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A beer, especially Tafel is the go before dinner as a sharpener. Then SA wine with dinner....Rupert & Rothschild, Ken Forrester.....it's all bloody good. And for a post dinner finisher a single malt Islay malt bottled at cask strength (54.2%) Ardbeg "Uigeadail".......it sorts the men from the boys  Cigars....as long as they are Cuban......no Dominican rubbish. | |||
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Ardbeg is a good Scotch...  DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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That may have been true a number of years ago, but not so much any more. In my experience, a data set of one, the quality of Cuban cigars has diminished over the years and the quality of the Dominican and Nicaraguan cigars has improved vastly. Today I think the quality non-Cubans are every bit as good as the Cubans. Particularly with names like Cohiba which I find to be generally overrated.  Mike | |||
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Mike I agree with the declining quality of the Cuban brands. Sometimes, I think that the vendors counterfeit Cubans, just for the cachet of a "Cuban cigar". Having spent a lot of time in Central Americas last few years, I think some of the Dominican stuff is really good, and that many tourist cigar places are frauds, selling imitations at best. I did have some Cuban Monte Cristo's in Curacao that were some of the best I have had, about three years ago. Sadly, I cannot locate anymore of them, anywhere. If you are ever in the Bahamas, stop in at the GreyCliffs restaurant, have a wonderful dinner, and watch their great cigars being made in the bar, take box home with you, no customs issues there either, being a Bahamian product. Master of Boats, Slayer of Beasts, Charmer of the fair sex, ...... and sometimes changer of the diaper..... | |||
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I thought we went on safari to hunt, not to get drunk!  | |||
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How about an energy drink? It sure makes this fellow HAPPY. | |||
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Who said anything about getting drunk, Saeed? Besides, when it gets dark, what's a guy to do?  | |||
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In Chete one year I had night vision goggles. And I used to sit at night and watch animals come to with come within 50 yards of my hunt. The hunt had one side completely open. And the animals included hyena, elephants and once a leopard. I am glad I wasn't drunk then. | |||
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Hey I wasn't drunk - it was just a high speed wobble! Master of Boats, Slayer of Beasts, Charmer of the fair sex, ...... and sometimes changer of the diaper..... | |||
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Some folks seem to see every issue as black and white. Wonder if that is intentional? Enjoying a drink or two in the evening around a campfire is not getting drunk. In fact, I would venture to say that next to the hunting, the time people spend around the campfire in the evening enjoying a drink, telling stories and having a cigar if that is your pleasure is probably one of the most memorable things about safari for many folks. Mike | |||
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Yes, I've had lions walk in between the tents at night and was glad I was awake to be able to see them as well. I figure that as long as I don't have to crawl back to my tent, it's ok.  | |||
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I have to agree. Having a drink or two is a far cry from "getting drunk". I stopped "getting drunk" for the most part back in my 20s when going to parties that were designed for that very purpose for the most part. Enjoying a beer or few, or a couple of drinks of scotch, martini, G&T, or the like within responsible moderation is a long way from drinking with the intent of "getting drunk". Same thing for the occasional cigar or in my case, a pipe. There is a huge difference in puffing on a stogie now and again as compared to smoking a couple of packs of cigarets every day. Is smoking a cigar or having a few drinks a net positive in terms of health benefits? No, probably not as compared to Tea Totaling, but then again, a dry salad is probably more healthy than a good, juicy Rib-Eye steak consumed "extra rare"; but then again, I'm no rabbit! | |||
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Not that this would ever happen but it could be asserted that taking polarizing positions on issues to keep things stirred up is intentional to keep interest up. Just speculation of course. Mike | |||
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Ya think so? Here on AR? Nah. Couldn't be. All of those Mark Sullivan debates have been straight up! I'm convinced of it!  | |||
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Yea, you're right. Just a baseless conspiracy theory. I am starting to sound like Jimmy Carter suggesting that the government is spying on his email. Back to the subject at hand, regarding cigars, focused just on brands, it is hard to beat the various La Flor Dominicana blends, particularly the Ligeros and Double Ligeros. Mike | |||
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Hi Todd, I agree. Having a few and getting pissed are completely polar from on another. However, It has been my experience, you are the exception and not the rule. I just returned from two weeks in Brazil. Never have I seen a camp "Drank Dry" of any and all adult beverages. I cannot understand, going to exotic and far away places, on trips with so much enthusiastic anticipation and getting hammered at each and every opportunity. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Honestly, having been on eight safaris and shared camp with many people, most of whom I did not know, I cannot recall one instance of anyone getting drunk. Not once. Mike | |||
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I would never get pissed in front of a lawyer either  Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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I like to drink but i rarely drink when hunting. I can drink here. I don't need to go halfway across the world to drink. | |||
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I usually, like some of the others, stop in one of the duty free and purchase whatever I like to drink. I don't believe that a couple of drinks hurt a dang thing. There are some that don't drink and then there are some that will sit around the campfire and imbibe. It's my vacation/free time so I might as well enjoy it.  | |||
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I'm looking forward to sitting around a fire while trying out the some Tafel and WH lager. Never had either one. | |||
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We only had a couple at Gilchrist? Lol | |||
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Oh, Larry! You're right. We only had a couple at Gilchrist. Right before a couple more, and maybe a couple more and then you were knocking on my door. BUT....This thread was about African hunting, not American hunting in Florida. I was just trying to be as gracious as my host and keep up with him. | |||
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We have a rule in camp. Anyone caught drunk will be tied at the edge of the river over night. Both the hyenas and the croc have to fight over him  | |||
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That's funny right there!!!!! But don't you think that is a little harsh?? And who gets to decide what drunk is? Dang, Saeed. | |||
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That would be the one who never drinks or smokes. It just so happens to me | |||
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Mike, The output of Cuban cigars has increased enormously, so undoubtedly the quality has dropped overall. So I would agree with you on that. I just find Cuban cigars have more complexity, than even the best non Cubans....and buying them here in Oz is no problem....so you can test drive various brands and discover what floats your boat. And a good humidor is essential And having a few drinks with dinner and your mates is hardly getting pissed...it increases the overall experience, Saeed | |||
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Not for the first time, I agree with Larry. I am always amazed at the number of people who seem to think hunting trips are simply excuses to get drunk away from home. I don't understand it, the hunts cost money, the experiences are often exceptional, and why someone would choose to dull one or both by being stupid drunk is beyond me. Pleasantly relaxed around a fire is an entirely different matter, of course. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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You can do what as you please on your safari but don't drink my diesel. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Talking about drinks in the evening around the fire, Peter Byrne described it like this, "[We] had another pleasant evening, its ambience warmed by [a] bottle of Scotch." I think that description captures the notion nicely. Mike | |||
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Is that your special "reserve?"  | |||
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Alot of water some diet cooldrink and a cigar at the fire nothing better.  Luan | |||
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Yeah, right!  | |||
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Are you being fair dinkum there Luan??  | |||
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Hey guys Im a water drinking machine as you all know. Luan | |||
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I totally agree Mike - in my opinion this is one of the finest moments on any hunt I am attending ! In Africa such moment in sunset or darkness around the campfire listening to the sounds around the camp, smelling firewood etc is just plain medicine to a hunting soul  The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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I think for most (including me) it's the company & conversation that's the most important part of the evening..... the drink is just the lubricant to keep it all flowing. That said...... when Luan & I get together, the drink seems also to be the thing that gives birth to most of the hare brained schemes! | |||
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