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The difference in Gin's is the amount and number of Botanicals in the Gin as well as the way they "get them in".

Regular Bombay has eight Botanicals, Bombay Sapphire has 10 Botanicals.

Some Gins have as few as 3 Botanicals.


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If I remember correctly Beefeater Gin has 3 Botanicals, plus Seville oranges.

I am drinking a Bombay Sapphire Gin and Tonic now. Big Grin


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You could mix Bombay Sapphire with Prestone anti-freeze and I'd drink it if on safari. I concur that its where you are, not so much what you're drinking...


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Botanicals = juniper berries. Everything else is just tossed in as someone's idea of how to "flavor" your gin on your behalf. I'd rather do it myself.
 
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Being a New Yorker (with a mother who had family in Mundy, Texas before the War)I read your post, as you being a Texan, with particular interest. I went "on safari" (in 1993) for buff (successfully) In some three weeks or so, I never got to taste alcohol (and I'm an Irishman!)and had to listen to a PH telling me English vs Irish jokes - not only all day long but also during evening {up )to 10 PM when the generator went off): I hate the English! Smiler
 
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My favorite Gins are the two Bombay's.

I "sampled" some Beefeater yesterday and I do not like it near as well as Bombay Sapphire.


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Alcohol disrupts sleep patterns


Absolutely yes! Tonic is full of sugar too. A few G&T is like drinking a Monster before bed. Stay away from cheap Gin. Saphire is good stuff readily available and use best tonic - Schwepps off the shelf. Too much citrus either lemon or lime will get your GI working OT while you're trying to sleep as well.


I use the sugar free tonic with my Sapphire and I can't tell the difference. jorge


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Some liquors are meant to be mixed. Some SHOULD be mixed. But Bombay Saphire? Come on, guys, you're killing me! Maybe just a whiff of vermouth and an olive if available. But that's about it. If no vermouth and no olive, then perhaps a wedge of lemon or an orange peel. But nothing more.

Tonic? Jesus! Who the hell is your outfitter? Is he licensed? What country are you in? Can't he do better than that? Jesus! You should get a refund on your dailys for Christ sake.

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You must be informed that Tonic Water contains Quininne, which protects against Malaria, and several other ills. Big Grin

Although I will say that I was taught to drink Bombay Sapphire straight, with a little ice by Dick Marcincko.

He taught me a "few" other things as well.


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PS. I am drinking "some" right now, in HIS honour.


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While not a bad gin, Sapphire's success if a grand testament to the power of advertising and packaging as opposed to real merit. Nothing wrong with that, just should be taken into account when buying good gins.

As far as what to mix something with, well, my opionion is, if it is your booze,your mouth, your stomach, and your money then how you drink anything is no one else's damn business.

All that said, I did kind of get pissed, after the fact (I wasn't there, of course), when a friend of mine's wife, an Okie, of course (you'll understand when you read the rest of this short and sad story) found and drank the rest, probably about 6 or 8 ounces, of some really good scotch (if there is such a thing, yuck as far as I'm concerned but it wasn't for me) I had out at my ranch for a friend of mine to consume on his visits. That would be bad enough, but she mixed it with Dr. Pepper...... dancing


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WannabeBwana, you are touching on a topic near and dear to our hearts. Gin hits the spot. I drink a fair amount of gin. On the other hand many like myself are also sensitive to alcohol.

For one thing it causes stomach upset, hyperacidity and inflammation of the gastric mucosa. Of course if you are one of these you will have fitful sleep. Antacids like protonix and prilosec and nexium and acifex ect. can be good to counteract stomach sensitivity. On the other hand I must add that I also have some reservations about using antacids in Africa. That acid is very important to kill organisms you eat and drink. I got sick one one year and had to be hospitalized in Johannesburg after my trip to Zim, thanks to using antacids. I wasn't able to kill the salmonella.

There is another problem with alcohol other than the stomach. The brain is well anesthatized when using alcohol and many people find that it is a sleep aid. The liver goes into high gear to detoxify the alcohol and eliminate it, but when drinking there is a load of alcohol in the system that the liver cannot catch up with, so the brain stays anesthatized for some hours. Later in the night (especially in the early hours of the morning) the liver catches up and eliminates the alcohol anesthesia. All night the brain has been fighting to overcome the tranquilizing effect of the alcohol. It tries to rev-up into high gear and regain normal functioning, but it is overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of alcohol. Later at night when the liver has done it's work the brain finally wakes up overcomes the drug effect. This is when it wants to stay awake in a kind of victory celebration. It stays revd-up for a while, causing you to toss and turn. The last thing it wants to do just then is to calm down again.

Well, maybe all this is off the mark, but I have to agree that sometimes there's nothing like a gin.


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You just have to drink enough alcohol so the liver is not done till time to get up. Big Grin

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WannabeBwana, you are touching on a topic near and dear to our hearts. Gin hits the spot. I drink a fair amount of gin. On the other hand many like myself are also sensitive to alcohol.

For one thing it causes stomach upset, hyperacidity and inflammation of the gastric mucosa. Of course if you are one of these you will have fitful sleep. Antacids like protonix and prilosec and nexium and acifex ect. can be good to counteract stomach sensitivity. On the other hand I must add that I also have some reservations about using antacids in Africa. That acid is very important to kill organisms you eat and drink. I got sick one one year and had to be hospitalized in Johannesburg after my trip to Zim, thanks to using antacids. I wasn't able to kill the salmonella.

There is another problem with alcohol other than the stomach. The brain is well anesthatized when using alcohol and many people find that it is a sleep aid. The liver goes into high gear to detoxify the alcohol and eliminate it, but when drinking there is a load of alcohol in the system that the liver cannot catch up with, so the brain stays anesthatized for some hours. Later in the night (especially in the early hours of the morning) the liver catches up and eliminates the alcohol anesthesia. All night the brain has been fighting to overcome the tranquilizing effect of the alcohol. It tries to rev-up into high gear and regain normal functioning, but it is overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of alcohol. Later at night when the liver has done it's work the brain finally wakes up overcomes the drug effect. This is when it wants to stay awake in a kind of victory celebration. It stays revd-up for a while, causing you to toss and turn. The last thing it wants to do just then is to calm down again.

Well, maybe all this is off the mark, but I have to agree that sometimes there's nothing like a gin.


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Tanqueray 10 s great stuff, as is Hendrick's. They are the only Gin that I drink without a mixer.

Both are great on the rocks, the former with a twist of lime and the hendricks with some fresh cucumber.

You'll soon work out if it is the Tonic or not Wink

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+1, switch to Hendrick's, and stop contaminating your gin...


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Nothing like a good G&T after a long and hot day (although when you are very thirsy an ice-cold beer is also right up there). A drop or two of bitters and a slice of lemon is all good, but not always necessary. Bombay saphire is certainly good stuff.

I believe there is also a drinking game called gin-faces and fortunately I have never played it. If I remember, it involves taking a swig/shot of neat gin and moving on to the next person. If you wince or pull a face you get to have another shot until you do not pull a face!
 
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I think Bill is right. About 4 hours after heavy drinking I wake up and can't go back to sleep for a couple of hours. I don't drink like that any more, BTW.
 
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It's a tossup between Tanqueray and the Sapphire.

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After reading this thread, I went out and bought some gin and tonic. I tried it without ice the Brit way and with ice the American way. Good Lord. I think I'll stick to scotch the Scot way.


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Gbanger it's an acquired taste. I enjoy G&T but on the other hand I have a low tolerance for tonic. That stuff is so strong that it is capable of destroying the gin. To me the best gin and tonic is the one which minimizes the tonic and just gives enough to let you know it's there. Additionally, there are so many types of tonic, many of which I can't stand at all in even the smallest quantity. This means that a drinker of gin and tonic is always in search of the ideal G&T. If he's like me he's rarely satisfied.

Now with scotch you get what you pay for every time. I like scotch but rarely drink it. I might comment that there is always more hangover with colored alcohol. On average, Gin drinkers and Vodka drinkers do better the next day. They avoid more headaches.


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this is a great afternoon. The Boss is off boating with some friends from work for two days, I am kicked back with a pitcher of Tanqueray and Tonic, got a three CD set of Patsy Cline on the machine, and an Ashton VSG 8"x54 ring cigar about 1/3rd done. Life is very, very good.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bill 5248:
I enjoy G&T but on the other hand I have a low tolerance for tonic. That stuff is so strong that it is capable of destroying the gin./QUOTE]

Perhaps we should debate the tonic instead of the gin. Big Grin
Tonite I'm at the inlaws and drinking Seagrams tonic with Saphire, last week it was Schweppes. I believe that I like the Seagrams best.
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Idaho, what a great afternoon.

What is the variance in junipers between Tanqueray and Bombay Saphire? I love Tanqueray!


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My bride is a qualified sleep expert and her long version would put us all to sleep but the short version is; Sugar! sugar in the mixers may keep you awake but ultimately it is the alcohol which is converted into high sugars which is the rev up many get about 4 hours in.

Her answer, drink less and quit earlier. Apparently if the sugar conversion hits at a different place along the circadian line some people can sleep thru it better.

Thus my premise stay up and have a few more and it will hit at a different spot as well!

PS; Apparently some added ingredients produce and some distillation process do not remove certain chemical properties which cause headaches and also interfere with the synthesis and levels of sugars so sample around or I can send you a copy of one of her lectures or papers and you'll be well rested in the AM!

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Oh, I dunno, a black guy who used to open oysters for me and many others in a lower rent bar (my kind of joint) named Monsour's, I used to frequent in Shreveport, La. told me that given a pint of Seagram's Gin, which he informed me was widely known as "Com'on Baby", in the local black community, he was good for all night. Of course that was his version........ Eeker

Ever since, every time I see a bottle of Seagram's Gin I think of Joe and his "Com'on Baby." Here's one to you Joe..... beer


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Never did like tonic, but liked the gin. Give me a martini or a tom collins.
 
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