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I don't know too much about it except it looks like a lot of fun. I think hunting a real russian style huge bore would be at the top of my list along with a bear hunt and africa. (All dreams to fulfill over time.)
Any tips or stories to get someone started that has never hunted a pig or boar? I suppose the first thing would be to go somewhere that actually has them.
 
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I suggest going out and doing it! Then you'll be hooked like the rest of us nutcases on this forum! Book a hunt with an outfitter for your first time and just enjoy yourself.

Are you willing to travel a bit to hunt them? How far?



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I suppose the first thing would be to go somewhere that actually has them.


Come to Texas, we have a few million of them.



 
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gohip2000, when you talk "pure" russian boar, 2 things come to the forefront. First, they can be very expensive to hunt. Second, most all the hunts will be on ranches or hunting preserves. Nothing wrong with that, but you aren't going to find many "pure" russian boars, free range. Here is a place that is close to you. I've not hunted there, nor am I endorsing the hunt. But, it's a place to start.

http://bearmountainquest.com/SCIBoarHunter/


There are others around the country. It just depends on how far you are willing to travel, and how much you have to spend.

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I'd be glad to help you. I know of a few places in the Texas hill country that would have as "pure" as you will find that are free ranging. I know a few guys with hounds that do rather well catching them.


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Regarding "pure" Russian hogs, unless you are hunting a high fence and the owner of the place shows you import paperwork, you in all probability are going to be hunting European hogs. That is what is infesting this country, and even "pure" Russian hogs brought into this country and turned loose are going to very quickly interbreed with the European hogs, diluting the strain.

There is nothing wrong with hunting European boars, either. Some of them get pretty big, although there are a whole lot more 300 pounders killed than the breed actually produces, if you know what I mean. It takes some superior genetics and incredibly abundant mast crops to produce boar pigs much over about 275, in my experience. Feral hogs have to travel too far each night trying to find something to eat, and as a result don't typically get to be the monsters you so often read about (unless pen raised).
 
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If you want to hunt free ranging, wild, pure Russian boars you'll have to go to Russia. What's here in the U.S. are feral hogs, 37 chromosome hogs. Russian hogs are 36 chromosome hogs and domestic hogs are 38 chromosomes. There are some Russian hogs on a few game preserves, but they are not free ranging. wild hogs. The feral hogs offer a lot of sport and danger. The mature boars are smart and mean. Doesn't matter that they might have a sot or two on them. Book a hunt, you'll love it like we do.


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Just to throw some information in here, take it however you will, but Russian Boars/European Wild Hogs/Feral Hogs and Domestic Hogs, with the exception of Vietnamese Pot Belly pigs, are ALL Sus Scrofa, be damned the chromosonal differences.


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Wait afew years and you may have huntable populations in your parts of the country.
Here in New York they are considered a pest and DEC wants them gone. Hunt them all year, no bag limits. Just need a small game lisence.


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What part of NY is that 44magLeo?
 
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If you want to hunt free ranging, wild, pure Russian boars you'll have to go to Russia. What's here in the U.S. are feral hogs, 37 chromosome hogs. Russian hogs are 36 chromosome hogs and domestic hogs are 38 chromosomes. There are some Russian hogs on a few game preserves, but they are not free ranging. wild hogs. The feral hogs offer a lot of sport and danger. The mature boars are smart and mean. Doesn't matter that they might have a sot or two on them. Book a hunt, you'll love it like we do.


Could you source your chromosomal information? I don't think it is correct.


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Gato: When I read the above I would have bet money otherwise, but a quick Google search of "hog chromosomes" turns up several sources that show domestic swine with 38 chromosomes and European wild boar (which is exactly the same thing as "Russian Wild Boar", by the way) with only 36 chromosomes, while warthogs and red river pigs of Africa are listed with 34 chromosomes. None have the impossibly odd 37 chromosomes, however.

Considering how closely related all of the suidae are, I'm totally surprised at this chromosomal difference. As we have learned with many other species, however, the small difference in chromosomes does not prevent the various swine from interbreeding. After all, I've seen Texans sire children with Okies, and you can tell that Okies don't have the same number of chromosomes just by lookin' at em.
 
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yuck

Thanks for the laugh! dancing



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As close to Eurasian wild boar as I can imagine


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Lots of places in the country with free-roaming hogs that resemble both picts.

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I'd say grab your rifle and go find some feral hogs to hunt. They make great practice for Russian boars.

For the feral hogs, shoot one really big boar for your wall, then start shooting the young 40-50 pound hogs. The smaller hogs taste fantastic.


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Gato: When I read the above I would have bet money otherwise, but a quick Google search of "hog chromosomes" turns up several sources that show domestic swine with 38 chromosomes and European wild boar (which is exactly the same thing as "Russian Wild Boar", by the way) with only 36 chromosomes, while warthogs and red river pigs of Africa are listed with 34 chromosomes. None have the impossibly odd 37 chromosomes, however.

Considering how closely related all of the suidae are, I'm totally surprised at this chromosomal difference. As we have learned with many other species, however, the small difference in chromosomes does not prevent the various swine from interbreeding. After all, I've seen Texans sire children with Okies, and you can tell that Okies don't have the same number of chromosomes just by lookin' at em.
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Well, live and learn.

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Cytological Characters

The ancestral or basic diploid number of chromosomes (2n) within the genus Sus is 38 (Bosma et al. 1991). This number is variable within Sus scrofa, ranging from 36 to the ancestral 38 (Bosma et al. 1991). This polymorphism in the diploid number is the result of Robertsonian translocations (McFee et al. 1966). These translocations reportedly can be either of two types, one involving chromosomes 16 and 17, or another involving chromosomes 15 and 17 (Bosma et al. 1991). Rary et al. (1968) reported cytogenetic differences to be more useful than morphological characters for identifying the three forms of wild swine. However, within the geographic range of Eurasian wild boar, there appears to be a shift from 2n=38 in eastern Asia to 2n=36 in the western Europe (Bosma et al. 1991), and all three diploid numbers have been found in some populations (Tikhonov and Troshina 1974, Bosma 1976, Arroyo Nombela et al. 1990). The diploid number of chromosomes in both domestic and feral swine is 38 (Barrett 1971, Bosma et al. 1991, Mayer and Brisbin 1991). Wild boar/feral hog hybrids can have 36, 37 or 38 chromosomes (Mayer and Brisbin 1991). An animal with 2n=38 could therefore be any one of the three forms, and one having 2n=37 or 36 could be either a wild boar or a hybrid, and differences in karyotype are thus not nearly as useful as were initially reported.


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