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Bwana Mojo I have alreday sent him an email through his website and will let you all know if I get a response. If you would have read through the whole thread you will see that I think of him as one of the good guys, that he may not even know the leopard was a female (if it was) and I would apoligise if wrong. STAY IN THE FIGHT! | |||
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Moja, sorry to state the obvious, but apparently you did not pay attention to what website you were posting on. This is Accurate Reloading. | |||
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Damn but you just made me spit good Earl Grey tea all over my keyboard!    | |||
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I've hunted Leopard many times, mostly without success. I have also said more than once that the hunter has ultimate responsibility in pulling the trigger, but I must confess Leopard is the hardest of the DG for me as a hunter to identify male or female. That makes it a situation where the expertise and ethics of your PH really plays a critical role. As always, discretion in selection of an outfitter and PH should be paramount in planning your next safari. You should have complete confidence in an instruction to shoot a specific animal. If you are unable to make an independent assessment and that 100% confidence is not present, don't pull the trigger. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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Posted 13 February 2012 21:58 Hide Post So to use a "tag line" "where is Colorado Buck today"? I don't know where he is today, but I saw him all weekend at the SFW show in Salt Lake. It was the first time I'd met him and actually spoken with him. He was a down to earth and funny guy. I came away actually liking him. Much different from that pompous ass Bob Foulkrod I once shared a camp with in S.A., who could never stop talking about himself and how great he is. | |||
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Has CB's character actually been attacked? I scanned the posts again. I do not see it. Some most certainly want to know if it was a female. Some want to know if this was a legal hunt. Is that attacking his character? Not to me. This is mild by AR standards. | |||
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I don't think anyone attacked the man's character, just a few questions. FWIW- I enjoy watching his hunting show. He truly enjoys hunting, enjoys traveling the world, and experiencing more than just the hunt. I watched the video in question and saw it was a SA PH hunting in Zim and had the same question. Congrats to the hunter for finally getting his leopard. The danger of civilization, of course, is that you will piss away your life on nonsense | |||
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well i'm not sure but the hair on both appears to be female   | |||
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I can't believe anyone even watches his show! I rented two older videos of his years ago, strong southern accent with the name colorado buck?  | |||
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I met Colorado Buck in London, Heathrow, on my way to hunt red stag in Scotland. He was on his way to film a show in Eastern Europe on stag and fallow deer. We chatted for a long while between our respective flights. He is a VERY nice guy, without an ounce of conceit. However, I did get the impression that he simply does what he is told to do; goes where he is told to go; and shoots what he is told to shoot. He never pretends to be an expert on what he is hunting. Instead, he relys on those who are experts to guide him. A year later, we ran into him at the Dallas show, and he remembered our crossing paths and wanted all the details of our hunt. After listening to him describe his hunt, my impression was reinforced that he is blank canvas when he goes on a hunt. It's up to others to paint the picture. From what I know of the man, he would not shoot unless told to shoot. | |||
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I won't hold a PH to his word when estimating trophy size, but when it comes to sexing leopards, zebras, etc, he has to be perfect. I sure as hell won't be... | |||
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More to the point - WHO is Colorado Buck?? A hunting celebrity? Geez, how many of them do you guys have?? A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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He's sort of like ' crocodile dundee'!  martinpieterssafaris@gmail.com www.martinpieterssafaris.com " hunt as if it's your last one you'll ever be on" | |||
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Thanks Martin!! He seems to be some kind of real estate salesman, come hunting celebrity. I dont know, I cant keep up with all of these personalities. http://www.heycoloradobuck.com...mcatchersranches.asp A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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Ironic. The fictional character "Crocodile Dundee" was a crocodile poacher. The fictional character was based on a real person, Rod Ansell. Ansell was marooned up a creek in the Northern Territory. He survived there for two months before being rescued or walking out or something like that. It was always alleged he was poaching crocodiles in the creek when marooned. Later he ran a hunting safari outiftter business and a cattle station. That eventually fell through and he was a "dodgy" character (  ), and in the end was on the run from Police. The coppers put road blocks across the North and he shot dead a copper and was shot dead himself in a shoot out with Police.Hopefully Colorado Buck is not a Crocodile Dundee. | |||
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Don't judge the guy until you have viewed the website I had never heard of him before this thread. I liked the guy after a bit of research, but now, Well.... BTW, there is only one "CB" and that is Craig Boddington. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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While I doubt he was hunting with Bouna on an auction hunt, there have been others in the auction area that have killed females. At one time I think the auction permit did not specify male or female. Regardless, for a tv show, personality or even the network to allow a hunt to be conducted under dubious circumstances is deplorable. If anyone had performed a background check on these people it would have been evident the issuance of quota to Bouna in the auction area is political and wrong. Also Bouna had been making use of a camp built by and run by a white Zim PH, which was taken from him. The current "owner" is who? A person on the banned list or a person associated with someone on the banned list. I don't know Colorado Buck, but while I would like to hear his side of the story there is no excuse to have participated in a hunt in the Auction area unless that hunt was an Auction hunt. Over the years there has been a progression of bending the rules with these hunts and nothing was done. Now the envelope has been pushed with extra quota and the area operated without regard to the long term conservation goals on which it was established. This situation is a another reminder of the forgotten purpose of why we hunt, greed and the lowering of our ethics as hunters and people. | |||
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I don't know him . I have seen the show and do not care for it personally. He has episodes filmed with companies in the RSA that have been caught hunting illegally in Zim (not Bouna). There was also one episode where it was pretty clearly a canned lion hunt. As I recall, one could see power lines in the background as well as vehicles passing on the road. I don't know whether this leopard or a female or not. The determination of male versus female on leopard is not always easy. As I understand it there are serious penalties for shooting a female leopard in Zim. Ask Guy Whittal. While it is an interesting question with potential serious legal ramifications for Colorado Buck, he owes AR no explanation. If he e mails those inquiring and says that it was a female, what is gong to be done with that information? He would be stupid to answer in the affirmative. The Bouna thing may or may not be illegal. I suspect the latter but have no evidence. Once again, this is an interesting question that has potential serious legal consequences to Colorado Buck. He would be wise to keep quiet on this issue as well. Personally, I hope it is a male. I hope the hunt was legal. If not, he may have some serious issues on his hands. Televising illegal activities would be incredibly stupid. | |||
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i am just kind of curious how someone with a hunting show got a name like Colorado Buck. what's next- Roosevelt Elk? Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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I accidently ran accross this today. I wonder if he imported the trophies?? Gwaii and Hwange hunting areas?? Morgan Harris PH in Zim?? http://www.lhsafaris.com/huntr_colorado2008.html Hunt Reports Colorado Buck ZIMBABWE 2008 Hunting Party: Colorado Buck , WWCB TV Show and the Outfitter TV Show Safari Dates: Sept. 20 to Oct. 6 2008 PH's: Morgan Harris Trackers: Steve and Pilot Hunting Area: Binga, Gwayi River and Hwange Trophies Taken: Elephant, Hippo, Civet Comments: The most memorable Safari I have had to date, every aspect of the trip was covered all logistics from Flights arranged from and to Victoria Falls - the Food was very good and plentiful all accommodations were better than average and most comfortable- travel throughout Zimbabwe was with out events and connection and ( relationships ) with the locals provided a very comfortable environment. I took an enormous 67 lb. Bull Elephant - one of the most memorable experiences of my life - I also took a very large Hippo and Civet I have no choice but to highly recommend both the Safari Outfitter "Lew Harris Safaris " there staff and there hunting blocks. Sincerely, Colorado Buck | |||
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Gwayi River? Is that illegally occupied land? Or is there a part of it that wasn't seized by warvets and the rightful owners thrown off it? If it was an illegal hunt, I hope this Colorado Buck gets the book thrown at him and publicly as it may just send a message out wide and clear. US AR members, get onto it. From all the reports of whom he uses, looks like he doesn't give a fuck about using any disreputable operators. | |||
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Is that elephant really 67 pounds to the side? Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I am not an elephant expert at all, but I would guess that elephant is maximum half of that. I would have guessed him to be a 25-30 pound bull when I compare with pics of other elephants. | |||
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No doubt, that bull is alot closer to 30 than 40, much less 67 - but that's not really the point. Guys, I hope you will simply take my statements here as serious concern for the state of hunting in Zim (Not all of Zim of course) First with Bouna Safaris in Nyakasanga, and now hunting Zim with LH Safaris - SA, in these areas, man this is really concerning. "Hunting areas Gwaii river & Hwange", I would like very much to know exactly what/where that was? Does "Hwange" mean the park, or in the surrounding area? Hunting with, and promoting these guys on TV/Video, I'm just not sure what's going on? Do the sponsors of the show, viewers, etc - really know what the hunter is up to? Or frankly, does the hunter himself really know what he's up to? I'm not sure, but regardless, its NOT good for the Zimbabwe hunting industry as a whole, and its certainly not good for the wildlife - JMO. | |||
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From the photo it sure doesn't look like it. | |||
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Like Aaron, I'd estimate that ivory at closer to 30# than 40# and nowhere near 67#! Where did Mr. Buck get that weight number? This alone really makes me question this guys legitimacy as a hunter - maybe he's just a shooter? LACY Act violations? Not for me to say, but I would be concerned were I Mr. Buck. Somehow I doubt he has any more knowledge of the law than he does of hunting africa, african species or the use of a scale; not even a clue. I'm afraid I have no time for Mr. Buck nor his kind. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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The big picture here is that there is a person named Colorado Buck. Our focus should not be on illegal hunts or male/female leopards...the guy is named Colorado Buck...how can you get past that...I am just hung up on that....can't get past it......trying to get past it...nope..Colorado Buck!  Ok back to the debate... Colorado Buck..that's the guys name? who allowed that to happen? Does his wife call him that?Oh man that is rich.  | |||
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Man, I'm so glad I'm not a tv personality. without actually knowing the answer to any of the questions about whether he shot a female, whether he knew all the details of his hunts legality etc., the guys actions are put into question, accusations made, he's invited to defend himself (if I got a nice email saying "I think you f*&Ed up come defend yourself to me a total stranger that you owe absolutely nothing to, I'd say go pound sand). I've noticed that guys here sometimes let their passion make them assholes, tearing down another man's trophies, holding people to unreasonable (in some cases) standards. How is somebody outside the country they're going to hunt in supposed to know all the shit involved in whether it is legal? really? Even on here I've seen guys FROM certain countries disagree about whether something that happened was legal! You do realize AR isn't searchable through google right, this wonderful information we have and people to ask questions to, millions, billions of people probably don't even know it exists!!!! I know plenty of hunters that are ignorant of the power of the internet, yet people here expect guys to know everything about who they're booking with? Nobody would ever get screwed over if we were all omniscient. and the comments about him not caring who he books with. I don't know the guy, and looking at the website I have some opinions about the dreamcatcher ranches, but that doesn't tell me he's doing anything other than trying to make money. It doesn't tell me he's the type of person that would knowingly set himself up to do an illegal hunt. How many people are there really that are so morally bent that they would intentionally do something illegal, let alone tv personalities who are going to be subject to millions of eyes watching their every move Would it have been better to contact him and say,"hey man, I've heard some bad things about the outfit you just hunted with, do you know anything about it? Would you be interested in joining a discussion we're having on the legalities of south africans hunting in zim and whether there is something as a community we could do to help stop it." more flies with honey and all that. Red At least 50% of the time I feel like responding to a thread I type it all out, read it and just close the window. probably should have this time too. | |||
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Perhaps thats 67# TOTAL not per side---- :hillbilly: SSR | |||
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In this Country you can't discriminate much anymore. Got to take everyone as is and spend endless amounts of time gathering facts before you have a fair basis to make fun of them. I understand there is still a loophole for anyone named Colorado Buck or Idaho Doe. I say we take advantage of it. | |||
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Red, No offense intended...but one would have to be very naive to believe most of what you just wrote. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I was lucky enough to share a meal with Colorado & his dad one morning. He was very nice & ask me a lot about my 1 & only safari at that time. I found him to be a nice fellow. As more making fun of his name, maybe his mama named him that, I don't know nor care. Heck, my mama named me Cecil, 56 years & I still don't like it. I keep waiting for the lynch mob to start yelling "get a rope" . If Colorado has broken the law with the leopard or hunted on an illegal hunt he needs to be taken to task for it. But from what I've read on here, there is mostly just speculation & quite a bit of juvenile gossip going on. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Cecil, The LCTF has been investigating Bouna Safari's atrocities to lion in Nyakasanga/Sapi for quite some time now. They are an unscrupulous outfitter and most likely have conducted illegal hunts. If one researches that company any at all with the professional Zim associations...it is NOT hard to find out. Anyone that televises our sport...I hold to a level of professionalism to vet the company and places they hunt. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Cecil, I agree with you to some extent. No argument about his name, trophies, or his on air personality. I have never met him or even watched his show. What I do care about is him promoting hunts in the Gwayi and Hwange with an unlicensed PH. The fact is he did just that, it is not juvenile gossip. It is on video and in his writing. To me it is a slap in the face of every legitimate operator in Zimbabwe. | |||
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Exactly - 100% spot on Mike! Same for the hunt in Nyakasanga with Bouna Safaris. Its not a personal issue against Colorado, its simply about the issues facing Zim and many of the hunts that are being conducted. I've never met the man, I have NO reason to dislike him at all. | |||
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Mr. Dago Red: I can understand what you wrote, but the reality is, as a TV personality in the hunting world, you're held to an even higher standard than the average Joe. Ignorance is not an excuse for violating any hunting standards, any regulations or any laws regarding animals. Ignorance cannot be used as an excuse for not being knowledgeable about alleged shady outfitters. Kids and adults look at TV hunting personalities as role models. Once you step in front of the camera you should realize that everything you do with a gun in your hands, also in public and private life, comes under scrutiny. The host of any outdoors program should step aside if he's not prepared to accept that responsibility. Also whatever he writes, blogs, Tweets or says through social media, comes under the exact same scrutiny. It may not always be right, it may not be fair...but it is most definitely REALITY. | |||
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Grafton, I'm with you. Your post was hilarious! "There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark | |||
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see my post above Grafton. when you start naming yourself after a game animal- well, credibilty takes a hike! Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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