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If there are any good folks in the States looking for hard working middle aged chap with impeccable credentials in Wildlife management, Construction and Mechanics then please let me know.

All those who have tentatively booked with me for this season should now seek opportunities elsewhere and any deposits received by Royal Kafue will shortly be reimbursed.


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You Chaps must be pulling out what hair is left. Mad

"Construction and Mechanics" = Maybe Aus mining?
 
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Damn. Frowner
 
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I have no words right now Andrew. After all you have done....
 
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Andrew

Im not in america but give me a call maybe i can help out andrew.

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Bloody Afs are as much use as a one legged man at an arse kicking party! Mad






 
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Damn, I'm so sorry Mate!


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What a bloody situation this is!

I just hope it does not start the ball rolling elsewhere!


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Im so sorry Andrew..

Did anyone have a clue about this a month ago? I knew about the problem with new allocations etc but from that to ban all hunting...
 
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What a bloody situation this is!

I just hope it does not start the ball rolling elsewhere!


My concern exactly.
 
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Crap news Andrew, very sorry to hear this.
 
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Andrew, sorry to hear this Frowner

There should have been a trial for stupidity like this!


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A real pity. Just remember, things are rarely as good as they seem at the time and by the same token they are rarely as bad as they seem at the time. Hopefully this situation can be rectified and you can get back to doing what you know and love. Wish there was something we could do from here.


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Just think what a disaster this is for the Zambian guys who are already at the conventions!

They'll have spent all that money for booth space, donations and marketing etc and now have nothing to show for it except a massive loss on their books!

The poor sods must feel absolutely gutted! Confused






 
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I am so sorry to hear this news Andrew.
 
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OH Crap Andrew,

So sorry for this news, I was hoping to hunt with you again this year. Let's pray they reconsider and come to their senses.

Good luck and my prayers are with you.


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Mass Stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Very sorry to hear this.
 
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We all agree that this is a terrible situation, but the important question to consider at this time is...

What can we, as hunters, do to counter-act this nonsense? Is there something that the hunting community can do to reverse this? Is hunting really so fragile that one minister can completely shut it down all on her own? Can nobody over-rule her?

The people who frequent AR generally are successful people who are problem solvers. Gentlemen, we have a major problem, so instead of feeling low about this, shouldn't we be putting our collective heads together and figuring out a solution to this mess?
 
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Our thoughts and prayers are with you. I can only imagine the anxiety that comes with a situation, lack of livelyhood, and lifetime of work stolen from you.

Unfortunately......We American sportsmen may be living in a coming environment like you are facing and just do not know it yet. This is Absolutely Ridiculous. But for YOU, it is REAL......and it is NOW. May God give you direction.
 
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It would seem that hunting may continue on fenced farms and I think two GMA's have extended leases therefore my thread could be construed as misleading. Especially for the fenced game farmers.

For the most free range safari hunting as we know it will cease.

The publicised ban on Lion and Leopard, the closure of concessions and the prevailing negative reaction from the international hunting fraternity will spell doom.


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Very Bad News indeed. DLS has a good point,My first thought is "Who Profits" from this decision? Sad to say but there has to be money/graft behind the minister's decision. Is it a matter of a bigger bribe to reverse the decision?


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What really pisses me off is that I have only just taken receipt of my new .500 double.

Wife reckons it will still be useful on snakes and the odd rabid dog?


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So, so damn sorry to hear this. A crying shame that such Ar*# hole idiots were ever allowed the light of day.
 
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I am always looking for a good hand. Do you want to come guide elk hunters in the rocky mountains in Montana? Sorry to hear about this as bad as our current government is right now i cant even imagine dealing with what is going on in your country. Good Luck hopefully some organizations with some pull can step in a help.
 
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Very sorry to see this come to pass Andrew.
 
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Very sorry to hear the news Andrew.

I sincerely hope that the concerned minister has a miraculous conviction of heart and change of mind.

We humble mortals can only hope & pray.


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What a bloody situation this is!

I just hope it does not start the ball rolling elsewhere!


My concern exactly.


yes Larry and Saeed we're few im pretty sure that had that in mind and if nothing is done it will come sooner even that we can imagine.

Andrew i hope it s a short decision and very soon you ll get back hunting in your country.

all the best.
 
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Our thoughts and hopes are with all of the hunting community in Zambia, Andrew. This is not the first time this has happened in Zambia unfortunately. My hopes are it will be resolved for 2014 and you can get on with your professional life...


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So sorry to hear the news Andrew!

If you're seriously looking for something in the US, send me a PM, might have a line for you.

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Very sorry to hear that very bad news. Mad

I saw but one of your paintings - a lion with all the essence of being a big lion oozing out at the onlooker. If you can draw the particular Minister responsible for this fiasco with "Asshole" oozing out - something like Brad's avatar - you may very well get a buyer! But that will not restore the effort that you put into your concessions! Shit! Mad

You have an invite for a guinea fowl hunt for last weekend in May 2013 with some fellows that you may know some of. Wink

Best of luck for your alternative plans. Big Grin


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Terrible news. Not a good way to start off the new year.
 
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I'm speechless!! PM sent.


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Very sorry your your loss, and the loss to the hunting community. The poachers win...
Too Damn bad for Zambia, and its wildlife...


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Andrew - sorry to hear this mate.

I feel for you and the other Zambians that have put big effort (financially and physically) into the wildlife industry.

Just hope the poachers don't see this as an opportunity!!!!

Cheers
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This is just terrible!!!! I sure hope they change their position.

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Andrew - sorry to hear this mate.

I feel for you and the other Zambians that have put big effort (financially and physically) into the wildlife industry.

Just hope the poachers don't see this as an opportunity!!!!

Cheers
Brent


Brent,

It is nothing compared to what you chaps have been through.

The tough bit was for the past three years I convinced a community that the model I worked was one that could be duplicated throughout Africa and one that would benefit wildlife. I changed a mindset.

Quicker than you can swipe a credit card this has been unstitched. I cannot afford to invest in exclusive photographic tourism as I do not have anything to offer and certainly nothing better than the rest of the crowd. Nor do I have the investment. Royal Kafue was built and maintained on hunting revenues, the whole concept was to produce a model that was not donor reliant. It was a functional business arrangement between a community and the private sector and one which exampled the importance of wildlife as a sustainable natural resource.

Whoever has motivated this action then they must be answerable to these communities and to the game. They must take over this responsibility.


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Andrew - sorry to hear this mate.

I feel for you and the other Zambians that have put big effort (financially and physically) into the wildlife industry.

Just hope the poachers don't see this as an opportunity!!!!

Cheers
Brent


Brent,

It is nothing compared to what you chaps have been through.

The tough bit was for the past three years I convinced a community that the model I worked was one that could be duplicated throughout Africa and one that would benefit wildlife. I changed a mindset.

Quicker than you can swipe a credit card this has been unstitched. I cannot afford to invest in exclusive photographic tourism as I do not have anything to offer and certainly nothing better than the rest of the crowd. Nor do I have the investment. Royal Kafue was built and maintained on hunting revenues, the whole concept was to produce a model that was not donor reliant. It was a functional business arrangement between a community and the private sector and one which exampled the importance of wildlife as a sustainable natural resource.

Whoever has motivated this action then they must be answerable to these communities and to the game. They must take over this responsibility.


The success of the safari's you hosted at Royal Kafue last year is a testament to viability of your partnership with the community.


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DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191
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Andrew - sorry to hear this mate.

I feel for you and the other Zambians that have put big effort (financially and physically) into the wildlife industry.

Just hope the poachers don't see this as an opportunity!!!!

Cheers
Brent


Brent,

It is nothing compared to what you chaps have been through.

The tough bit was for the past three years I convinced a community that the model I worked was one that could be duplicated throughout Africa and one that would benefit wildlife. I changed a mindset.

Quicker than you can swipe a credit card this has been unstitched. I cannot afford to invest in exclusive photographic tourism as I do not have anything to offer and certainly nothing better than the rest of the crowd. Nor do I have the investment. Royal Kafue was built and maintained on hunting revenues, the whole concept was to produce a model that was not donor reliant. It was a functional business arrangement between a community and the private sector and one which exampled the importance of wildlife as a sustainable natural resource.

Whoever has motivated this action then they must be answerable to these communities and to the game. They must take over this responsibility.


The success of the safari's you hosted at Royal Kafue last year is a testament to viability of your partnership with the community.


We hunted Lions mate.


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Andrew this is devastating news! After all the work and effort you have put into Royal Kafue I am very sorry to hear about this crazy ruling.
 
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