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Originally posted by adrook:
Mike,

I have hunted DG. Fact remains, criticize CB, PHC, etc and you are an asshole. Criticize MS and it is okay.

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You find tolerance disturbing? I find free exchange of ideas, even when they conflict with mine, to be a good thing. Silencing those we find disturbing means passing up an opportunity to challenge them on the merits. The refusal to tolerate those who express an unpleasant view is a hallmark of political correctness that I find very disturbing. Someday we may all be in the unpopular minority. Shall we be sent off as well?

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Originally posted by sharpsguy:
adrook--As I see it, you are having difficulty dealing with one of the facts of life. That fact is this: WE DON'T GET TO PICK OUR OWN PARENTS. You didn't get to pick yours, I didn't get to pick mine, Brittany Boddington did not pick hers, and Saeed did not get to pick his.

Sadly, your parents seem to have failed you in a lot of ways. Forcing you to subsistence hunt as a child seems to have damaged your psyche, and stripped you of the manners that most of us are taught as children. If not that, something certainly did, and your parents failed to instill basic decency in you. So blame your parents for your bitterness. In case you haven't been told by now, it is in extremely bad taste to attack ladies and children of people you envy.

I am greatful for the upbringing my parents gave me. I was taught to respect others as long as they are entitled to it, and to respect their property. I was taught to be both a gracious host and guest, among other things. I was not born wealthy, and am not to this day. I am, however, rich by almost any measure. I do what I want within my means, and have been able to hunt the Eastern Cape twice with a Sharps rifle. I have made great friends and have memories that are more valuable to me than gold and diamonds.

Brittany Boddington did not pick her parents either. Like it or not her dad was highly successful in his military career, and upon retirement, has created a second career that we envy, most without rancor. Brittany was and is involved in what has become a family business, and as a result was forced to make what was possibly a life and death decision in a split second. If I were in the same situation and being chewed on by a leopard, I would hope my hunting companions would shoot the cat, ESPECIALLY if it had me in his jaws. This young lady of 23 did just that, and no doubt got this moral fiber and resolve from the upbringing her parents gave her.

Which brings us to Saeed. He didn't pick his parents, either. But Saeed's parents taught him a lot of things, among them a work ethic, generosity, courage, and one of the same things my parents taught me--how to be a good guest and host.

Saeed owns this forum. It is his property, and we who come here are his guests just as much as if we were in his hunting camp or his home. I have to say that Saeed is a better, far more gracious host than I, for if you came into my home and attacked me or my other guests the same way you have attacked Saeed and other members of this forum, I would show you the door post haste.

The fact that you haven't been banned from AR is a testament to Saeed's patience and tolerance and showcases the teachings his parents gave him.

It's a pity yours didn't do nearly as well.

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
I know Saeed...

Are you going to make a special forum for Adrook's innapropriate threads and posts too??

....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982

Hands of Old Elmer Keith

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Originally posted by KPete:
Tolerance (or freedom of speech) does not exist in a vacuum, it is by necessity situationally dependent. Ultimately, as a society we must tolerate dissenting, if ugly opinion. That is the foundation of all the freedoms we enjoy. However, that does not oblige me to tolerate my young son using profane language; nor must I tolerate endless procedural debate in my office. And neither I, nor most others on this board, would tolerate a guest in their home espousing racist views. The fact that I enjoy the freedom to foreclose on offending speech in my home, for example, is no less a right than the speech itself.

You seem to be confusing the concept of 'societal tolerance' with the tolerance demonstrated in the sanctuary of the home, office, or private meeting place. This board is not public property. We are guests of Saeed and are therefore subject to rules and decorum of his choosing. Should he decide that race-baiting and bigotry are offensive and inappropriate behavior on his board, that isn't reflective of either his support for free speech or his tolerance for differing views. In this case, it would simply reflect on his good taste.

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Originally posted by DuggaBoye:
Well other than Mr. Sullivan making a pass at my wife within minutes of our meeting him and his generally arrogant behaviour, I found him somewhat entertaining.

We did not book the hunt with him ,so I cannot respond to his hunting ability other by viewing film and verbal responses from those that did.

That having been said ,and, having met Boddington on several occassions I have found him neither arrogant nor a lothario.

Aside from my personal differences;an evaluation of Boddington revals as a matter of record,that he has hunted widely and exposed his hunting to the scrutiny of both the public and other well known professionals for decades.Likewise he is commented upon and known by almost all major players in the industry.
Sullivan on the other hand is the largely the sole source of information on his exploits via his video company production and books.

While I realize this is the view of a only one person , I gather it is generally reflective of individuals who have met both men in question.

As to Brittany's situation, I have not seen the video nor discussed it with anyone near the incident, I therefore withhold comment at this point.

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If MS ever met princess Britt he would make a pass at her. We all know the saying, if there's red on top, there's fire down below!

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Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:

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If MS ever met princess Britt he would make a pass at her. We all know the saying, if there's red on top, there's fire down below!

You've got to be kidding me right???? Are you serious???? Eurocentric are you challenging Adrook for the throan?

Brett

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Originally posted by larryshores:
You guys are wasting a hell of a lot of effort on this guy.

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You should read all the boards here before singling out one poster for your wrath. There is racism, homophobia, religous intolerance, and other bigotry aplenty here espoused at various times by a wide variety of members. Should all the posters who made obscene suggestions to Adrook be banned for violating the terms of service?

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Originally posted by LionHunter:
WHO IS ADROOK?

adrook likes the word hypocrisy. Perhaps an examination might be in order? He claims 40 years of hunting and that he has hunted dangerous game. Here are some observations from his own posting history:

He made his very first African safari in September 2008. That's 7 months ago. This is his total safari experience.

He took a Cape Buffalo and a Hippo that was in the water, using a .375H&H. Neither animal charged. This constitutes his African DG experience.

His photos show him to be a white male approximately late forties to early fifties of age who has skinny arms and a slight paunch. This would indicate his repeated claim of having hunted for 40 years would have begun at approximately age 10 years.

This, then, is the man who denigrates the performance of Brittany Boddington in attempting to sort out a charging Leopard by standing her ground and attempting to resolve the issue with her rifle within a 3-4 second period of time. A man who has never taken a charge and who has never hunted African cats.

I really don't care for adrook, never have, but the glaring lack of experience he possesses is truely quite amazing for someone with such emphatic claims of experience and expertise and the willingness to be so critical of others. Add to that his stated bias and prejudice of race, sexual orientation and nationality and we have a unique individual worthy of all the scorn he precipitates.

BTW, I'm pretty sure Brittany has taken more DG than adrook and I know she has done many more safari than he during her five years of hunting experience, but such things never phase the adrook expertise.

Just thought you all should know who adrook really is.WHO IS ADROOK?WHO IS ADROOK?

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Just thought you all should know who adrook really is.WHO IS ADROOK?WHO IS ADROOK?

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Just thought you all should know who adrook really is.

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
I feel neither the desire or need to go into specifics, but it is better in the future to start a comment with "I think, or I bet or I have a feeling " then to make a statement as you did in this case leading others to think you know more about a situation than the facts show you did.
Food for thought.

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Originally posted by LionHunter:
If you are unable to discern from my past posts that my experience and knowledge of Africa is based upon personal experience of many safari in various countries then I suggest you don't know Africa very well. Public records exist under my name to confirm anything I claim. As an honorable man I make no false claims; don't need to. And while there are some here with more African experience and expertise, I suggest that there is also distinct majority with less.

Best regards

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Originally posted by daniel77:
They probably pay much less than Adrook will have to pay for his next safari though.

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Originally posted by shakari:

I have a friend who calls that BST ........ which stands for Bastard Tax.

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Originally posted by Charles_Helm:

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Originally posted by shakari:

I have a friend who calls that BST ........ which stands for Bastard Tax.

In other lines of work, they speak of the "a-hole premium."

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Originally posted by LionHunter:
Charles,

I've simply re-stated facts posted by adrook himself. If you consider that throwing stones then so be it.

As to my use of a nome-de-plume, you are correct in that I have given the clear reason in the past, I believe in reply to a challenge by adrook himself. I stand by that decision.

If you are unable to discern from my past posts that my experience and knowledge of Africa is based upon personal experience of many safari in various countries then I suggest you don't know Africa very well. Public records exist under my name to confirm anything I claim. As an honorable man I make no false claims; don't need to. And while there are some here with more African experience and expertise, I suggest that there is also distinct majority with less.

Best regards

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Originally posted by shakari:
I think I can do no better than repeat my comment from the other, similar thread, which was:

Shouldn't this one be moved to the 'utter bollocks for fuckwits' forum?

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Timot
Everybody is entitled to their opinion,but when that opinion is incorrect, as your statement that "Boddingtons hunts are all freebies" you are not only guessing, you are incorrect. I can only speak to the African trips we do, but I write the checks out of the Safari Classics office and I know from whence I speak. I feel neither the desire or need to go into specifics, but it is better in the future to start a comment with "I think, or I bet or I have a feeling " then to make a statement as you did in this case leading others to think you know more about a situation than the facts show you did.
Food for thought.

....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982

Hands of Old Elmer Keith