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All one shot kills my ass, and not a decent wingshot amongst them, either.

The eldest dude plays the part of clown exceedingly well, I will give him that. What a horse's arse.


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I was a little surprised at all the problems this video caused. I agree there are some "rough spots" in the video, but you have to agree the Mountain Nyala, Desert Sheep, and elk hunt are outstanding shots and hunts.

Some of the video is a little over the top, but a nicer, more outstanding person as Mr. Knowlton could not be found.


I cannot say enough about his character, and hold the highest respect for him.

I realized after posting, the video was shocking
to some, that is why I removed the clip.


Please do not attack Mr. Knowlton on this website. If anyone is to blame it is me for posting the video.


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Thank you for sharing with us Kathi. Don't swet it!

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And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
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I saw the clip when it went up and again just now. I do not see anything seriously objectionable there. I might not dance like that but then I am not a great dancer ....and I am unlikely to ever shoot a lion.

That Sitatunga shot was awesome & so were the nyala, sheep, elk etc.

I thought those pigs were shot in Aussie! No problem blasting grunters from the ute.

Thanks to Kathi for posting this in the first place.


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I will probably not watch it. The Larry Knowlton I know is a fun loving guy who has been knocked down in life a couple of times and bounces right back up. He can afford to be slightly off the wall.

He is not my client he is my friend.


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All one shot kills my ass, and not a decent wingshot amongst them, either.

The eldest dude plays the part of clown exceedingly well, I will give him that. What a horse's arse.


Beg to differ. The Knowltons are exceptional freehand shots. As for the old man he is about as close to a horse's as your nose is to my bottom.


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I don't expect most Texans to be embarrassed by the behavior of these tasteless clowns.

That was a figure of speech. Not to be taken literally.

What I should have said is that all sentient members of the human race should be embarrassed by the behavior of these tasteless clowns.

More effective as a figure of speech, and truer besides.

I'm sure Mr. Knowlton is a fine fellow. But to behave like this after killing a game animal, and to kill for the sake of killing, takes bad taste to a new level.

But there is no accounting for taste.


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Fairgame,
I'm going to warn you, if I ever get the chance to hunt with you, I've been known to give insane hugs...after everyshot...sometimes more than one!!!!

I hope that will not warrant being excluded from your camp a 2nd time!!!! Cool

After listening to his personal story on the web, he seems like an awesome guy who made his own, and should be dancing after hunting some of those incredible animals. I look up to guys who risk it all in business and win!

More power to him and his family!!!!





 
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... all sentient members of the human race should be embarrassed by the behavior of these tasteless clowns.

... to behave like this after killing a game animal, and to kill for the sake of killing, takes bad taste to a new level.

But there is no accounting for taste.


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But to behave like this after killing a game animal, and to kill for the sake of killing, takes bad taste to a new level.

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I'd say 60% of the said video's footage was pulled from the DVD that our very own Aaron Nielson's DVD that he gave out for free here on AR a year or so back.

I enjoyed it when I watched it when Aaron sent it to me,and I enjoyed it again watching the redone video posted on Youtube. Larry has every reason, IMO, to be one happy man. The dude is livin' the dream! Good for him!
 
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All one shot kills my ass, and not a decent wingshot amongst them, either.

The eldest dude plays the part of clown exceedingly well, I will give him that. What a horse's arse.


Beg to differ. The Knowltons are exceptional freehand shots. As for the old man he is about as close to a horse's as your nose is to my bottom.


Exceptional shooting defined as three missed shots with a pumpgun at 10 feet from a speeding truck, and the three gutshots they cheered about, I assume?

The AC/DC track I can live with, I saw them at the Budokan in Tokyo for the Back in Black tour when I was 11. But then by about 20 years old I moved on.

The drunken hillbilly dance cum gymnasium tumbler routine around the lantern was an impressive feat for the old fellah, I'll give you that. Nice, classy touch with the baseball cap on the lion, too. True sign of respect for the quarry, that.

Oh, and yer arse and my nose? Sorry to disappoint mate, I don't do the whole bukakke thing. You know, it's bloody ironic, your AR handle and all the fair game chase rhetoric you've spewed since your recent joining, shitting on dog hunts for leopard, criticizing this and that blah blah blah, taking the moral high ground when judging others' hunts, then coming here and defending the asinine and embarrasing behavior of those donkey clients. I have more respect for the lowly rabbit and squirrel hunters who hunt for the love and tradition of it all, not the ego boosting tough guy bullshit of some troglodyte who kills game solely to be able to impress others.

Respect? You're full of shit, dude, and it's clear to me that you're here for the bidness, and that's it. You almost had me there. Thanks for showing your true colors.


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Oh, and yer arse and my nose? Sorry to disappoint mate, I don't do the whole bukakke thing.

I don't think that's bukakke sofa
 
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when it continues with a drive by spotligthing of pigs being outrun by the car and shot besides the car


Peter with all due respect I agree that's not the best foot forward without understanding, but you have to understand in Texas there's a WAR on hogs in some areas. They are hugely distructive and people are encouraged and allowed to kill them with more than normal legal means. It's not hunting it's irradication. Some people have professional services that hunt them with helicopters. Again this has nothing to do with hunting or sport. It's about getting a job done as efficiently and affectively as possible.

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Brett

i understand that and i have participated in a few culls myself here in europe, but that wont mean, that we should disrespect the animals none the less. and doing them as drive bys is one thing, another thing is filming it and bragging about it and turning it into some kind of highschool weekend special.

If we want our sport to survive in to the next hundred years, then this is really not the way to do this. making film clips and posting them that can even revolt fellow hunters, what will that do to non hunters ?

actually regarding culling we found that with swine, night-vision and silencers work the best which means more pork on the ground and no pesky neighbors screaming bloody murder, and it can still be done respectfully without dancing on the corpses.

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Peter,

I'm not disputing anything else. I'm just pointing out that wasn't sport hunting, but rather irradication.

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And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
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Some thoughts.....

I was watching a hunting show or two today and this tread got me to thinking about my own "post kill actions". I started thinking about what my actions have been in the past after taking an animal be it squirrel, deer, bear, fowl, imapala, or buffalo. Even in the presence of others I'm always rather reserved in outward emotion expressed even if I'm very excited. Handshakes...sure. Accepting congratulations...sure. I don't remember ever back slapping, jumping up and down, yelling and screaming, ect. The only exception to this rule I can think of is my first whitetail with a bow and arrow. I was by myself. I was so excited after shooting him I was literally shaking with energy! While in my tree stand I couldn't help, but yell out in triumph! Is that disrespectful? I don't really think so. Does the fact that I don't "celebrate" at the kill make me more respectful than someone who back slaps, sings, dances, ect? I still don't think so. I don't know about you guys, but I still get excited after the kill. Some people express that emotion differently. So what? I understand putting your best foot forward and all, but at some point we're people and we express our emotions how we may. I've seen pictures of Saeed and Walter putting stuff on a croc and no one had a problem with that, but Larry Knowlton putting a hat on a lion is over the line. ?????? Really?????? I understand that the video fails to suit all tastes. I'm just not sure "celebration" is as bad as people make it out to be. To each their own.

Brett

PS. I could see how having a camera present would accentuate celebration. Sort of playing up to the camera? Perhaps many of us would act differently in front of a camera?


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May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
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I'm not disputing anything else. I'm just pointing out that wasn't sport hunting, but rather irradication.

Brett


sorry brett, i just went into tirade mode there, so thanks for the clarification, i do understand that in some places in the states the swine are a big problem, as they are to my southern neighbours.

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A gentleman from another forum I frequent, The Alaskan Outdoors Form, has this in his signature line. I think it's most fitting for me as I frequently hunt and like to hunt alone. I'm not saying right or wrong. I'm saying this seems to work for me....and for this gentleman.

"There are so many subtle special moments on a solo hunt. A solo endevour is risky. At times it is lonely. At the same time it brings you back to the basics of why we hunt. You don't high five, there is no happy dance. There is a man and his responsiblity to the game. There is a strength summoned and a job perfomed. As men, intately, we should be practicing those skills. Our reputation and heritage as sportsmen depends on it."

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May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
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The video glorifies the kill shot. The use of a song that goes by the name "Shoot to Thrill" is in poor taste.

Having said all that, there's actually nothing wrong here! A helluva pile of shooting, of some exceptional animals.

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All one shot kills my ass, and not a decent wingshot amongst them, either.

The eldest dude plays the part of clown exceedingly well, I will give him that. What a horse's arse.


Beg to differ. The Knowltons are exceptional freehand shots. As for the old man he is about as close to a horse's as your nose is to my bottom.


Exceptional shooting defined as three missed shots with a pumpgun at 10 feet from a speeding truck, and the three gutshots they cheered about, I assume?

The AC/DC track I can live with, I saw them at the Budokan in Tokyo for the Back in Black tour when I was 11. But then by about 20 years old I moved on.

The drunken hillbilly dance cum gymnasium tumbler routine around the lantern was an impressive feat for the old fellah, I'll give you that. Nice, classy touch with the baseball cap on the lion, too. True sign of respect for the quarry, that.

Oh, and yer arse and my nose? Sorry to disappoint mate, I don't do the whole bukakke thing. You know, it's bloody ironic, your AR handle and all the fair game chase rhetoric you've spewed since your recent joining, shitting on dog hunts for leopard, criticizing this and that blah blah blah, taking the moral high ground when judging others' hunts, then coming here and defending the asinine and embarrasing behavior of those donkey clients. I have more respect for the lowly rabbit and squirrel hunters who hunt for the love and tradition of it all, not the ego boosting tough guy bullshit of some troglodyte who kills game solely to be able to impress others.

Respect? You're full of shit, dude, and it's clear to me that you're here for the bidness, and that's it. You almost had me there. Thanks for showing your true colors.



Respect is a word often misused and when you reduce a creature to blood, snot and broken bone it matters not that you put a leafy branch in it's mouth or indeed a hat on what is left of it's bloody head.

This is not a pissing match about morals either but more me defending the character of a couple of my mates.

The expression of my values and beliefs have not bought me many friends here and can hardly be described as good business practice?

What you are insinuating is that you have never done anything reckless or considered stupid by some? I am ashamed to say that I have but then again I am not holier than thou.


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I'd say 60% of the said video's footage was pulled from the DVD that our very own Aaron Nielson's DVD that he gave out for free here on AR a year or so back.

I enjoyed it when I watched it when Aaron sent it to me,and I enjoyed it again watching the redone video posted on Youtube. Larry has every reason, IMO, to be one happy man. The dude is livin' the dream! Good for him!



Ya, there's a couple clips from my GLOBAL HUNTER dvd, but 90% of it is video footage they have of other hunts, etc.

Fact is, the Knowlton's are certainly a breed of their own, there's no question about that. Frankly, I wouldn't put some of that stuff on video either, and NOT because it offends me necessarily, but because I know it might be offensive to others. Obviously being in the "business" of hunting, I try to be more selective as to what I would put out for public viewing, but I don't think Lary Knowlton is too concerned about that.

I do however find it quite possibly, way more tasteless to hear fellow hunters saying such derogatory remarks about other hunters. Sure, you personally may not like what you see, but as long as its legal, which it is, I fail to see the necessity for slanderous remarks??? Especially when you know nothing of the person, whom you speak about. I agree, it shouldn't have been put on Youtube, and trust me, when Corey gets home from South America, he will likely hear an ear full from me. But guys, name calling, and slanderous remarks, are simply not called for. If you like, I will gladly provide anyone, each of the Knowlton's personal phone numbers, and you can call them yourself, and let them know what you think. Then at least, if you are going to slander folks, you can say it to them personally.

I'm gonna give you a VERY quick outline of Lary Knowlton, and his charcter as I KNOW IT PERSONALLY. My father died 13 years ago, for the past 10 years, Lary has been like a father to me. A more humble, honest, genuine, and GENEROUS man, I have NEVER met in my life. In fact, no one has even come close. He built a billion dollar oil company from ground zero, after quitting a job selling coffins!! In 2008 for example, he spent just a bit over $1.5 million sending his EMPLOYEES on hunting adventures around the world!!!! That's right, $1.5 million dollars on his EMPLOYEES. I know for a fact this is accurate, because I booked all the hunts!! In the same year, I was sitting with 9 lions to my credit. Lary knew of my life-long desire to shoot 10 lions. In August of 2008 he had me book a $50,000 lion hunt to Tanzania for one of his guys, which I did. Once the hunt was booked and TOTALLY paid for, he called me up and said, Aaron just wanted to give you and early Christmas present from Lary-claus, Merry Christmas, that lion hunt you just booked was actually for you, GOOD LUCK!!! Time and time again, I ask Lary why he does all the things he does for people, and he always says the same thing. "Aaron, I get great enjoyment out of enriching others lives, the same way I have been blessed and enriched in my own". The examples above, are just a small sample of the things I see him doing for others almost daily.

So ya, he's a bit obnoxious sometimes, and a bit over the top, hell sometimes he drives me crazy too. But a finer individual I have NEVER met in my life, EVER. So maybe I got a bit defensive here, and I apologize for offending anyone. But Lary's not only my friend, he's my family, and there's nothing in the world I wouldn't do for that man!


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Really Aaron? Here's a tip: no matter how much money this guy may have one cannot buy their way out of giving the appearance of boorish behavior. The only thing I've ever seen come close to this is the display put on by American fans at Brookline in 1999 during the Ryder Cup.

So, while he may be a nice fellow and happy to spread around his dollars on folks he doesn't have the first clue about personal PR. And the fact of the matter is if he wishes to display his prowess with a rifle on youtube or any other public forum then he ought to at least bear in mind the hunting community of which he is a part given the current state of affairs with the antis out there.

Rather than defend that which is indefensible, just go about your own business and collect your commissions from his hunts and leave the rest of us to our own opinions.
 
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aaron and andrew

i like that you stand up for your clients/friends, everybody should and that is cool.

but andrew:
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when you reduce a creature to blood, snot and broken bone it matters not that you put a leafy branch in it's mouth or indeed a hat on what is left of it's bloody head.


well yes, there is a very big difference, one is a tradition dating back before christ, the other one is either a overly enthustiace gesture of joy or a degerotory act turning the lion into a micky mouse creature.

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please show me where ?

i am sure Mr. Knowlton is a very nice person that does a lot of good, and i like a selfmade man as much as the next guy. that wont change the fact that the video in question does nobody any good, he will be dead and gone and i will proberly be as well when this flick will still be used as a case maker for anti-hunters all over the world, which might be enough of a reason that my kids wont be abel to hunt africa.

the phone number wont be valid by then, so who should they scream at ?

i am coming off hoiler than thou right now, and i dont like it one bit.

since long distance phone calls cost me an arm and a leg, you can give him this number +45 3252 7892 and tell him to call me if anything in my posts is goating him.

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In all honesty...I never even watched the clip. A lot of folks do things with more clamor than I. I was just jacking with Fairgame over his Texas generalization comment. So...most of my rhetoric was just aimed to have fun with Andrew. I think I hurt his feelings so I am trying to show him some remorse...even though he said I was a transvestite. rotflmo


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Really Aaron? Here's a tip: no matter how much money this guy may have one cannot buy their way out of giving the appearance of boorish behavior. The only thing I've ever seen come close to this is the display put on by American fans at Brookline in 1999 during the Ryder Cup.

So, while he may be a nice fellow and happy to spread around his dollars on folks he doesn't have the first clue about personal PR. And the fact of the matter is if he wishes to display his prowess with a rifle on youtube or any other public forum then he ought to at least bear in mind the hunting community of which he is a part given the current state of affairs with the antis out there.

Rather than defend that which is indefensible, just go about your own business and collect your commissions from his hunts and leave the rest of us to our own opinions.


Apparently you didn't read my post, as I too said it was not all that appropriate of a video. And I plan to tell Corey and Lary that its not appropriate to post something like that for the public to see. Fact is, I will see Lary on Thursday, and I will surely tell him what I think, to his face. So to claim I am defending the indefensible, is completely in-accurate. I said that I find it to be even more dis-tasteful when folks take cheap shots at others over the internet, folks they don't know in the slightest. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but I feel strongly that if you're gonna say something derogatory about others, you ought to at least say it to them personally. We fight way too much amongst ourselves as hunters, I just don't understand it!

And lastly, Lary's son Corey, now works with Bob Kern & The Hunting Consortium. I haven't made a dime from selling hunts for them for the past 16 months, so I have no biased here, just facts as I know them, and the people they really are.


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please show me where ?


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Peter - Are you and I reading the same thread? Look back at some of the posts, and you will see what I mean. Shameful in my opinion, but its just my opinion. Besides, why would the Knowlton's call you?? They aren't the ones on the internet complaining about others. In fact, I can GUARANTEE, you would never see them doing that.

I have said it several times, so I guess I will say it again. I too think posting the video on Youtube was not the right thing to do. BUT, I think some here could find a better way to take up the issue if they have a problem, rather than making silly, slanderous remarks, about fine folks, that they don't even know.

Those that say their antics are bad for "hunting", ya I see your point. But I also know Mr. Knowlton usually gives about $100,000 - $200,000 per year for conservation/hunting needs. So he is doing his part to help the cause as well.


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when you reduce a creature to blood, snot and broken bone it matters not that you put a leafy branch in it's mouth or indeed a hat on what is left of it's bloody head.


well yes, there is a very big difference, one is a tradition dating back before christ, the other one is either a overly enthustiace gesture of joy or a degerotory act turning the lion into a micky mouse creature.


Peterdk,

I am sorry mate and my post was not at all intended to trash your tradition, in fact it was not in the least bit directed to you at all?


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I hardly believe Knowlton and company could relate:

http://forums.nitroexpress.com...n=0&page=0#Post92215

that is a hunter paying proper respect. knowlton is a buffoon.
 
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when you reduce a creature to blood, snot and broken bone it matters not that you put a leafy branch in it's mouth or indeed a hat on what is left of it's bloody head.


well yes, there is a very big difference, one is a tradition dating back before christ, the other one is either a overly enthustiace gesture of joy or a degerotory act turning the lion into a micky mouse creature.


Peterdk,

I am sorry mate and my post was not at all intended to trash your tradition, in fact it was not in the least bit directed to you at all?


andrew no worries, i think i am getting a bit thin skinned at the moment, i better go back in the shop and get those doubel rifles regulated and maybe stop playing with the 600 for awhile Smiler

aaron i hear what you are saying but how ccould i tell them anything when i did'nt know who it were in the first place.

best to all

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I hardly believe Knowlton and company could relate:

http://forums.nitroexpress.com...n=0&page=0#Post92215

that is a hunter paying proper respect. knowlton is a buffoon.


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You will not attract much to that bait. The presentation is appalling.


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Aaron, slander is false and defamatory speech. It relates to the spoken word and it requires a false statement of fact.

Libel is the written version of slander. There can be no slander here, as this thread is in writing.

There are, however, many strongly worded, negative opinions concerning the behavior in question. Mine included.

That is not libel. Opinion is neither slander nor libel.

The Knowltons invited commentary by choosing to publish their behavior in an internet video. They are broadcasting it to the world.

They should not be surprised when their published behavior got them the attention they surely sought.

Neither should they be surprised that some of that attention is negative.

My opinion regarding some of their behavior, as expressed in this thread, has been harsh. I haven't been as harsh as others have been, but I haven't minced words.

That's the way I'm put together - and rest assured that I don't write anything that I wouldn't be willing to say face to face.

I hate to see hunting debased and game animals degraded. I also hate to see hunters feeding and reinforcing the anti-hunting prejudices that all of us have to fight.

Others have different opinions and have stated them.

That's the way it goes.


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fairgame,

what's appalling is that you can't see the point. I agree the presentation stinks but the point was an easy over the top example of a hunter and the notion of reverence which your man, Knowlton clearly doesn't know about.

Frankly, at times watching his video I didn't know if I was watching someone hunt something or whether he may have been at a football game.

R-E-V-E-R-E-N-C-E

A feeling or attitude of deep respect.

When did you all of a sudden become Knowlton's defender anyway? Because to do so merely gives the rest of us reason to assume you may be cut from the same cloth.
 
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Aaron, slander is false and defamatory speech. It relates to the spoken word and it requires a false statement of fact.

Libel is the written version of slander. There can be no slander here, as this thread is in writing.

There are, however, many strongly worded, negative opinions concerning the behavior in question. Mine included.

That is not libel. Opinion is neither slander nor libel.

The Knowltons invited commentary by choosing to publish their behavior in an internet video. They are broadcasting it to the world.

They should not be surprised when their published behavior got them the attention they surely sought.

Neither should they be surprised that some of that attention is negative.

My opinion regarding some of their behavior, as expressed in this thread, has been harsh. I haven't been as harsh as others have been, but I haven't minced words.

That's the way I'm put together - and rest assured that I don't write anything that I wouldn't be willing to say face to face.

I hate to see hunting debased and game animals degraded. I also hate to see hunters feeding and reinforcing the anti-hunting prejudices that all of us have to fight.

Others have different opinions and have stated them.

That's the way it goes.


Mike - We can call it whatever you like, sorry if my choice of words was not grammatically correct. I just thought many of the comments were in poor taste, regarding someone these guys don't know at all! And I too believe in saying what one has to say to someone else, to their face. I just haven't seen anyone here actually doing that??

I also find it ironic how often I hear the reference to offending the antis? People who don't give a damn what light hunting is put in, its all bad to them. Yet, the same folks have NO PROBLEM at all bad mouthing their own fellow hunters???

jsl3170 - I don't think anyone is cut from the same cloth as the Knowlton's, in fact, I am sure of it. And as I have said several times, I don't think anyone is defending the video, including myself or Fairgame. Funny though, the three of four of us on here that know the Knowlton's, unlike others who choose cast stones, regardless of the video have nothing but good things to say about them.

Unfortunately too often, others make foolish statements about things which they have no experience, at all. Sounds a lot like the anti-hunters don't ya think???


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I think the difference here Aaron, and this is the last I will comment on this thread is this: the majority of forum members who post here on AR appear by all measures to be sportsmen and gentlemen. Your man Knowlton is neither.
 
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even though he said I was a transvestite. rotflmo


Transgender not transvestite. Big difference! One wears the other team's clothes. One wears the other team's surgically manufacture parts. Wink

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I feel like a drove past a car wreck all covered in blood and didn't get to see the bodies. Could someone repost the link please.


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I think the difference here Aaron, and this is the last I will comment on this thread is this: the majority of forum members who post here on AR appear by all measures to be sportsmen and gentlemen. Your man Knowlton is neither.


Nameless Poster,

I think Aaron's words about sum it up as well as can be done, so I'll just repost them:

"I don't think anyone is defending the video, including myself or Fairgame. Funny though, the three of four of us on here that know the Knowlton's, unlike others who choose cast stones, regardless of the video have nothing but good things to say about them.

Unfortunately too often, others make foolish statements about things which they have no experience, at all. Sounds a lot like the anti-hunters don't ya think???"

...and I couldn't agree more. I know I don't have a problem nor would I imagine Aaron having a problem with people experssing their disaproval of the video. What he does have a problem with and I can assure you I do as well is people spouting off about the personal character of someone they don't even know. Do you personally know ANY of the Knowltons? Have you ever even seen or met them?

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May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
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May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
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Originally posted by jsl3170: the majority of forum members who post here on AR appear by all measures to be sportsmen and gentlemen. Your man Knowlton is neither.


Your speaking from personal experience with Mr. Knowlton of course, right??????


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Aaron,

When you see Lary please tell him Mark Hampton said hello. We were in college together. He couldn't dance any better back then than he did in the video but we still had a great time. He enjoyed life and was my friend, and still is today. Thank you in advance for sending my regards. Cheers--Mark Hampton
 
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I will probably not watch it. The Larry Knowlton I know is a fun loving guy who has been knocked down in life a couple of times and bounces right back up. He can afford to be slightly off the wall.

He is not my client he is my friend.


And you are doing exactly what I would do, sticking up for your Mates, I applaud you for that.

The video is by necessity heavily edited and when anything is taken out of context it can have a whole new meaning.

I did not find it (video) offensive at all, folks celebrate in different ways, they look like a fun bunch of guys to me, I'd hunt with them in a heart beat.

A hunting kill does not have to be followed by extended periods of meditation, soul searching, self assessment and homage to the hunting god Dianna. It's your beastie, you killed it, if you want to do a couple of back flips, run around naked or drag your scrotum over the camp fire coals, go for it.

I think some here need to lighten up. dancing
 
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