So for the SCI.
We will have the new Bow Case.
Engraved name plates.
New full ball bearing in line type skate wheel.
TSA approved type locking device.
This announcement came from the factory to me today.
The new lock and new wheels will be available on new purchase cases only and not a retrofit of anykind. For instance you can not buy just a lid with the TSA lock or new wheels and put them on your old case (will not fit anyway).
So...the price of the case with the new lock has yet to be announced but please remember I told you a month of so ago that there will be a price increase.
You will still be able to get the case with the vending machine key lock too.
I have laid in plenty of cases at the old price so as to have inventory for you and for Santa.
Looking forward to seeing everyone in Dallas at booth 229 (usual corner booth) and in Reno at booths 103 thru 105.
Oh...let me add the "500 Grains" disclaimer in this post so that stuff won't start up again.
"If you buy a Tuffpak your gun will be damaged"

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Originally posted by Harry:

"If you buy a Tuffpak your gun will be damaged"

Harry,

You might find this thread interesting:

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/760101804/m/701100185

It is regarding NE450No2 who had his double rifle stock broken in a Tuffpak recently. I doubt he is dancing like the little "emoticon" I quoted from your post.

Mims,



Perry

harry,

Is tuffpak going to come out with a retrofit lid for past/current owners of their case????

I know I would be interested in coverting my tuffpak into the new TSA lock unit.
thanks

I have no interest in converting my Tuffpak to a TSA approved lock. No one should have a key except for me!

John

But ErikD, NE450NO2 goes on to say that he doesn't blame the toughpack. I've travelled with mine more times than I can count and it's the best case I've had.

As long as you pack things safely, it's great. I would imagine that there are reports of damaged firearms in every firearm case made. Nothings perfect.

How's the weather over there?

quote:

Originally posted by 404Rodda:
But ErikD, NE450NO2 goes on to say that he doesn't blame the toughpack. I've travelled with mine more times than I can count and it's the best case I've had.

As long as you pack things safely, it's great. I would imagine that there are reports of damaged firearms in every firearm case made. Nothings perfect.

How's the weather over there?

404Rodda,

As I have pointed out to Mims in a PM, I was simply making him aware of a thread on another forum where Tuffpak was involved in a broken stock. Both he and I are aware that Tony does not blame his Tuffpak, but the damage was done nevertheless.

But since you mention other cases, I must admit that I have never heard of a gun that was damaged inside a Pelicase with properly cut out foam. Despite a chip or two being cut or knocked off the cases exterior.

As for the weather over here, it sucks, and I have no doubt that it is far more comfortable in Texas at the moment!

quote:

Originally posted by ErikD:

But since you mention other cases, I must admit that I have never heard of a gun that was damaged inside a Pelicase with properly cut out foam. Despite a chip or two being cut or knocked off the cases exterior.

Here is a current thread on a Pelican case in which the gun was damaged Pelican Thread.

There is no magic case. A gun can be damaged in any of them.

I had a stock broken in a Browning Travel Vault in 2001. So far so good with the Tuffpak. I just insure the rifle and don not worry too much.

quote:

Originally posted by 404Rodda:
But ErikD, NE450NO2 goes on to say that he doesn't blame the toughpack.

Yeah, but he also says he will never travel with a gun that is not broken down in a tuffpak. Since most of us have bolt guns that are not takedowns, guess what that means?

quote:

Originally posted by Lhook7:

Here is a current thread on a Pelican case in which the gun was damaged Pelican Thread.

It seems the fellow used it wrong. He took out the foam! Kinda like travelling with the guns in a tuffpak, isn't it?

quote:

Originally posted by Harry:

TSA approved type locking device.

Harry, in the past you told us that we were all wrong to be concerned about the non-TSA cylinder lock.

Now Tuffpak introduces a TSA lock.

So who was wrong, you or Tuffpak/Nalpak?

quote:

Originally posted by ErikD:

quote:

Originally posted by Harry:

"If you buy a Tuffpak your gun will be damaged"

Harry,

You might find this thread interesting:

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/760101804/m/701100185

It is regarding NE450No2 who had his double rifle stock broken in a Tuffpak recently. I doubt he is dancing like the little "emoticon" I quoted from your post.

Erik,

I am surprised at you. The TuffPak was the first well thoughtout gun case, and a major step up from the hard-sided golf case.

Making a connection between Tony's busted stock (those fancy pieces of wood are expensive all around) and a TuffPak is quite impossible, except for maybe Al Gore.

quote:

Originally posted by Lhook7:

quote:

Originally posted by ErikD:

But since you mention other cases, I must admit that I have never heard of a gun that was damaged inside a Pelicase with properly cut out foam. Despite a chip or two being cut or knocked off the cases exterior.

Here is a current thread on a Pelican case in which the gun was damaged Pelican Thread.

There is no magic case. A gun can be damaged in any of them.

LHook7,

The guy who had his rifle damaged in that thread clearly states that the middle layer of foam was removed, and that one gun was in a soft/slip case, while the other was loose without even a softcase. This is not how a Pelicase is designed to be used, and it doesn't matter that the owner believes the softcase made the guns "tight" enough to not move around.

I clearly wrote in my post: "with properly cut out foam".

Cancuk posted a picture of exactly the way a Pelicase is meant to be used. With the center foam cut out to fit the rifle:

(Forgive me for borrowing your picture Chris!)

So I will state again that I have never heard of a gun damaged in a Pelicase when using correctly cut out foam.

quote:

Originally posted by Will:

quote:

Originally posted by ErikD:

quote:

Originally posted by Harry:

"If you buy a Tuffpak your gun will be damaged"

Harry,

You might find this thread interesting:

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/760101804/m/701100185

It is regarding NE450No2 who had his double rifle stock broken in a Tuffpak recently. I doubt he is dancing like the little "emoticon" I quoted from your post.

Erik,

I am surprised at you. The TuffPak was the first well thoughtout gun case, and a major step up from the hard-sided golf case.

Making a connection between Tony's busted stock (those fancy pieces of wood are expensive all around) and a TuffPak is quite impossible, except for maybe Al Gore.

Bill,

It looks like mrlexma and several others have seen that such a connection is quite possible.

Even with the Pelican case,I think if you put two rifles in there you are looking for trouble.There will be almost no foam between the scope and the plastic wall.If you want the protection of which you paid money for,then limit to 1 scoped rifle per 1750 case.

My apologies ErikD; I misunderstood what you were saying. I agree that if a gun is not packed properly in a case it is much more likely to be broken.

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:
Even with the Pelican case,I think if you put two rifles in there you are looking for trouble.There will be almost no foam between the scope and the plastic wall.If you want the protection of which you paid money for,then limit to 1 scoped rifle per 1750 case.

Don't tell my rifles. They have been to Africa and back that way a couple times without any problems whatsoever.

Canuck

You take two guns. They are each in a well-padded soft gun case. You put them in the TuffPak surrounded by clothes. The guns get there in fine shape in spite of the grossly rough handling by airline monkies.

Who gives a crap whether the lock is TSA approved?

And who says you can't break down a bolt action rifle? You take two screws out and Wow it is a two-piecer! You screw it back together upon arrival. Big deal.

quote:

Originally posted by Will:

And who says you can't break down a bolt action rifle? You take two screws out and Wow it is a two-piecer! You screw it back together upon arrival. Big deal.

quote:

And who says you can't break down a bolt action rifle? You take two screws out and Wow it is a two-piecer! You screw it back together upon arrival. Big deal.

canuck,maybe the airline people like you,but there could be a employ strike at the time of your travel and there mood could change.

What does this post have to do with African hunting?

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
What does this post have to do with African hunting?

we want to know which cases will keep our rifles safe when we go to Africa! Az,What does AZ stand for and which books have you written?

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
What does this post have to do with African hunting?

we want to know which cases will keep our rifles safe when we go to Africa! Az,What does AZ stand for and which books have you written?

AZ stands for ARIZONA, and I believe AZwriter writes an outdoor column for a news paper in Arizona!
The AnotherAZWriter is a new one on me, and I have no idea what he writes! Maybe posts on AR!

quote:

Originally posted by Jarrod:

quote:

Originally posted by Will:

And who says you can't break down a bolt action rifle? You take two screws out and Wow it is a two-piecer! You screw it back together upon arrival. Big deal.

Jarrod -- pleez explain yourself on this -- are you trying to say that one cannot make a bolt action rifle into a takedown??- eh??

quote:

Originally posted by Will:


And who says you can't break down a bolt action rifle? You take two screws out and Wow it is a two-piecer! You screw it back together upon arrival. Big deal.

With the trigger hanging off in space while it rattles around in a plastic tube?

quote:

Originally posted by Woodmnctry:

quote:

Originally posted by Jarrod:

quote:

Originally posted by Will:

And who says you can't break down a bolt action rifle? You take two screws out and Wow it is a two-piecer! You screw it back together upon arrival. Big deal.

Jarrod -- pleez explain yourself on this -- are you trying to say that one cannot make a bolt action rifle into a takedown??- eh??

Woodmnctry,
I am agreeing with him and I think it is funny all at the same time.
You always hear everyone say take down this and take down that. It is just like he said you take out 2 screws from a bolt action and WALA you have a take down.

Why should you take down anything?

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:
Why should you take down anything?

That is a proposed solution to guns suffering damage inside a tuffpak when not broken down.

In the old days before all the fancy gun cases I once took a rifle in one of the old plastic cases with the aluminum strip around the edge of the upper and lower halves. When I retrieved the case in Joburg the barrel of the rifle was protruding from the two halves of the case about 8 inches!

Talk about rough handling.

TuffPak's are better than that! We are so spoiled today!

quote:

Originally posted by shootaway:

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
What does this post have to do with African hunting?

we want to know which cases will keep our rifles safe when we go to Africa! Az,What does AZ stand for and which books have you written?

Then Harry should post his ads in the travel section. Why not just make this whole thing a site for anyone to post their wares in the guise of African hunting? The case itself has NOTHING to do with African hunting.

AZ does stand for Arizona. I have not written any books, just magazine articles in various pubs including Hunting, Sporting Classics, Varmint Hunter, Predator Extreme, Cabela's Outfitter Journal, and some others. Writing is a great hobby, but I sure wouldn't want to do it for a living.

Jarrod -- now I understand -- thought you were of a differing opinion
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