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12 September 2008, 05:22

MileHighShooter

12 September 2008, 05:24

JPK

quote:
Originally posted by Will:
Closer than close!

Yea! X2!

12 September 2008, 05:43

shootaway

That was my PH,HOT STUFF Alan Shearing and tracker HOT STUFF Nyati.

12 September 2008, 05:59

Mike Smith

That got my adrenaline pumping just watching it.

12 September 2008, 06:27

SGraves155

1/2 second later would have been too late!

12 September 2008, 06:56

450/400

Very impressive!

12 September 2008, 06:57

Woodmnctry

I'm confused--- who is the hunter -- ???

12 September 2008, 07:02

.366torque

That is incredible!

12 September 2008, 11:08

BigFiveJack

quote:
Originally posted by Woodmnctry:
I'm confused--- who is the hunter -- ???

I ask you friend, did the video fail to play out through
it's full length for you?

The client is wearing a baseball type cap, mustache,
has an American accent, and his binoc's strap is hanging
ACROSS his body.

12 September 2008, 12:03

ozhunter

Very exciting stuff!!
That early season bush is indeed thick.

12 September 2008, 16:16

Gerhard.Delport

Up close and personal to say the least...

12 September 2008, 16:50

Will

It is Head Trauma (Russell) in the ball cap and one of the CM Safaris pretty boys, Alan Shearing.

12 September 2008, 16:58

dirklawyer

Great stuff, I wish my charge could have been covered that well but Justin (photographer) had to run at the last minute the ele was too close, what a hunt to remember and the best part, self-defense freebe!

Dirk

12 September 2008, 17:10

Will

quote:
Originally posted by dirklawyer:
Great stuff, I wish my charge could have been covered that well but Justin (photographer) had to run at the last minute the ele was too close, what a hunt to remember and the best part, self-defense freebe!

Dirk

Answer your damn PM please.

12 September 2008, 18:06

Scott450

Wow that was close.What caliber rifles were you and the PH using? Do you know what stock the PH had on his rifle?

12 September 2008, 18:07

hikerbum

The hunters became the hunted for a brief time there........

12 September 2008, 19:20

Woodmnctry

quote:
Originally posted by BigFiveJack:
quote:
Originally posted by Woodmnctry:
I'm confused--- who is the hunter -- ???

I ask you friend, did the video fail to play out through
it's full length for you?

The client is wearing a baseball type cap, mustache,
has an American accent, and his binoc's strap is hanging
ACROSS his body.

Jack ----No I understand that part --- sheesh!--- my question is who is he?? the orginal poster?-- member of this forum or ??
Did somebody violate your wheaties or what this am??

12 September 2008, 20:41

retreever

I still remember my first encounter with eles.. Thoughts going thru your mind while tracking and seeing them in front of you...
My thoughts, " Is my gun loaded, even though I know I filled up the magazine and chamber... Is this 458 Lott really big enough to handle an elephant... Final thought, did the firing pin break after the last shot on the sight in range..."

Good shooting...

Mike

12 September 2008, 20:57

MacD37

That, gentlemen, is what dangerous game hunting is all about! Up close, and personal!

GOOD SHOW Head Trauma!

13 September 2008, 01:55

Head Trauma

The video process really distorts the distance/ depth perception process.

When we intially shouted down the cow she was about 5 yards away.

When she went down the path I think she had already decided to sort us out, she was just checking on her calf before coming for us. As she walked down the path away from us her body language was still hostile and agitated.

We might have defused the situation by withdrawing from the crown of the hill so that she could not see us and perhaps not charged. If she would have charged, however, we would have been in an even worse position had we not been on the crown of the hill.

Alan and I both thought, comparing notes after it was over, that when she got to the foot of the hill it would turn into a mock charge and that she would not press the charge home. In this respect we were both caught a little flat-footed.

When we retreated back down the hill, 3 cows came from the left to about 5 yards, screaming in rage and trying to get up the nerve to finish us off. After a short stand-off that took about 10 years off my life, they withdrew.

I was using a 458 Lott with Barnes banded solids @2200fps. Alan was using 500gr Trophy Bonded solids. His rifle is a well worn Interarms 458 with a Bell and Carson stock he bought from a guy who did a lot of cropping with it. The barrel has almost no riflng left.

Thanks for the kind comments, Russ Green.

13 September 2008, 01:59

Wendell Reich

Daaaaaang!

Brass cajones, all of them. Dang fine camera work. He didn't flinch a bit.

13 September 2008, 02:12

PAHunter

Head Trauma:

Man you have my respect. That took balls, from both of you.

Great job and way to shoot.

PAHunter.

13 September 2008, 02:36

Use Enough Gun

Retreever: I still remember my first encounter too. I was thinking: "What in the hell have I got myself into, and I'm paying for this??!!"

13 September 2008, 05:38

Head Trauma

I would be remiss if I did not mention Shaun Buffee, who stood firm and shot the video footage. Excellent video man who understands what it takes to get the raw footage necessary for a great video. Great companion and skilled PH as well.

13 September 2008, 06:06

lee440

Yeah, No shit! What caliber Sony was Shaun toting? If it had been me, all you would have seen would have been a big blur! Feets, Don't fail me now!!!!

13 September 2008, 10:47

TOP_PREDATOR

Pretty close,thanks for sharing your hunt with us.

13 September 2008, 18:29

Whitworth

Great job!! Talk about the pucker factor!

13 September 2008, 23:45

Andy

It looked and sounded like you both shot at nearly the same time.

Were these brain shots, or a near miss that stopped her followed by a brain shot? I could not tell.

I did notice she did not move when you made the finishing shot when she was down.

I was chased off a termite mound by my first and only cow elephants mother. But the rest of the herd kept away!

Congratulations on an exciting and safe hunt.

You have amazing composure.

Andy

14 September 2008, 19:10

Mississippian

I am by no means educated on Elephant hunting but just wondering what do you think she would have done had yall made a hasty retreat once the calf and mother had run past your position? Does fleeing a disturbed mother elephant make her want to stomp your butts even more? Great shooting and videography! I hope you tipped the cameraman well!

Also, why did you choose not to use your 500NE double?

15 September 2008, 02:47

Head Trauma

Andy, yes both the first two shots missed the brain but stopped her. The third shot brained her.

Missippian, to answer your question, I really don't know. It could have gone either way.

I did not take my 500NE because it was at GSI being repaired. As it was shipped from Germany it was doubling. I was not very happy to find this out about a month before my departure. I was lucky to have a 458 Lott as a back-up. I should have shot some speed drills earlier, but I was single loading for load develpment and regulation and, really, who expects to get a new double and find out it doubles right out of the box? GSI/Merkel fixed it no charge but it left a bad taste in my mouth.

I found the transition from years of bolt gun use to a double rifle to be a little daunting, so I decided to sell it. I was having trouble learning to do rapid reloads. I am a little curious as to why no takers at $8K. I will probably end up keeping it and work on becoming more proficient at reloads.

15 September 2008, 05:12

Use Enough Gun

Head Trauma: Keep it and give it another chance.

15 September 2008, 08:17

JPK

quote:
Originally posted by Head Trauma:
Andy, yes both the first two shots missed the brain but stopped her. The third shot brained her.

Missippian, to answer your question, I really don't know. It could have gone either way.

I did not take my 500NE because it was at GSI being repaired. As it was shipped from Germany it was doubling. I was not very happy to find this out about a month before my departure. I was lucky to have a 458 Lott as a back-up. I should have shot some speed drills earlier, but I was single loading for load develpment and regulation and, really, who expects to get a new double and find out it doubles right out of the box? GSI/Merkel fixed it no charge but it left a bad taste in my mouth.

I found the transition from years of bolt gun use to a double rifle to be a little daunting, so I decided to sell it. I was having trouble learning to do rapid reloads. I am a little curious as to why no takers at $8K. I will probably end up keeping it and work on becoming more proficient at reloads.

Yea, keep it. It's fixed now, eh? To become proficient at handling and reloading your double, invest in a SxS two trigger shotgun and it will become second nature shortly. Us a belt of shell bag on the same sie you want to learn to load from for your rifle...

JPK

15 September 2008, 16:40

Will

Head Trauma,

In reality a double rifle, the vast majority of the time, is a two-shot deal where rapid reloading is not required. Yeah, you have to reload it, occasionally rapidly, but not under the duress of impending death!

15 September 2008, 17:56

ozhunter

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Yea, keep it. It's fixed now, eh? To become proficient at handling and reloading your double, invest in a SxS two trigger shotgun and it will become second nature shortly. Us a belt of shell bag on the same sie you want to learn to load from for your rifle...
JPK[/QUOTE]
A good plan.