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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . just some current information to consider for those attending DSC and planning to go unmasked (any incremental protection might be a good thing).

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . just some current information to consider for those attending DSC and planning to go unmasked (any incremental protection might be a good thing).

I am not a physician, just a person who strives to think clearly and find and analyze accurate information.

First, I would point out that the stats provided above show a survival rate of over 98.7% in the three counties cited, including in cases caused by the earlier and more fatal strains of the virus.

The tables and notes do not state that outright. They just report the number of cases, the number of deaths, infection rates and the death rate per 1,000 people, which at the reported 2.1-2.2 per thousand, does not make sense. I did the math to get the percentage of deaths as compared to the total number of cases as stated, and it comes to 1.285 per thousand.

In my view, this is another example of how US governmental authorities and the media typically over-emphasize transmissibility and infection numbers.

You have to work to get the facts on mortality/survivability, but if you do the work, you can find or develop them.

The US nationwide survival rate for people infected with COVID since the pandemic began is over 98.5%. And the Omicron strain is demonstrably far less fatal than the earlier ones. I won't get into the clearly established truth that the official death rates from COVID are amplified by misreporting. There is a difference between dying with COVID and dying of COVID that has all too often been ignored in the reporting.

But putting that aside, as I have said before, it is idiotic to shut down the world economy or impose general mandates based on such numbers. People at risk of dying from COVID-19 are those over 75 years of age, and those with co-morbidities or compromised immune systems. These people, and also people who come into regular contact with them, should be careful. In my view, they should be vaxxed to the max, although I would not force anyone to do so.

Others need not be more careful than to regularly wash their hands.

There are anomalous cases of deaths in people without known risk factors; however, it bears repeating that the most recent data published by the US CDC (57,190,371 cases; 827,879 deaths) demonstrate that more than 98.5% of those infected nationwide since the start of the pandemic - including those with the risk factors cited above - have survived.

The survival rate for those without risk factors is well above 99%.

In my personal circumstances, I will behave accordingly, which is to say that I have been triple vaxxed; I will wash my hands regularly; and I will begrudgingly wear a mask where I must.

YMMV.

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Originally posted by Texas Blue Devil:

A big reason that Omicron is less deadly because over 70% of the adult population is vaccinated and a significant amount of the population has already had one of the covid variants.

If you are older and not vaccinated, I don't think Omicron anything to play around with.

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Originally posted by eezridr:
Was there today. I would say about 2/3rd fill typical of a Thursday.

EZ

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Originally posted by Sid Post:
How is the show this year? Is it worth a long drive in the rain to get there for a 1/2 day?

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Originally posted by Sid Post:
How is the show this year? Is it worth a long drive in the rain to get there for a 1/2 day?

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Originally posted by BEGNO:
I’m here and haven’t seen any masks.
You won’t find me in a mask anytime.

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Originally posted by K Evans:
With a bunch of outfitters leaving tomorrow I suspect we will start hearing about those that tested positive for covid or couldn’t get test results in time. I set up covid testing for a couple of guys and there is so much covid in DFW that many sites were out of test kits, others were booking tests 4 or 5 days out and still others were saying 48 hours for results, but some of them would get results back in 8 hours for an expedite fee of $300-350. I think the airlines check the covid test forms a bit closer in the US than some other places so it might be harder to pass off a fake test form over here.
Going to be interesting to hear how many AR show visitors test positive in the next week or so.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
There is a place in Orlando and quite a few other cities (not Dallas) where there is a sliding scale fee to get results quickly. Thursday night , I paid $395 to get results in 30 minutes .

As large a city as Dallas is, I can not help but think something similar is available.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
There is a place in Orlando and quite a few other cities (not Dallas) where there is a sliding scale fee to get results quickly. Thursday night , I paid $395 to get results in 30 minutes .

As large a city as Dallas is, I can not help but think something similar is available.

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Originally posted by K Evans:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
There is a place in Orlando and quite a few other cities (not Dallas) where there is a sliding scale fee to get results quickly. Thursday night , I paid $395 to get results in 30 minutes .

As large a city as Dallas is, I can not help but think something similar is available.

Yep, there are several that promise fast results, all are expensive and those I contacted all said they had test kits. The fees quoted ranged from $225 near DFW to $350 near downtown/Love Field. Result time promises varied from 45 min to 8 hours (the 8 hour result was the most expensive and strangely enough was the closest to the convention center!).

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by K Evans:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
There is a place in Orlando and quite a few other cities (not Dallas) where there is a sliding scale fee to get results quickly. Thursday night , I paid $395 to get results in 30 minutes .

As large a city as Dallas is, I can not help but think something similar is available.

Yep, there are several that promise fast results, all are expensive and those I contacted all said they had test kits. The fees quoted ranged from $225 near DFW to $350 near downtown/Love Field. Result time promises varied from 45 min to 8 hours (the 8 hour result was the most expensive and strangely enough was the closest to the convention center!).

The bigger risk for overseas exhibitors visiting is what do you do when you test positive. May be asymptomatic or very mild symptoms like a cold.

Where do you do stay ?

My overseas fishing trip got cancelled - they imposed a 7day quarantine.

Mike

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Originally posted by Scott Powell:

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by K Evans:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
There is a place in Orlando and quite a few other cities (not Dallas) where there is a sliding scale fee to get results quickly. Thursday night , I paid $395 to get results in 30 minutes .

As large a city as Dallas is, I can not help but think something similar is available.

Yep, there are several that promise fast results, all are expensive and those I contacted all said they had test kits. The fees quoted ranged from $225 near DFW to $350 near downtown/Love Field. Result time promises varied from 45 min to 8 hours (the 8 hour result was the most expensive and strangely enough was the closest to the convention center!).

The bigger risk for overseas exhibitors visiting is what do you do when you test positive. May be asymptomatic or very mild symptoms like a cold.

Where do you do stay ?

My overseas fishing trip got cancelled - they imposed a 7day quarantine.

Mike

Once they make it to the US it should not be a problem right? We have no testing requirements within the states...

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by Scott Powell:

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by K Evans:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
There is a place in Orlando and quite a few other cities (not Dallas) where there is a sliding scale fee to get results quickly. Thursday night , I paid $395 to get results in 30 minutes .

As large a city as Dallas is, I can not help but think something similar is available.

Yep, there are several that promise fast results, all are expensive and those I contacted all said they had test kits. The fees quoted ranged from $225 near DFW to $350 near downtown/Love Field. Result time promises varied from 45 min to 8 hours (the 8 hour result was the most expensive and strangely enough was the closest to the convention center!).

The bigger risk for overseas exhibitors visiting is what do you do when you test positive. May be asymptomatic or very mild symptoms like a cold.

Where do you do stay ?

My overseas fishing trip got cancelled - they imposed a 7day quarantine.

Mike

Once they make it to the US it should not be a problem right? We have no testing requirements within the states...

Getting back home.

No covid test - you are not getting on a international flight.

Test positive - you are not getting on a plane.

Where do you stay in the us as a covid positive dsc exhibitor. Tough to hit up clients saying I am positive can I stay at your place 1-2 weeks.

Mike

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Originally posted by 470EDDY:
My travel agent advised me that a negative COVID test is required on all flights, including domestic... Hawaii is a real stickler... and if you are 10 minutes expired at departure time, you are off!!

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Originally posted by 470EDDY:
My travel agent advised me that a negative COVID test is required on all flights, including domestic... Hawaii is a real stickler... and if you are 10 minutes expired at departure time, you are off!!

Last night on the local Palm Springs news, they were showing waiting lines for testing of 4 to 6 hours... and many missing flights, compounding the confused schedules and weather/crew cancellations!!

We still have to test to go to Canada, and return, driving. They are timing to the minute on expirations at the border too!!

We are driving over to Las Vegas from Palm Springs... I will bet my RN/ARNP wife will also enforce masks at the Convention and Beinfeld Gunshow??!! 4 close friends, 2 being medical professionals are suffering bad symptoms requiring steroids,inhaler. and cough suppressants!! It ain'tover yet... but this current rage is building herd immunity!!

Hope to see you at SCI/Beinfeld!!

CheerZ,