quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
When I look back at how my first hunt to Africa was planned, I keep wondering how it actually worked out so well.

I ticked all the wrong boxes.

I was in Seattle, Washington, visiting Boeing.

I was going to Houston in a couple of months time to do a commercial pilot training course.

I read a hunting magazine, and in it was an adverts for the Klinebergers, offering hunts in Africa.

I thought I might enjoy facing what Capstick so scared off, the buffalo.

I went to see them, and met a gentleman and his son. You can say they were both gentlemen without any reservations.

They answered all my questions, and went out of their way to help a new hunter.

I said I wented to go right now!!

He said he had an opening for a 21 day all bag hunt in Zimbabwe - I have never even heard of that country before.

I had no rifles, and I was going to fly back to England to pick up my girl friend, then to Zimbabwe.

No problems.

They took me to a gunshop, I bought 2 second hand rifles.

A Remington Safari 375 H&H and a Ruger 77 25-06.

I asked how do I get the rifles to Zimbabwe.

No problem.

They organized that and the rifles were waiting for me at the airport at Vic Falls!

Arrived in the morning in Zim, got picked at the airport by Roy Vincent.

He asked what animals I was after.

I told him "everything I can shoot"

Had lunch, and went out in the after noon and shot a waterbuck.

A few days later we found an elephant.

Got close to him, and I was working in my mind how I would shoot.

Pull the trigger, reload, pull the trigger, reload, pull the trigger.

Imagine my total shock when the elephant dropped down stone dead as I fired.

A few days later we went to the Deka safari area.

The cam was at a waterhole.

Went out in the afternoon and followed some buffalo.

Caught up with them just before sun down at the waterhole by the camp!!??

Rene, and her two young kids, Alan and Diana were watching the buffalo have a drink.

They had no idea we were across the river watching the buffalo.

The Remington takes 2 in the magazine, and one in the chamber.

I somehow managed to squeeze a third one in the magazine, and chambered a fourth round.

I fired at the buffalo, the magazine bottom opened, all the cartridges fell out, I started running at break neck speed after the buffalo, loading a round by hand.

Roy was screaming STOP RUNNING!

The buffalo dropped dead a few yards further.

I have photos of the young family by my first buffalo.

Had an absolutely fantastic hunt at Rosslyn Safaris.

Met an American gentleman with his wife there.

He had some health problems, and died in camp.

Rene was schooling her kids at home.

One day I asked Diana if she had ever ridden a camel?

She said no.

IU picked her up and put her on my shoulders and ran around with her.

At school the next day she announced "I have had a ride on a CAMEL!"

Rene told her to stop lying!

She said "I am not lying mom! I had a ride on Saeed!"

Now both Diana and Alan have their own kids, and a very long friendship was started.

The Vincents all come to visit us in April every year, and we hunt with them every year too.

Alan has a 4 year old son, and the kid absolutely loves shooting!

First thing he says to his parents in the morning "can we go to Uncle Saeed and shoot?"

Hessa has a Chipmunk 22 single shot, and he uses that one. Perfect size for him.

What a fantastic way to bring up a child!

quote:

Originally posted by Todd Williams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g04EtOyVeHY


That's what I thought!

quote:

Originally posted by Frostbit:

quote:

Originally posted by Todd Williams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g04EtOyVeHY


That's what I thought!

I thought that was going to be an instructional hunting video.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
I have no idea some of you making fun of George because he shot a cow!

I have shot lots and lots of buffalo cows, and I have nothing to regret!

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
I have no idea some of you making fun of George because he shot a cow!

I have shot lots and lots of buffalo cows, and I have nothing to regret!

quote:

Originally posted by Todd Williams:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
I have no idea some of you making fun of George because he shot a cow!

I have shot lots and lots of buffalo cows, and I have nothing to regret!

Saeed, go back and find his post on the matter.

George came on here and complained about not shooting something on every stalk and that he finally had enough and just decided to get the job done and "bring meat back to camp" on his own.

Trouble is, he was hunting buffalo bulls and there was no buffalo cow on quota. He posted the video of it all.

They were watching a herd of buffalo cross an open area (an area I shot a wart hog out of on a later safari). The PH told him to wait, wait, as the bull was covered by other animals.

George got tired of waiting and just shot a cow out of spite.

This created a major issue for the outfitter with Parks. The outfitter paid George's fine for him.

Then George comes here on AR and crapped on the outfitter.

Culminating with the outfitter announcing here on AR that George is now in a client group of 1. That being the group of clients they will never accept as a repeat client.

Notice earlier in the thread where I asked what part of the above story George denies? The video very accurately reflects George's denials of the events. Crickets and wind.

What's the old saying? People get what they deserve!! George gets it.

quote:

Originally posted by Poyntman:

quote:

Originally posted by Todd Williams:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
I have no idea some of you making fun of George because he shot a cow!

I have shot lots and lots of buffalo cows, and I have nothing to regret!

Saeed, go back and find his post on the matter.

George came on here and complained about not shooting something on every stalk and that he finally had enough and just decided to get the job done and "bring meat back to camp" on his own.

Trouble is, he was hunting buffalo bulls and there was no buffalo cow on quota. He posted the video of it all.

They were watching a herd of buffalo cross an open area (an area I shot a wart hog out of on a later safari). The PH told him to wait, wait, as the bull was covered by other animals.

George got tired of waiting and just shot a cow out of spite.

This created a major issue for the outfitter with Parks. The outfitter paid George's fine for him.

Then George comes here on AR and crapped on the outfitter.

Culminating with the outfitter announcing here on AR that George is now in a client group of 1. That being the group of clients they will never accept as a repeat client.

Notice earlier in the thread where I asked what part of the above story George denies? The video very accurately reflects George's denials of the events. Crickets and wind.

What's the old saying? People get what they deserve!! George gets it.

I remember the whole mess...the video of it and all...
For some reason, my recollection was he misidentified the cow (was shooting open sights too) and I remember the PH telling him not to shoot and being upset...I didn't remember (or I think I didn't realize at the time) he may have intentionally shot the cow.. I just thought it was a big screw up

quote:

Originally posted by bobmn:
Originally posted by Bud Meadows:
I would think that Martin Pieters would be a strong contender.
Pieters is not a contender he is the front runner for a last choice PH. My buffalo hunt with him was a complete disaster. Not only did I not see a bull to shoot the entire hunt but he refused to refund my trophy fee. On the way out of Omay the PH said that Pieters would meet us in Bulawayo but then he never showed. After reading of another hunt disaster of Pieters on African Hunter it was astoundingly similar to the train wreck I experienced.

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:

quote:

Originally posted by bobmn:
Originally posted by Bud Meadows:
I would think that Martin Pieters would be a strong contender.
Pieters is not a contender he is the front runner for a last choice PH. My buffalo hunt with him was a complete disaster. Not only did I not see a bull to shoot the entire hunt but he refused to refund my trophy fee. On the way out of Omay the PH said that Pieters would meet us in Bulawayo but then he never showed. After reading of another hunt disaster of Pieters on African Hunter it was astoundingly similar to the train wreck I experienced.

Mate I would have made a big stink about that. Who on earth charges for animals you have not taken?

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:
Once had a PH ask me to have a look at a Leopard set up as he had no idea why the big cat would not feed.

Having examined the ground I told him Hyena don't climb trees.

quote:

Originally posted by RobinOLocksley:

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:
Once had a PH ask me to have a look at a Leopard set up as he had no idea why the big cat would not feed.

Having examined the ground I told him Hyena don't climb trees.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by RobinOLocksley:

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:
Once had a PH ask me to have a look at a Leopard set up as he had no idea why the big cat would not feed.

Having examined the ground I told him Hyena don't climb trees.

Years ago I had a Greek girl friend.

She asked to get her a "tigger skin".

I gave her a hyena skin, and she happily telling everyone its a "tigger" skin!

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
When I look back at how my first hunt to Africa was planned, I keep wondering how it actually worked out so well.

I ticked all the wrong boxes.

I was in Seattle, Washington, visiting Boeing.

I was going to Houston in a couple of months time to do a commercial pilot training course.

I read a hunting magazine, and in it was an adverts for the Klinebergers, offering hunts in Africa.

I thought I might enjoy facing what Capstick so scared off, the buffalo.

I went to see them, and met a gentleman and his son. You can say they were both gentlemen without any reservations.

They answered all my questions, and went out of their way to help a new hunter.

I said I wented to go right now!!

He said he had an opening for a 21 day all bag hunt in Zimbabwe - I have never even heard of that country before.

I had no rifles, and I was going to fly back to England to pick up my girl friend, then to Zimbabwe.

No problems.

They took me to a gunshop, I bought 2 second hand rifles.

A Remington Safari 375 H&H and a Ruger 77 25-06.

I asked how do I get the rifles to Zimbabwe.

No problem.

They organized that and the rifles were waiting for me at the airport at Vic Falls!

Arrived in the morning in Zim, got picked at the airport by Roy Vincent.

He asked what animals I was after.

I told him "everything I can shoot"

Had lunch, and went out in the after noon and shot a waterbuck.

A few days later we found an elephant.

Got close to him, and I was working in my mind how I would shoot.

Pull the trigger, reload, pull the trigger, reload, pull the trigger.

Imagine my total shock when the elephant dropped down stone dead as I fired.

A few days later we went to the Deka safari area.

The cam was at a waterhole.

Went out in the afternoon and followed some buffalo.

Caught up with them just before sun down at the waterhole by the camp!!??

Rene, and her two young kids, Alan and Diana were watching the buffalo have a drink.

They had no idea we were across the river watching the buffalo.

The Remington takes 2 in the magazine, and one in the chamber.

I somehow managed to squeeze a third one in the magazine, and chambered a fourth round.

I fired at the buffalo, the magazine bottom opened, all the cartridges fell out, I started running at break neck speed after the buffalo, loading a round by hand.

Roy was screaming STOP RUNNING!

The buffalo dropped dead a few yards further.

I have photos of the young family by my first buffalo.

Had an absolutely fantastic hunt at Rosslyn Safaris.

Met an American gentleman with his wife there.

He had some health problems, and died in camp.

Rene was schooling her kids at home.

One day I asked Diana if she had ever ridden a camel?

She said no.

IU picked her up and put her on my shoulders and ran around with her.

At school the next day she announced "I have had a ride on a CAMEL!"

Rene told her to stop lying!

She said "I am not lying mom! I had a ride on Saeed!"

Now both Diana and Alan have their own kids, and a very long friendship was started.

The Vincents all come to visit us in April every year, and we hunt with them every year too.

Alan has a 4 year old son, and the kid absolutely loves shooting!

First thing he says to his parents in the morning "can we go to Uncle Saeed and shoot?"

Hessa has a Chipmunk 22 single shot, and he uses that one. Perfect size for him.

What a fantastic way to bring up a child!

quote:

Originally posted by Todd Williams:

quote:

Originally posted by Poyntman:

quote:

Originally posted by Todd Williams:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
I have no idea some of you making fun of George because he shot a cow!

I have shot lots and lots of buffalo cows, and I have nothing to regret!

Saeed, go back and find his post on the matter.

George came on here and complained about not shooting something on every stalk and that he finally had enough and just decided to get the job done and "bring meat back to camp" on his own.

Trouble is, he was hunting buffalo bulls and there was no buffalo cow on quota. He posted the video of it all.

They were watching a herd of buffalo cross an open area (an area I shot a wart hog out of on a later safari). The PH told him to wait, wait, as the bull was covered by other animals.

George got tired of waiting and just shot a cow out of spite.

This created a major issue for the outfitter with Parks. The outfitter paid George's fine for him.

Then George comes here on AR and crapped on the outfitter.

Culminating with the outfitter announcing here on AR that George is now in a client group of 1. That being the group of clients they will never accept as a repeat client.

Notice earlier in the thread where I asked what part of the above story George denies? The video very accurately reflects George's denials of the events. Crickets and wind.

What's the old saying? People get what they deserve!! George gets it.

I remember the whole mess...the video of it and all...
For some reason, my recollection was he misidentified the cow (was shooting open sights too) and I remember the PH telling him not to shoot and being upset...I didn't remember (or I think I didn't realize at the time) he may have intentionally shot the cow.. I just thought it was a big screw up

If George thinks I'm misrepresenting the facts, he's free to dispute them. In fact, he's been challenged to do so several times now. Yet, the crickets are still chirping and the wind is still blowing.