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+1  This is awesome how everything is turning out. I've been retired from the military since 09' but, it feels like I never left. Another "Band of Brothers!" MSG, USA (Ret.) Armor NRA Life Memeber | |||
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This is truly a show of human kindness & brotherly love. For everyone that has helped out, you have my respect. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Who else may be at fault here? | |||
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Brad, did you ever stop to think that people actually like doing acts of kindness for others that they can't do for themselves? Leave it to you for this adolescent post - charging people lending a helping hand. Unless of course that reminds you of your last "date"? This poke in the eye is what I get for taking you off ignore... "You only gotta do one thing well to make it in this world" - J Joplin | |||
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Well let's see. Electronic communication providers/equipment. Just plain miscommunication between the two parties. Messages sent but not received and sender thinking that it was. Too many scenarios to list. The fair thing to do is when dogleg finishes his hunt with Charl, he comes back and report what the issues were so that Charl is not unfairly judged. | |||
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Jack, You are a moron, my comment was not aimed negatively at those who had helped. Rather, it was aimed at Charl that he "owed" the people who had helped his slacking ass out. It is obvious to even the most casual observer that there are multiple people on this site that "people actually like doing acts of kindness for others that they can't do for themselves". BTW, the quote on your signature line is a frightening realization that a sociopathic fictional charachter has gained real status in some idiots minds. So, retreat back to the soothing glow of your Hi-Def TV and save yourself some stress, put me back on "ignore" if you really think you can make it through the day without wondering what perspicacity I am imparting on the masses today.
Well, that would answer "what" but not "who" as you originally stated. You could be right, perhaps an email didn't make it, question, if someone had given you tens of thousands of dollars to head up their buffalo/croc/hippo safari, you arranged their flights, emailed them the info and they never replied, just to find out later they never recieved the email, whose fault is that? How about a "delivery receipt", or a "read receipt", or even a second follow up email when there was no reply to the first? Just a thought. | |||
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I do not know Charl , but he seems to be a very correct and honest person by reading his posts and i sincerely do not believe he has done it by being negligent. I am sure that he will explain us all this situation. Most important now is that our fellow Dogleg is now heading to have a fantastic hunt and lot's of fun thats what i wish for him. He was very BRAVE and he will have a wonderful hunt . And ....Andrew - congratulations to your Mam & Dad , you are a fantastic guy ! Cheers | |||
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I don't have nearly enough information to know what went wrong, or why, or who was at fault, BUT, I have, in this thread, ample information to know what went right, and who put forth voluntary effort where they had no obligation to do so. In one thread we see the best and (potentially) the worst of Accurate Reloading. I know which I'll remember if I'm ever able to contemplate booking hunts. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Indi: +1 | |||
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From this amazing episode we need to also recognise that Charl is obviously respected and appreciated by many. This support was not just for Dogleg but also for Charl. Sad that some people want a scapegoat to tie fireworks to! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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From personal experience I can attest to how nerve racking sitting somewhere waiting for an outfitter to pick you up can be when communication is difficult do to remote locations. First off good on you Dogleg for having the stones to go. Second, to the group of AR gentlemen that helped Dogleg on this journey you are tops in my books. HGC Jeff Up North in Canada | |||
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+1 Knock 'em down Dogleg! Marius Goosen KMG Hunting Safaris Cell, Whats App, Signal + 27 82 8205387 E-mail: info@huntsafaris.co.za Website: www.huntsafaris.co.za Skype: muis19820603 Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kmghuntingsafaris Instagram: @kmg_hunting_safaris | |||
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Andrew you a great guy and thx for helping out a guy. Hey guys its tim and shakari that made me drink only three doubles dont listen to them im as sober as the guy in aa lol glad we as south african outfitters and ph can help and get some good publicity we not all bad and we trying to get everybody here a great hunt. Im off for a drink or a few on my 40th birthday so cheers guys and anybody that looking for a great kudu bushbuck anything come do a hunt with shabalala. Luan | |||
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Luan I'll raise a glass to absent friends at 2100 hours my time & hope that you'll do likewise at 2100 hours your time. Happy birthday my friend!  And I hope others here will also do likewise!  | |||
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thx mate missing you | |||
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My support was firstly to the good name of the South African Hunting Outfitting Industry as a whole and secondly for Charl, as I knew that the "possible" stuff-up was totally uncharacteristic of how I know Charl! Sure, thirdly my support was also meant for the, then totally unknown to me, hunter who was obviously in a terrible predicament. Now I know Dogleg as "one of the good clients!"  I will also raise a glass of cold stuff at 21:00 local time on the health and happiness of all the good friends that I got to know through AR and hunting in general. Andrew McLaren Professional Hunter and Hunting Outfitter since 1974. http://www.mclarensafaris.com The home page to go to for custom planning of ethical and affordable hunting of plains game in South Africa! Enquire about any South African hunting directly from andrew@mclarensafaris.com After a few years of participation on forums, I have learned that: One can cure: Lack of knowledge – by instruction. Lack of skills – by practice. Lack of experience – by time doing it. One cannot cure: Stupidity – nothing helps! Anti hunting sentiments – nothing helps! Put-‘n-Take Outfitters – money rules! My very long ago ancestors needed and loved to eat meat. Today I still hunt! | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by luan: Andrew you a great guy and thx for helping out a guy. Hey guys its tim and shakari that made me drink only three doubles dont listen to them im as sober as the guy in aa lol glad we as south african outfitters and ph can help and get some good publicity we not all bad and we trying to get everybody here a great hunt. Im off for a drink or a few on my 40th birthday so cheers guys and anybody that looking for a great kudu bushbuck anything come do a hunt with shabalala. Luan[/QUOTE Happy 40th luan. Tie one on  Cheers Chris DRSS | |||
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ANDREW MCLAREN has really showed us that he is a "Get It Done" type of guy. Talk about how to gain the confidence of your targeted customers!!!    D/R Hunter Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal... | |||
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This is one of the most encouraging threads I have read on AR. Some of the things I will take from this thread: 1. The overall goodness and quality of mankind. 2. The initial encouragement of AR members to go and things would work out. (It sounds like it is working out.) They new at some level it would work out. 3. The brotherhood of AR and the hunting community to take care of a person in need. 4. The offers of help and the quality of some of the PH's in RSA and Moz to make sure a hunter wasn't left stranded. 5. Andrew is a fantastic guy to drop what he was doing to help a hunters dreams to be fulfilled. (Hopefully our paths will cross someday.) I am honored to be a (very) small part of the AR community. You guys are the best! | |||
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Those okes Kan 'n Plan Maak! Good to see some positives directed towards our Souf Efrikan bretheren! Dankie julle! | |||
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Shabalalah, I will raise a mason jar to you and all of my absent companions at 21:00 tonight. If you are going down to the pub say hello to that good looking blond if she is still hanging around there. I look forward to brandy and cigars the next time I'm in Lydenburg. Andrew, here's to you for everything you did for dogleg and for the hunting community. | |||
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Andrew: YOU ARE THE MAN! | |||
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Well done! John Life Member Second Amendment Foundation Life Member NRA DRSS | |||
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IMPRESSIVE bunch of fine folks here on A/R. I'll bet Saeed is mighty proud of all you guys that jumped into this helping dogleg out of a bind. I was a bit late on the toast, just about 24:00 here, but, I just enjoyed a fine glass of wine in your honors too. I don't do the hard stuff anylonger, too many pills involved. Am hoping to hear Charl's side of this and more from dogleg on the hunt and how it's going to work out after they do meet up. I'll bet it was just lost e'mails not received here and the resulting panic. Sure wish it was so I could make such a trip as this. I know there's no lack of great helpers and PH's down that way. Luan: Hope you had a great birthday! Wow, ONLY 40? Hell man, you're just a kid yet!! Next one for me will be 70. Wish you all well and thanks for a great show down there. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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I sent an e-mail to Courtney boots in Oct. 2011, they received it in July 2013. Well over a year & a half for an e-mail to make it's trip through cyberspace. Where was it all that time? LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Bwana, It took them that long to find your size, a 4 1/2 EEEEE :-) | |||
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Holy size 12 Batman, they recieved it a 100 years in the future? Seriously, good on all of our South African mates who stood up and by a hunter taking a plunge into the unknown. Well done fellas! Again, one of the reasons this Forum shines at times. On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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To all involved, Bravo Zulu-"Well Done". Andrew, you da man! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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I fixed it. That mistake was done before I had my morning coffee. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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I, like the rest of you, have been following this thread for days and I have learned two very important things. 1. The resources and relationships we have on this forum are an incredible asset in a time of need. 2. Andrew McLarens conduct during this situation have showed us all what kind of man that he is and he will definately be the first person that I call or recommend for a South African hunt! "The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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+2 Third thing is that in Africa, like everywhere things happen, just happen slower! Dogleg is certainly having an African adventure and meeting some fine people. Kudos to all involved. Good hunting and best wishes, Chris DRSS | |||
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Bravo Zulu, Andrew and to the rest of the RSA hunting community who made offers to help out on the hunt. This is the type of situation that shows how special Accurate Reloading is! It's just goes to show you that when we're not pissing all over ourselves we can band together and do some real good. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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This is a rather heart warming result. We should all be proud of those who have offered to help, and most of all to Andrew. I will also echo what he had said about Charl. We have no way of knowing what had caused this problem, and I am sure Charl will let us know. The end result is Dogleg is on his way to hunt, and we all hope he will have a great time. | |||
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you gotta love it when a plan comes together- ASSISTED BY SOME DAMN NICE FOLKS! hats off to all involved, especially Andrew Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Just looking forward to the update...  D/R Hunter Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal... | |||
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One of the lessons learnt from this incident is to COMMUNICATE! At 20:13 GMT I tried to contact Charl on his sat phone - no luck! But maybe in this case no news is good news? In good hunting. Andrew | |||
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I tried numerous times on my Sat phone at the appointed hour for two days all in an effort to assist dogleg at the beginning of the problem, and had absolutely no luck either.  I even searched Charl's Facebook friends for a number of hours in desperation in order to see if I could find a relative or friend to contact that might help.  After two days of absoulute futility, you volunteered to be dogleg's guardian angel! At least he got there! | |||
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Hi Guys I got a few SMS messages from Dogleg today. He took a buffalo on the charge this morning. Sounds like it was a hell of a hunt. They are now after Hippo. Updates should follow soon. He says he has lots of pictures I would also like to mention that having been privy to Andrew Mclarens actions throughout the course of assisting Dogleg, I can only say that if you knew the full extent of what the man did your praise would be doubled. He really went above and beyond. Andrew, well done, you are a class act and an example to us all. Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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I say triple the praise!! | |||
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Since coming to this forum 6 years ago...I've read many of Andrew's threads/posts here. I've always held him in high-esteem...but his direct involvement here in this fiasco and having to give up much personally to make it happen...just shows what kind of man he is! I hope you reap bountifully for your efforts Andrew...for this is just over and beyond! I salute you sir AND I HOPE MY FRIEND CHARL IS OKAY AND SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAS NOT HAPPENED TO HIM AS THIS IS COMPLETELY OPPOSITE OF HIS NATURE/INTEGRITY! Roland | |||
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