Yes, a 100 pounder taken in Namibia again
in Nyae-Nyae Conservancy again
Kai-Uwe Denker the ph again
101 and 105 lbs

Congratulations to the hunter and Kai-Uwe

If you know all this, when can we expect the pics?

Photos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!details!!!!!!!!!!!!! info!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My God!!!! They still exist.......on both sides!!!!!!

Brett

excellent

PHOTO'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Allan Cilliers has taken a 91x81, a 80x75 and a 83x79 pound elephant this season.

This keeps up, that corner of Namibia is going to get a reputation!

Vaughn how about a picture please.

Mike

Who does Denker and Cillers hunt with, Safari company?


Mike

CONGRATULATIONS to Mr. Denker (again)

Mike,
Here is a link.



http://www.huntingreport.com/t...s_details.cfm?id=533

Mike,

Mr. Denker's link



http://www.huntingreport.com/t...s_details.cfm?id=280

Anyone know where Allan is hunting this year? I heard he lost his place on the Kwando.

Allan has always maintained a pretty good average, but he also says there are a lot bigger bulls out there, but most hunters either settle or aren't willing to work hard enough. Guess he's right.

Sounds like a grand bull,congratulations to all involved.

Well done to all involed how about some photos

Hello folks,

I have mailed Kai-Uwe for pics and permission to post and await his reply.

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Anyone know where Allan is hunting this year? I heard he lost his place on the Kwando.

Allan has hunted East Kavango the last two years and has 1 more year (2011) left. This is also an excellent area as tusk weights mentioned by McCray prove.

http://www.huntingreport.com/w...te.cfm?articleid=550


Link to photo and story.

I "would" have judged the ivory under a hundred pounds with confidence.

That's a 100lbs Bull??

As Denker tells us, "Thomas turned 45 during his safari, and we had a really great hunt. On the seventh hunting day we took up a huge track and eventually caught up with a very thick-tusked bull with a huge head. We circled and positioned ourselves in front of the oncoming elephant, which advanced to within 10 paces when he became aware of us and faced us with head held high and outstretched ears. Thomas brought him down with a frontal brain shot from his 10.75x68 double rifle. The tusks were officially weighed by MET game ranger Dries Alberts. The longer right tusk has a length of 1.96 meters (6.4 feet) and a circumference of 55 cm (21.7 inches) at the lip."

At nearly 22" in circumference, I would think it adds up pretty quickly.

I recall corrrectly, Ivan mentioned that a big Bots bull is about 18" at the lip, but he can speak to that directly.

That's what I mean about ivory and why I want to know the dimensions and weight of every tusk I see!

I agree that this one does not seem so big, at least not at first glance. Tricky, isn't it?

This bull's head is immense, which makes the tusks look smaller. There's a lot of room in that big head for huge, hidden tusks.

Plus you can tell by the deep indentations in his skull that he's very old, which generally indicates smaller nerves.

And look how his tusks carry their heavy mass nearly all the way out to their tips.

How did I do, Vaughan?

Very interesting. Thanks for posting this information, and these photos, Vaughan and Kathi.

What a beast.

Vaughn,

Thanks for the info.

Wow, could (and did) fool me. Congratualtions to the hunter nevertheless!

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The longer right tusk has a length of 1.96 meters (6.4 feet)

This bulls must be massive. The 6.4 feet put them into perspective.

Here is Zambezi Valley bull that weighed ~ 45 lbs. You can see they are ~ 4' & 5' long.


But they looked bigger in the ele on the hoof than those do in that pic.

That 55 in circumfrence makes a hell of a difference in weight. Consider that that guy in the picture is probably 44 in. chest.

Yes, the picture does NOT look like a 100# bull. I am guessing that the nerve inside the tusks were quite small and thin in order to allow for denser ivory and increase the weight. Also, compare the clients leg or the barrels of the DR to the length of the tusk outside the lip. The client has "skinny" legs so that doesn't help estimate the circumference however.

I never would have guessed this bull at 100#s and doubt anyone would, including a qualified PH. Most of the Eles length had to be inside.
I still suggest the ivory be dried and weighed on a certified accurate scale.

No comments on bullet placement? "10 paces with head held high"?? Very interesting. Not trying to spoil what is a great Ele bull, no matter the size/weight of the tusks, just curious about the claims.

Two lessons to take out of this;

1) Trust your PH...especially when his name is Kai-Uwe Denker
2) Length is important, but so is girth!


I all seriousness...I would not have guessed him over 80, but look at the thickness of those tusks. He would almost definitely have had small nerve cavities within the tusks as well, which helps.

Either way, a spectacular trophy!

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Originally posted by jstevens:
That 55 in circumfrence makes a hell of a difference in weight. Consider that that guy in the picture is probably 44 in. chest.

Thats 55cm, not 55in.

Wow, I'm really glad I don't judge ivory for a living!

One point to note there is virtually no taper to the tusks, that is big +! Congratulations to the hunter and Denker. It's no doubt a most amazing trophy.

Not being an expert, I happen to be reading Will's book right now about shot placement for frontal brain shots on elephant.

From the photo of this 100 pounder, and the statement that it was holding its head high, it seems to me that the shot placement was a bit high as shown by the blood in the photo.

Anyone care to comment? I'm going again in May and my only ele so far was a body shot.

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Originally posted by Indy:
Not being an expert, I happen to be reading Will's book right now about shot placement for frontal brain shots on elephant.

From the photo of this 100 pounder, and the statement that it was holding its head high, it seems to me that the shot placement was a bit high as shown by the blood in the photo.

Anyone care to comment? I'm going again in May and my only ele so far was a body shot.

My thoughts exactly, if the head was held high, then to me, the bullet entry hole appears high.

The again, the ele is dead.

Maybe that was not the only shot.

Denker was quoted as saying his client, "..made a frontal brain shot." This might indicate that it was not too high a shot. Maybe.

Yeah, doubt that the shot was at a downward angle.
The tusks look like they're 18" just 8 inches from the tip.

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Thomas brought him down with a frontal brain shot from his 10.75x68 double rifle.

This might be one of those multiple party shots. That blood is placed way too high for on the forehead for a successful brain shot unless the guy is 20 feet tall.

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As Denker tells us, "Thomas turned 45 during his safari, and we had a really great hunt. On the seventh hunting day we took up a huge track and eventually caught up with a very thick-tusked bull with a huge head. We circled and positioned ourselves in front of the oncoming elephant, which advanced to within 10 paces when he became aware of us and faced us with head held high and outstretched ears. Thomas brought him down with a frontal brain shot from his 10.75x68 double rifle.

Regardless of the size or weight of these tusks, you can tell this fellow must have had a wonderful hunt just by Denker's description of how it ended up. Anyone who's faced a big bull at this distance, in this manner, will never forget what it was like, whether his tusks were 100 pounds, or half that.

It certainly doesn't look to be in the same league as the one killed in Mozambique. It just goes to show how much thickness and density of ivory effect weight.

If I had to bet my last dollar on whether that elephant weighed 100 pounds, I would be broke.

We would both be broke.