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Originally posted by chipolopolo:
Mr Hulme, I didn't think my hero worship would show through as it does , but your jumping to several conclusions, first if you read my post it states that "I have come to the conclusion" that is in fact my opinion and just that. It is also just your opinion about MS. I agree his videos are a bloodbath but isn't that why we watch them?

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drwes
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Posted 19 November 2008 02:56 Hide Post
Once again on this board we have to endure another bashing of a man, a truly exceptional writer, and probably better hunter than most, by someone who has no factual information, only his "opinion" but will call a man who has been dead for 12 years and can not refute claims against him a "fraud". Research your facts before making disparaging claims against someone you never knew. It is a fact that he wrote numerous articles for most of the hunting and sporting magazines in the 1960's and 70's. He was fluent in several languages.He went to Africa as director of Winchester Adventures, a subsidiary of Winchester arms and went to Africa in that capacity in 1968. I am sure Winchester hires frauds all the time. He booked profesisonally guided hunting and fishing trips from the the 60's until his death. He wrote his first book, Death in the Long Grass that was published in 1977 which due to its commercial success made him famous. Almost all biographical accounts of him claim he was a professional hunter and game ranger in Zambia, Botswanna and Rhodesia. This is where it gets hard to trace everything he claims he did and has done. The reason,,,, The Rhodesian Bush Wars. It lasted from 1964 until 1979. Not only have the names of many of the countries changed but the records in many of these countries were purged and destroyed when the governments were overturned. Try and get some historical information from "Uncle Bob" in Zim right now....
Capstick spent most of his life in Africa, living in Pretoria at the time of his death. A lifetime of chain smoking and heavy drinking lead to heart disease that ultimately led to an early death at 56.
It is a fact he was a great story teller and an embellisher on hunting, fishing, and possibly other subjects,, but fraud,,,

I am not a member of the Dallas Safari Club but they give their most prestigious conservation and service award in his honor, the Peter Hathaway Capstick Hunting Heritage Award. I am sure frauds are normally honored in this manner. Just a note, winners of this award have been President Thoedore Roosevelt, Harry Tennison, Baron Bertrand des Clers.......

I enjoy his books even though I have read them many times,,,, it is entertainment, written for such,,,,let the man and his family enjoy thier memories of him and let him rest in peace.
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Originally posted by drwes:
Once again on this board we have to endure another bashing of a man, a truly exceptional writer, and probably better hunter than most, by someone who has no factual information, only his "opinion" but will call a man who has been dead for 12 years and can not refute claims against him a "fraud". Research your facts before making disparaging claims against someone you never knew. It is a fact that he wrote numerous articles for most of the hunting and sporting magazines in the 1960's and 70's. He was fluent in several languages.He went to Africa as director of Winchester Adventures, a subsidiary of Winchester arms and went to Africa in that capacity in 1968. I am sure Winchester hires frauds all the time. He booked profesisonally guided hunting and fishing trips from the the 60's until his death. He wrote his first book, Death in the Long Grass that was published in 1977 which due to its commercial success made him famous. Almost all biographical accounts of him claim he was a professional hunter and game ranger in Zambia, Botswanna and Rhodesia. This is where it gets hard to trace everything he claims he did and has done. The reason,,,, The Rhodesian Bush Wars. It lasted from 1964 until 1979. Not only have the names of many of the countries changed but the records in many of these countries were purged and destroyed when the governments were overturned. Try and get some historical information from "Uncle Bob" in Zim right now....
Capstick spent most of his life in Africa, living in Pretoria at the time of his death. A lifetime of chain smoking and heavy drinking lead to heart disease that ultimately led to an early death at 56.
It is a fact he was a great story teller and an embellisher on hunting, fishing, and possibly other subjects,, but fraud,,,

I am not a member of the Dallas Safari Club but they give their most prestigious conservation and service award in his honor, the Peter Hathaway Capstick Hunting Heritage Award. I am sure frauds are normally honored in this manner. Just a note, winners of this award have been President Thoedore Roosevelt, Harry Tennison, Baron Bertrand des Clers.......

I enjoy his books even though I have read them many times,,,, it is entertainment, written for such,,,,let the man and his family enjoy thier memories of him and let him rest in peace.

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Originally posted by chipolopolo:
JWP475,
Did you really mean to compare Theodore Roosevelt with PHC, and in your post to quote you "it is entertainment, written for such" you might keep that in mind, When I started on AR I saw it the same way, entertainment, but I see venom, anger, jealosy and why the hate of Mark Sullivan as that to is simply entertainment. when it turns to name calling the fun stops. But please carry on.

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Jeff Broom wrote in his book that he employed PHC as a PH

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Originally posted by David Hulme:
Chipolopolo,

When all is said and done, a highly entertaining thread where everyone seems to have had their 2 cents worth and more!

Dave

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I have read several of these "Piss on Capstick's Grave" threads in my short time on AR, and I've never learned a single new thing about Capstick in any of them.

On the other hand I've learned all I'll ever really need to know about a few Posters.

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Originally posted by adrook:

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Geoff Broom wrote in his book that he employed PHC as a PH

He probably left out the parts about the drinking and having clients shoot cows. Once PHC was a successful author those like the Broom's had everything to lose and nothing to gain by telling the truth about him.

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Originally posted by JBrown:

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Originally posted by adrook:

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Jeff Broom wrote in his book that he employed PHC as a PH

He probably left out the parts about the drinking and having clients shoot cows. Once PHC was a successful author those like the Broom's had everything to lose and nothing to gain by telling the truth about him.

If PHC was such a POS then why would Jeff Broom mention him in a positive light in his book? This is just silly.

What would he lose by telling the truth? Printing the dirt on PHC would be sure to sell the heck out of his book.

Jason

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Do the math. Do you think people were standing in line to buy Geoff Broom's book? Capstick did a lot for the industry. Outing him would not do the Broom's or anyone else who makes their living by selling and outfitting safaris a favor. The entire industry has prospered greatly from his tall tales.

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Originally posted by Whitworth:

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Originally posted by chipolopolo:
Congo,
If you wish I will send you the collection before I get Hay Mans address and you decide for yourself. Watching the videos I found it extremely hard to believe the was the same guy who wrote those wonderful stories. I just want these dvds out of my collection of Mark Sullivan videos. Your Elmer Keith point. He was for real. Go to Cabelas in Boise and have a look at the EK display. he was a true amarican sportsman

You want the Capstick videos out of your Mark Sulivan video collection? And you're bashing Capstick??

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So, everybody who says PHC WAS licensed, and was a competent PH

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Originally posted by adrook:

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So, everybody who says PHC WAS licensed, and was a competent PH

Who said that?

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I'll just continue to believe Capstick was likely a better writer than hunter, likely a better hunter than most of his detractors and that the Brooms are the honest bunch I've always been led to believe.

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Originally posted by adrook:
[QUOTE]Jeff Broom wrote in his book that he employed PHC as a PH

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Do the math. Do you think people were standing in line to buy Geoff Broom's book? Their bread and butter is safaris.

Capstick did a lot for the industry. Outing him would not do the Broom's or anyone else who makes their living by selling and outfitting safaris a favor. The entire industry has prospered greatly from his tall tales.

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Originally posted by JBrown:

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Do the math. Do you think people were standing in line to buy Geoff Broom's book? Their bread and butter is safaris.

Capstick did a lot for the industry. Outing him would not do the Broom's or anyone else who makes their living by selling and outfitting safaris a favor. The entire industry has prospered greatly from his tall tales.

I think you have your Brooms mixed up. Jeff is either retired or simi-retired. His son Russ has the successful outfit in Zim.

Regardless, I don't believe for one minute Jeff wrote his book in hopes of increasing his bookings. Jeff Broom could book more hunts than any one PH could run.

You missed my point about PHC being mentioned in a positive light in Jeff's book. My point is that, being a true gentleman, Jeff would have left PHC out of the book entirely if he had been a POS as some have stated.

Jason

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but you have proven yourself to be of questionable character and completely lacking in class.