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If there is a competition I always want to win, I hate to lose. How ever I also do enjoy a good laugh. Here we go with a few serious entries to the competition; "900 Grains of Death" (the number of grains to be adjusted according to caliber if Mark is not using his 600NE in this movie) "A Double Dose of Death" (this one could perhaps be twisted a round a bit just for kicks  )"Bad Medicine. A Double Dose of Death" "Black Medicine. A Double Dose of Death" "African Woodo. A Double Dose of Death" "Buffalo Medicine. A Double Dose of Death" On an less serious note, how about; "Painkiller. A Double Dose of Death" "Euthanesia in the Long Grass" "A Fistful of Nitro Express" As I am Swedish I'd like to point out that I intend to stay neutral in this conflict... | |||
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Scenario 1 A PH hunts an animal that is very dangerous and prone to charge (elephant) with a very close and confrontational style. The dangerous animal is more prone to charge when someone is close. The PH is not looking for a charge, but knows that the closer they get the more likely they are to get charged. They get close and guess what?.....they get charged. Scenario 2 A PH hunts an animal that is very dangerous and prone to charge (dry land hippo) with a very close and confrontational style. The dangerous animal is more prone to charge when someone is close. The PH is looking for a charge. They get close and guess what?.....they get charged. You say potato I say....... Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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I think we can stop the search on this one!!! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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I like: Death Wispher Death Dance or my: Blitz Death | |||
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'Appointment with Syncerus Caffer' 'Dicing with Death' 'Yours Truly Scores Again' 'Lessons on DG Hunting the Proper Way' | |||
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I vote for Saeed's "HUNTING BUFFALO FOR DUMMYS! PAY ME AND I WILL SHOOT YOUR BUFFALO!" That title really hits the nail on the head. Hans | |||
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Best one yet!____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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This is one of the funniest forums. I laughed so hard that my wife came from another part of the house and asked what happened. Saeed: how about moving this discussion into the humor forum? Cheers! Hans | |||
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Well Children, Sounds like the boys (and girly boys) are wound up on Mr. Sullivan. I find him a wonderful man, a true gentleman, extremely amenable and seriously intelligent. I listen to the girly boys throwing their toys out of the pram cruising someone who admits he likes the trill of a charge and shoots well yet they love Mr. Carter who does exactly the same bloody thing. Whatever one has to say at least Mr. Sullivan has never shot anyone in the back claiming it was an accident!!!!!!!!!! We have each and every Video, DVD and Book Mr. Sullivan and Mr. Carter and Mr. Charlton have produced and find them remarkably alike with the exception being in the manner of presentation. How many men out there have hunted with Mr. Sullivan are critical of his methods. Just how many of you folks who have so many terrible things to say about Mr. Sullivan have ever hunted with him, met him or hunted Africa anywhere other than behind a fence in some park in South Africa? Have a GREAT day boys and girls and you too girly boys!  | |||
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I've met and talked with him. Maybe your judgment isn't as keen and perceptive as you think. Either way, he's all yours, enjoy your time together. | |||
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It wooks, you pick on people and if the girly boy suits you then bombs away. However I do find it amazind that you and others act like children to disparage someone that you do not even know nor have ever spent time with to ridicule him. The free and open exchange of ideas and opinions only seems to work when it is your opinion. Go fly a kite and chill out. Oh, are you a "girly boy", just asking?? Fly away! | |||
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Please GO TO HADES right now Mr. GOB. And while there, please feel "free and open," as you say, to exchange that idea back to where it belongs: UP YOURS, Mr. GOB. (Language edited to slightly more polite.) | |||
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Glen, Do you actually read the responses people engage you with or do you just fly off the handle for the sake of it? If you look back at my responses on this thread, and others, you'll see that even though I take exception with MS's method of not finishing off the wounded animal quickly, I am generally a supporter of his. I have most of his DVD's. There may be one or two that I don't have. I've stated that I enjoy watching him stop charges in close with a big gun. I've stated that everyone I've spoken to that hunted with him say only good things about him. So tell me again how that is "acting like a child to disparage someone that [I] do not even know nor have ever spent time with, (BTW are you sure about that one), to ridicule him"? It seems that the only one on this thread that is afraid of a free and open exchange of ideas and opinions is you. And I really don't get this fascination you have with "children" and especially "girly boys". Maybe you spent time in Thailand? But to answer your question, no, I'm not a "girly boy". Sorry to disappoint but you'll need to keep looking in order to indulge your Transvestite fantasies! | |||
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hey Glen, does the "katohey" ring a bell??? Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Mark says that he lets the animal (Buffalo) choose how it will die. So when the buffalo charges and winds up at Mark's feet, the Title could be, "Wrong Choice" | |||
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Gentlemen Mark Sullivan is a hot topic on the whole internet, not just on AR! Right here I will say it is certainly the right of everyone to express their own opinion! Nobody is denying that fact, but anyone can see there is a lot more evidence one way than the other. IMO that alone says volumes! Simply because a majority believes one way doesn’t necessarily make that opinion true, but in this case the abuses objected to are there on film for everyone to see, and freely admitted to by Mr. Sullivan. For every pro-MS post there are far more con posts, not to mention that he has already been ask to leave the two of top hunting organizations in the world today. That fact alone should justify some close scrutiny of the validity of his practices. That alone should tell any sane person there is something awry in Mr. Sullivan’s methods! The con opinions might be suspect if they were animal rights freaks from PeTA, but they are seemingly 100% hunters with the majority of the hunters being experienced African hunters on the con side including a large number of PHs. Every time something like this comes up the supporters of the questionable practice come up with “Well others do it as well!” , a statement that holds no water. Abhorrent activity is no less abhorrent simply because more than one person does it. The fact is, when a client hunter wounds a Cape buffalo, hippo elephant or lion, the proper drill is to advise the client hunter where to place HIS finishing shot to put the animal down for the count as soon as the animals is approached. Gentlemen there is NO way you can guarantee that an animal will NOT charge especially if already wounded in which case the PH is obligated to join in to protect all involved. That is what Ivan, and Buz both do, and their shots are justified. But there is certainly a way to guarantee that a charge WILL happen even when it could easily be avoided. This last scenario is what MS is all about. Mr. Sullivan fully admits he purposely causes a charge of the wounded animal by moving into the wounded animal’s fight space. This is not letting the animal decide anything, much less how he wants to die, because he doesn’t want to die any way. IMO, this hesitating finishing him off quickly, for nothing more that giving the PH an excuse to shoot the client’s animal, on film, which the delay not only adds to the animal’s suffering, but puts everyone in the hunting party in real unnecessary risk. It is one thing to facilitate an unnecessary charge when you are the only one put in danger, but this activity filmed by MS puts everyone in the party in peril for nothing more that his ego, and monetary gain IMO. Then when anyone objects to what I think is unethical activity we see the mental midgets resort to calling names. When a person has no defendable backing for his/her opinion on the subject at hand the only thing they know how to do is try to belittle anyone who disagrees by attempting to make them look small with insults like GIRLEY BOYS or insinuating that because they have not hunted with the person in question that they must not have hunted dangerous game at all and assumes they have only hunted behind high fence. This opinion is not valid. A defense that is not valid in a case where everyone is free to see the whole thing on film, and read and hear the admission from the so-called horse’s mouth. In my opinion, SCI owes Mr. Sullivan a private hearing, and to offer him a reason or reasons why he was ousted. That being said, I believe MS knows full well why he was ousted, but that does not negate SCI’s responsibility to lay out the charges even if only verbally. That or the name calling, however, changes nothing in my opinion of Sullivans conduct! .......................................................................  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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So if someone does not agree with your own convoluted way of hunting is denigrated by silly names? Just goes to show what sort of "man" you really are! | |||
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It would be interesting to know the areas/concessions in which MS is conducting his hunts. | |||
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He is the most loved PH of Mr. Sheni but Fulvio you should know it as a DAR Resident ;-) Nec Timor Nec Temeritas | |||
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Do you really think Mark Sullivan cares about the lies and BS some of the dust for brains on this thread say about him,answer NO.Mark has been at this for such a longtime and still going strong.People who REALLY know Mark know this is pure slander so lets move on and grow up.When you are the best(Mark Sullivan)some will say just about anything,pure jealousy.... | |||
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Good day, gents: I am amazed at how much mileage this forum gets just with the mention of Mark's name. It illustrates how people are drawn to him. He must be doing something right to get all this unsolicited attention. I would guess most PHs can only dream of such publicity. The "Open Letter" thread even more so. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Amazing! So those of us who do not think Mark Sullivan is nothing but a bullshit artist are called "girls" and have only "dust for brains". Call me whatever you like, as far as I am concerned, Mark Sullivan is the most unethical guide operating in Africa right now. Calling him a PH is an insult to the profession. | |||
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You(saeed) dont know Mark so you say things about him that are just not true,assumptions,BS, very sad.Case closed I dont need to say anymore. | |||
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That's an interesting take or twist...gave me a good laugh.... There are certainly a few who are drawn to self promoters no matter what tactics are employed. It seems many others may just be disgusted enough to vent... In my view, the sport of hunting is a noble undertaking that requires respect for the law, the animals we hunt, and how we go about it, etc...we all make mistakes but... | |||
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And Mark follows all of the nobel undertakings | |||
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That would be what the arguments, debate, etc is about... | |||
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Alot of the arguments are just assumptions,things that are said about Mark that are simply not true what so ever.I wouldnt be supporting someone knowing that these lies where true,believe me.Many and I mean many feel the sameway I do. | |||
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damn, i knew i should have studied Latin in high school instead of Spanish. after all, why would i ever need to speak Spanish in California.  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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I though this was a thread about naming a new DVD? | |||
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It was about the new DVD but when you have some throwing around lies and assumptions thats just pure slander,having no knowledge of the person is simply not right. | |||
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Got your answer..Saw him in a 2011 photo with a client and elephant...Game Frontiers of TZ. | |||
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Mac, Your posts are usually so informative, I treat them with great respect. This one, however, is out of bounds. Being honored by SCI is no great endorsement. Far from it. They have routinely accepted and even endorsed scoundrels and thieves, as long as the group's pockets are lined in the process. Egregious cases are routinely brought before their "ethics" committee, and I have yet to hear of one favorable outcome to the hunter. The latest is a client needs to pay SCI before they will even look at a case. So SCI endorsement, or lack thereof, is meaningless. Second, we have no firsthand knowledge of what happened when Mr. Sullivan was asked to leave. If past SCI behavior is any indication, I would believe it had to do with MONEY, rather than any perceived ethics violation. A few others, including Saeed, have gone on a public forum and accused MS of crimes and misdemeanors, without presenting a shred of evidence. Hearsay just does not count. I have not hunted with Mark, and have no intention of doing so. But I do grow tired of the self righteous mob. Best "You only gotta do one thing well to make it in this world" - J Joplin | |||
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Not much booking or hunting info on his site...mostly just advertisements for his videos. | |||
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So DSC has BANNED him for just lies? SCI has BANNED him for just lies? Certain concession holders in Tanzania have BANNED him from hunting on their is just LIES? It seems there is a lot of "lies" following only just one man. | |||
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His Methods seem to work though. Regardless of whether any of you like it or not he is still alive and well after facing more charges than most. That is all the endorsement I need. Marks way of handling close quarters charges has the highest success rate of any. Until someone can actually show some inkling of justification, outside of their own personal feelings, for him and his methods to be damned: I say put your money where your moth is and show us different | |||
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