I've cleaned up the pigs coming to cracked corn from a feeder and looking for other things to try.

Cracked corn soaked in water with brewers or bakers yeast added and left for a week in the sun works well, but also brings in deer, possums and wallabies who all seem to like its alcohol content.

Adding raspberry cordial concentrate to the above gives a nice pink colur and fruity smell but doesnt seem to make too much difference.

I'm contemplating soaking a grain in molasses and seeing how that goes - and if the wallabies etc avoid it.

Anyone care to share a recipe?

Around here, they flock to raw molasses put out for cattle.

Corn and diesel.

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Corn and diesel.

Don't know what it is about that combo, I have never used it, but every trapper I know off in this area uses it and it works.

I have talked to a few that will buy cherry flavored Jello mix and pour it on top of a pile of corn.

What I like about it is nothing else touches it.

Yep, and until you have had to fish a white tail out of a pig trap it is hard to understand how important having something that is "Species Specific' bait wise is.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Yep, and until you have had to fish a white tail out of a pig trap it is hard to understand how important having something that is "Species Specific' bait wise is.

Boy this is a fact! Especially if the trap is in a neighborhood and there are ten people watching.

A neighbor had a black bear in his trap had to call the game & fish guys to remove it.

Thanks guys

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Originally posted by Larry Matherne:
Corn and diesel.

Do you soak it till the corn absorbs the diesel or just pour over the corn? The property owners are environmental types so I've got to be careful.

I soak the corn then strain out the diesel. I don't think there is any environmental impact at all. No landowner has ever complained to me about using this bait. They are happy to get rid of the pigs for a while.

In some places I have been in Europe they paint a tree with diesel and the wild euro boar rub on it. I don't know if they pick one they are already rubbing on or just do it around the bait. Also, they put some corn out on the round and put a flat rock in the 100 lbs range on it and if it gets moved they know there is a big one coming to the bait, no need for expensive trail cameras

Eny is right! We use diesel to paint trees in order to attract boars but we don't mixed with corn. Even better is used engine oil put it in a pit near the feeding place. You have to make sure the oil will not drain in the soil.
We don't have wallabies in Romania but we have bears.
So in the places where we want to feed only the wild boars we bury, yes we bury, the corn in the soil. Wild boars have a fantastic smell sense much better than dogs so they will find the corn in the soil. More than that they love to dig with their long noses.
Another way to avoid deer is to fill a metal pipe with corn and make holes all over the pipe.
The boar will roll the pipe in order to eat the corn. Make sure you tie up the pipe otherwise you will not find the pipe nor the boars.
Hope this helps!

5 gal bucket of corn or just about any fruit pour 1gal water and a couple of old beers over it put lid on bucket set in Sun for a week. Dig hole pour in mix and cover back up with dirt. BANG!

I've used soured corn, watermelon rinds, pear cores and peelings, dry dog food, green ears of corn, and just plain corn. Nothing works like plain corn for me.

Left the lid off a feeder after filling and it rained---a week later when I came to check on it---yuck!!!! Dumped out about 250 lbs of stinking soggy mess. I have another feeder about 50 yds NW of this spot and winds are prevailing from the SE so the scent blew right to the other feeder. 3 weeks later the stinking corn was a sun-baked dry mess and my camera showed pigs at the other feeder the greatest majority of the nights, but they never went to the big soured corn pile.

I rarely set the trap I use, but when I do, I just use corn and it works.

Course right now we have so damn many pigs it is ridiculous. Nobody is hunting or trapping due to the heat and on Tuesday afternoon while Lora and I were driving around we saw one combined group of 50+ animals.

swine would and do it shit....need I say anymore? I was raised on the farm I own today we raised a couple dozen hogs for slaughter every year I have seen them eat everything from apples to old tires they will quite literally eat anything even each others shit.

Two facts of life living/growing up on a farm.

Do NOT fall down hurt where there are pigs or chickens, they WILL eat you!!!

Thanks guys

Since last posting I gave the diesel & corn mix a try in a trap with a 3G camera on it - I'm still getting sent pics of a wallaby, bandicoots and possums feeding in there so I think it might just be time to move the trap.

Drove out to another trap with 3G camera, that has a moultrie spinner full of cracked corn in it, to add some molasses to the corn already on the ground. Saw 12 pigs crossing the track the other side of the farmhouse to the trap and four days after putting down the molasses they still have yet to find the trap.

Got a call from a small landholder trying to revegetate gullies on their property with natives. They cleared the top end and started planting only to find it getting rooted up by pigs. Went for a walk and it turns out the bottom of the gully is still full of weeds including African Horned Melon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucumis_metuliferus which the pigs have honed in on. Looks like a sow and piglets so trapping is in order, but I'm going to be competing with the melons, or spend a day collecting them to throw in the trap.

I prefer not to dump all the bait in one spot. A group of hogs can devour it all in short order and then leave.....so, you have to wait around for them to show up.

A better approach is to trickle the bait down a road/sendero for several hundred yards, forcing the hogs to follow the trail eating a tiny bit at a time. That puts them out in the open for a far greater amount of time, than if you just dump all the bait in one spot.

It depends on what you are trying to do, trap or shoot. If we are trying to shoot them , we bait in a manner such that they can't eat and run. We dig a whole with post hole diggers, 18-24 inches deep. Fill it with corn. Pour raw molasses or a few boxes of jello over it. Fruit jellies work well too. Take some corn and spread it all around the ground, not too thick. They cannot eat and run. They will come back to it for a couple of days. Granted there will be a big hole in the ground. That is what tractors are for. This works incredibly well.

We shoot them off of this bait. Drag the dead off and wait. More often than not, more will come.

Grizzly bears will go out of their way to drink engine oil. Crazy!

Jim

quickly,

burlap bag or burlap cloth soaked in burnt motor oil wrapped around tree trunk or post and wired on makes for an inviting rub for hoglets!


ya!


GWB

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Two facts of life living/growing up on a farm.

Do NOT fall down hurt where there are pigs or chickens, they WILL eat you!!!

always keep a two-way radio and about 30 rounds of pistol ammo, and water with me at all times when afield.

ya!


GWB

That sounds good, but I know of some elderly ladies here in Young county that for whatever reason fell down or passed out in their chicken yards, and the funerals were closed casket.

Say or think what you choose, but I have actual experience and hogs are no different!

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Originally posted by Geedubya:

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Two facts of life living/growing up on a farm.

Do NOT fall down hurt where there are pigs or chickens, they WILL eat you!!!

always keep a two-way radio and about 30 rounds of pistol ammo, and water with me at all times when afield.

ya!


GWB

Sounds like being prepared for 2 legged varmints. I reckon U carry those in your ATV?

You folks may find it funny, but knowing of three differnt older women that fell dead in their chicken yards, and the funerals were CLOSED CASKET, I Think I have a little better knowledge of what happened than YOU DO!!!!

Also, knowing people that had lost hands and arms to pigs in a pen gives me a slight edge.

Believe what you wish, I know what I have experienced!

Nature is amazing. Unbelievably effecient. Nothing is wasted.

Take a dump in the woods and within a minute flies are on the "job". Tumble bugs within and hour.

Pass out or get knocked out, ants are on ya in less than 30 minutes, at your eyes and ears and up your nose and in your mouth. Within an hour or so the ravens and Cara Cars's are at your eyes, nose and ears, then the buzzards. After dark its hogs and coyotes and weasels. Usually within 48 hours there's not a trace that anything was left. Flesh and bone are gone!

ya!


GWB

That is my point, Meat Is Meat When It Hits The Ground!!!!!!

Pig or chicken, does not matter, an unconscious human laying on the ground bleeding is Fair Game!

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Originally posted by SGraves155:

Sounds like being prepared for 2 legged varmints. I reckon U carry those in your ATV?

I'm out and about quite a bit, and often not in the best parts of town, and quite often in BFE where there is no cell phone, water, or succor. One has to rely on his own devices. I subscribe to the idea that if I need it and don't have it, whose fault is that.

I typically carry a glock 43 and a spare mag on me in town, and a 12 ga. Defender Pump in the right front seat of my Expedition. At my leases I wear my Glock G-20 from the time I get up to the time I go to bed. I keep a light and laser to attach to the rail of my G-17 for night time carry. I usually keep at least one spare mag on me and another mag as well as 10 rounds of buckshot in the "hatch" incorporated into the front of my Polaris. At night, at the lease, I keep the shotgun with me on my Polaris




I also carry a Boker Auto. Seems I'm always in a 9-line-bind when I need a knife, and this Boker Kwaiken auto w/clip fills the bill nicely.




Here is a picture that my bud pulled off his game cam last Saturday afternoon. It was taken about 3:40 AM that morning. I had been sitting on my Polaris about 4 hours before that picture was captured by the game cam just a few yards away.




Funny, but I feel safer up there than I do in many areas around Houston!

ya!


GWB

Hmmm, what animal is that, sir? It is a mountain lion?

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Originally posted by RHOutfitters:
Hmmm, what animal is that, sir? It is a mountain lion?

yup!





GWB

If I saw a mountain lion in a picture off a trail cam on a place I could hunt, I would work at figuring out a way of getting a shot at it.

Maybe build a small pen that the cat couldn't get into, put some water and feed and a couple of kid goats in it and see if they couldn't pull that sucker in.

CHC is dead on as far as hogs being nasty those harmless looking hogs behind the barn can bite a hand off real quick...just look at those jowls. You'll rarely see a chicken walk thru a hog sty cause they get eaten.
My grandfather had a 3 legged plott hound after a sow caught it in the barn yard.
Hogs bite a lot more often than slash with their tusks but those tusks even small ones can lay you open to the bone.

Chickens, dogs, lambs, and old ladies is all pretty standard fare it seems. What about horses? How often do you see pigs attacking and gutting horses?

If a sounder came up on an injured horse that was down, I firmly believe they would go after.

I think you're missing the intent of what is being said.

Would you be willing to bet that if a sounder of hogs happened upon an injured human that was laying on the ground, possibly with an open wound and not moving that they wouldn't go after the body?

Remember, pigs are omnivores just like humans and bears. Hogs will come in and clean up gut piles. No one is saying that hogs are actively attacking anything, but I do know people that have lost wounded deer to hogs, because the hogs found the carcass first.

I’ve no dispute with that CHC, I just have a black sense of humour....

However I recently had a report of a boar gutting a mare that allegedly had no injuries prior to the attack hence my post. A lame horse, just like an injured or otherwise compromised human or animal wouldn’t raise an eyebrow but this report has me scratching my head, hence my post.

Sorry if I came across as a smart ass, but hogs simply do things that many hunters are not used to.

If they could be managed, they add an element to a hunt in places where there are no bears, that makes a hunt exciting, they just do not lend themselves to management.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
If a sounder came up on an injured horse that was down, I firmly believe they would go after.

I think you're missing the intent of what is being said.

Would you be willing to bet that if a sounder of hogs happened upon an injured human that was laying on the ground, possibly with an open wound and not moving that they wouldn't go after the body?

Remember, pigs are omnivores just like humans and bears. Hogs will come in and clean up gut piles. No one is saying that hogs are actively attacking anything, but I do know people that have lost wounded deer to hogs, because the hogs found the carcass first.

If I can find it, I have a picture of a hog eating the fat off the cape of another hogs we had skinned. I have seen it more than once.

On occasion a huge boar will kill a colt or even a yearling and eat it...My grandmother killed one that guestamated at near 500 lbs with the 25-35. He was eating a short yearling in the horse pen...

Bait recipes for hogs are like they are for catfish, everybodys got one, plain old corn is hard to improve on, that's what 99% of the ranchers use in their traps..

We put our corn in old wooden coke boxes so they don't eat all the corn in 20 minutes, same for deer, horses, cows can't eat it out of those sectioned boxes, enven larger hogs have a time..It also keeps them feeding longer for the hunter..

GBE, if you are in an area where there may be some brumbies/feral horses they are by far and away the best hog bait you can get.

Try shooting them within a couple of hundred meters of watering points and wait two to three days, depending on the weather, and bam, hogs on bait !