K, L, N, X are totally interchangable, if the gun is roundbutt.. one grip might be cross screw, one might be butt screw, and the 500grip comes with a "frame" that attaches to make it work with a buttscrew. I found out by asking Rodney if I could try to see f his xframe grip, with a padded backstrap, would fit on my N .. worked fine, even with the N on the X, but no one shot THAT combo Dogchaser, i bought directy from smith, at a members suggestion. https://www.smith-wesson.com/w...y_rn=46303&training= 37 bucks! huge difference, and this is only available from smith. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I concur! When Colt brought out the Anaconda I was able to buy one of (supposedly) six four-inch revolvers chambered in 45LC. It is the perfect packing handgun. Rich Buff Killer | |||
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Thanks for the link, I looked all over Midway and the Hogue site trying to find them. I'll get a couple for my 629 8" and 29 5" Classic. | |||
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I'm hoping to take some piggies next weekend with it! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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just back from the range.. is a 1.75" 3 shot group, at 50 yards, NOT in a steady rest good enough? I put about 12 into a softball sized group, then adjusted the sights, and put about 24 more into a slight larger, little more right, and a little lower, group.. in other words, that dog will HUNT .. and I hope to try it out in a week! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Sounds very good. What load were you shooting? DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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hornady 240 XTP Mags, 17gr of 2400, 4" barrel.. about 1000-1050, depending on how hot it is! "what you shooting?" "45 colt" "i didn't think you could shoot that in a revolver" "sir?" "my 1911 shoots 45 colt" "it might, sir, but this is a long rimmed round" "oh, that's why it sounds like a 44 mag" "if you like.. wanna shoot it?" opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Jeffe Why not use @10gr of Unique. Save 2400 for a REAL handgun, a 44 Mag. Just kidding, but Unique will give you the same velocity with less recoil, and noise. A lot of people have switched from Unique to Universal Clays, but I cannot change. I am too old and lazy to develop new loads. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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We need an "I told you so" smiley. | |||
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unique and 3031 .. grand old powders... and dirty as Texas coal.. great for 45, 357, and 38v -- the unique great for 257 and 8x57 the 3031... not QUITE as dirty as blackpowder .. but, really guys, those are "Semi" smokeless! i used to do nearly 1Xgr of unique in a ruger, but I shoot 50-100 rounds a sitting .. i seriously dislike dirty powder! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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That's great, Jeff! Can't argue with that accuracy -- but I would sleep better at night knowing you were using heavy hardcasts over those shiny bullets...... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Marco aww, thanks.. and thanks to Tony ... I'll get a but I am a big fan of XTPs, and they haven't let me down ... and the "MAGs" are supposed to be pretty tough.. and a big ole recoil sissy like me, well, the light 240s are nice... I've got 500 RN's, waiting their turn to be loaded up and shot .. I would like to try some 250 FN/Keith types, just aint got to it opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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It's only so that I sleep better at night, Jeff. That is a really nice piece and obviously it shoots well. I would say you scored. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Marco - thanks! We'll see in a week .. and i know i'll get to the big ole chunks off a semi wheelweights! litterally, all of my true pistol hunting has been with XTPs or, rarely, sierra 225gr ... my 708 striker doesn't REALLY count as a pistol as it was a sub moa past 200 yards! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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THat striker is what I refer to as a "ristol." I just like heavy for caliber, flat-nosed hardcasts for their penetration potential. It gives me the warm fuzzie! What will you be hunting with the .45 and when? "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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ristol.. or pifle! in 708- we called it the "lando" as in the huge horse pistol lando carried in the star wars movie ... killed deer like mad, too awkward for hog hunting We are going to mcNutt ranch next friday-sunday .. and I hope to be hunting hogs and axis doe! Hoping to get within 50 and blast some piggies opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Jeff, I cast the Lyman 452424 (and others...) for the Colt, and you know where I am. I try to keep some on hand all the time, in fact have a couple hundred now. Send me a pm if you want to try some of what I cast and I will make arrangements to get them to you. | |||
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jeffe, Is that a new gun (w/ lock, MIM parts, blah, b;ah, blah...) or an earlier one? Curious as it (and you) is shooting darn well and so many folks shy away from the new guns. | |||
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Doubtless, thank you, and i may very well take you up on that. I am going to hunt with the shiney bullets, as Marco says, next week, and I am staying pretty focused on that just now. Boxhead - i am NOT a pistolaro.. i am a turnbolt rifle guy, and love them. I have a mission to try to learn to shoot pistol better, and this one lets me do that. To answer your question, its a new new new model.. with the "case" trigger and hammer.. why case trigger and hammer? because steel can be hardened deeply, while small stainless parts WILL loose there surface harding and begin to wear. its got the lock, its alll high tech parts, and it shoots like a house afire.. and, guys, its the GUN that shoots.. I bet Marco or Tony could shoot quarter sized groups with it. I am like a football bat when it comes to pistols.. learning more every time I am at the range. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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just back from the range .. my 257 is shooting 3 touching at 100, and the 470 AR is about an inch ... the 625 is shooting 6 shots into 4-5" at 50, and about a foot at 100. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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jeffe Pretty good for a 4" revolver. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Jeffe, MANY thanks for the link to the grips, I have a 629PD (Scandium frame, Ti Cylinder) that generates "respected" recoil. I have shot 6 rounds through it with the wood grips and about a half a box with the factory rubber grips but I now have the 500 grips on order (thanks to your link) I look forward to shooting the "new" gun. | |||
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I would say you are well on your way, Jeff. When the bug bites, the rifles tend to spend more time in the safe....... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Thanks Guys -- its the gun, not the shooter.. Marco, in my case, i always carry a pistol hunting.. or nearly as much as possible. But with the 625, there's a reasonable chance the pistol will get the first shot, rather than clean up! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I do too Jeff -- I even carry one on my belt when I am hunting with another! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I do to. If a handgun is my primary hunting gun, I carry a 44 Mag Mountain Gun as well. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Not to start a contest, but even Jeffe knows that real handguns (aka custom Freedom 454s) use powders like H110 aka Win296! Yes, Jeffe. I will be bringing it with me to McNutt. I am hoping to spotlight one and walk within spittin' distance and plough it with RBCD. Gonna look like Gallagher hit the pig with a hammer! Sasquatch We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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Oh, by the way Jeffe. I got a couple boxes of factory 300gr 45Colt loaded to 1250 from 6". It is PMC. I know, I know, dirty as sin, but they actually shoot pretty good. Sasquatch We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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Andy, they told me not to use 110/296 in my popcorn loads and in my tinfoil smith! You know I am a big ole sissy when it comes to handgun recoil! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I use 296 in my Smith .44 mags. Used to use 2400, but have since graduated (not matured! ). "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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I have actually loaded up 37 grains of H110 under a 260 grain jacketed flat point in Win .454 brass for use in my Freedom 10". It is extreme As far as 240 xtps go....I like the Hornady factory loads @ 1900 from a 6" but alas this may not be achievable from a 45Colt Jeff, my .454 is more of a toy than a tool. I am a rifleman at heart. Thats why I got the 1885 in .454. Andy We Band of Bubbas N.R.A Life Member TDR Cummins Power All The Way Certified member of the Whompers Club | |||
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I have a Mod 25-5 in 45LC. I shot 23grs of H110 behind 250gr XTP . Those bullet were clocked at 1100 FPS . They shot well but kicked too hard. My favorite is 10.5grs of Unique behind 255gr bullets. How does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but looses his soul | |||
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i received my triple K "carry light" holster from cabela's .. great holster, and works cross draw from a seated position just fine. if cabelas had had the dual position holster, about DOUBLE the price from triple K's website vs the carrylight, I would probably have bought that fit is GREAT opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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due to a recent shoulder injury, Lucile will get a scope mount and a propoint and be my primary hunting arm this season .... somethings are rough, but having enough gun and enough fun aren't a problem, now, to learn to shoot her with a propoint. yes, i KNOW i could go with a 44, and get some more yards .. but that aint me opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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