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So I opened and "read" the latest issue last night. This morning I received and email from a friend and I think he pretty well summed it up. "I received the new Safari Magazine from SCI. It has an article about jam(yes, the fruity spread), jewelry trends, and martinis(the drink, not the rifle). It was also thinner than most issues. What's next--safari chic kitchen appliances, removing wine stains from cammo, nifty wall tent decorations for under $1(Oops, it's SCI. Make that $1000)? I can see it now, the new SCI Martha Stewart Award, the SCI Cocktail Grand Slam(requiring at least seven drinks from five categories at the diamond level), and the most coveted award of all--the SCI Lifetime Canning Achievement Award("I've canned two hundred species from five continents!")............." I found exactly 0 articles that I wanted to read in the entire frigging magazine!!! I REALLY hope SCI recognizes the wheels have fallen off, the car is in flames, and is going over a cliff........we'll see.  Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | ||
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PS> This hoity toity lifestyle shit is exactly playing into the stereo type that SCI is a rich man's club. Never mind the fact that SAFARI magazine has almost NO hunting articles in it! I really am beside myself. WHAT ARE THEY THINKING!!! DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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I thought about using it to wipe my tail but the paper isn't Charmin. Seriously, I'm embarassed by this publication. PS: Have you noticed that they don't put a direct email address on their website? You have to submit a request through their website directly with no return email addy listed. Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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Brett, when I got mine I thought the same thing. What a joke of a magazine it has become. Thanks! Brian Clark Blue Skies Hunting Adventures www.blueskieshunting.com Email at: info@blueskieshunting.com African Cape Trophy Safaris www.africancapesafaris.com Email at: brian@africancapesafaris.com 1-402-689-2024 | |||
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Jeff and I talked about that yesterday when it showed up at the office. Into the trash it went. Greg Brownlee Neal and Brownlee, LLC Quality Worldwide Big Game Hunts Since 1975 918/299-3580 greg@NealAndBrownlee.com www.NealAndBrownlee.com Instagram: @NealAndBrownleeLLC Hunt reports: Botswana 2010 Alaska 2011 Bezoar Ibex, Turkey 2012 Mid Asian Ibex, Kyrgyzstan 2014 | |||
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I agree it was a total waste of paper and postage. You can borrow money, but you can't borrow time. Don't wait, go now. Savannah Safaris Namibia Otjitambi Trails & Safaris DRSS NRA SCI DSC TSRA TMPA | |||
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I had 2 articles returned to me from them recently. I have never sent them anything that they did not buy. I was told that these hunting stories just weren't what they were looking for anymore. I was sure to tell them what I thought of the new style of the magazine, and that everyone I knew felt the same... Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Total POS. I skimmed it walking up the driveway and it went in the trash can; didn't even make it in the door. | |||
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Welcome to the club, Brett. I dropped SCI and their motto (First for SCI) years ago. A couple of years before I ended my membership I requested they stop sending me literature, the magazine, and the newspaper. I put SCI in the same boat as the teacher's union--they are in it for themselves and screw the membership. That's why I go to Dallas. I hope many follow. Off to Australia this pm with the little six. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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The most shocking thing to me is that all of you are posting like this is something new??  | |||
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This is interesting. I serve on the board of the local SCI Chapter in Houston. Our representative who attended the recent national meeting reported that the new/incoming president was focused on how to expand the appeal of SCI, to be more inclusive . . . he did not want the organization to be viewed or become an organization just of safari hunters but a group that was inclusive of all hunters. This means breaking down perceptions. How can producing a magazine with articles about martinis, jewelry and the like do anything but reinforce a stereotype that SCI is elitist and not a group that welcomes and embraces hunters of all interests and all walks of life? Just seems completely inconsistent with the direction the new president . . . to the extent he has any say so over the direction . . . would like to take the group if you give his comments any veracity. Maybe they are trying to make the magazine so worthless and distasteful that it will be a non-event to eventually get rid of it altogether. I know that with the push to on-line resources and the like they would probably love not to incur the cost of publishing, printing and mailing it. Mike | |||
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i am still waiting for the usual SCI apologists to weigh in with the usual "first for hunters" bullshit.  can't wait to read the excuses for the inexcusable. do what cal and i( and a number of others) did years ago- cancel your membership in the good ole boys club. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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I sent a direct link to this post on to Steve Comus, Editor in Chief for Safari magazine, and told him that he ought to seriously consider the comments that have been made. We'll see what happens. | |||
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Who is the editor, Thurston Howell III??? IF SCI keeps up this elitist crap, they are going to be history. ______________________ Age and Treachery Will Always Overcome Youth and Skill | |||
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no, i think the editor is the Great Gatsby... Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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If they'd simply added the extemporaneous articles, I'd be happy...but they gutted the magazine and then added the yuppy lifestyle reading. Tell me about Dallas Safari Club's publication. | |||
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Definitely a thin issue, substantive and otherwise. I agree the focus on high end/luxury life style taste is a stereotype that is a turnoff to the hunting community at large. I would like to read well crafted hunting stories, like many posted here on the forum. I find them much more informative as well as substantive. I am all for articles that are tangential to SCI's Mission of hunting, conservation and education. Perhaps the martini and Gucci gun club element should have there own exclusive member access on SCI Website. Tim | |||
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. . . I have to say though that I am pretty excited about the next issue discussing the resurgent interest in smoking jackets and pipes. Mike | |||
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Call SCI and register your complaints. Bitching about it here won't accomplish anything. George  | |||
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I am disappointed with SCI and now with their rag. First for elitest metrosexual hunters, and only second or third for wildlife and wild places. News Flash: Next month SCI will cover, "How to present your "niece" or "nephew" to your hunting buddies at the convention."  | |||
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The 3 main SCI stalwarts have yet to surface. Their eventual comments (if any) will however provide interesting reading and heated debate from counter comments. | |||
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i did exactly that 3 years ago concerning the OoA Adventureous Safaris travesty and the so called ethics committee response. no one at headquarters had a meaningful response and all emails went unanswered. the powers that be at SCI are the 3 monkeys- see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.. and oh BTW, where is my next comped hunt? and should i take my martini shaker? my smoking jacket, my humidor? rather difficult questions, old chap. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Sort of an interesting comment coming from the moderator of an on-line blog. Mike | |||
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Latest issue - half non-hunting fluff, half ads. I've never ditched a magazine to the recycle bin faster | |||
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Oh boy, I have thought about it myself. I thought " What's this?" And don't get me started on their SCI show fees on top of their magazine nonsense. That's what happens when any organization gets too big and spread their web too thin. Still like the show, but everything else seems to point toward the few high ups. Not cool. That's what happened to Boone & Crocket Club. It became very rigid " Good Old boys Club ". Now SCI is heading same direction. So unfortunate. " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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All my clients complaiint of this same matter ,several tried to get the excellent African Hnuter but they never received it ....so what Safari magazine do you recommend ,we know AFRICAN HUNTER is excellent but very difficult to get . www.huntinginargentina.com.ar FULL PROFESSIONAL MEMBER OF IPHA INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASOCIATION . DSC PROFESSIONAL MEMBER DRSS--SCI NRA IDPA IPSC-FAT -argentine shooting federation cred number2- | |||
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I wonder if it was thin because advertising revenue is down? | |||
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I am an SCI Life Member, an Official Measurer and a past president of a major chapter. I am absolutely disgusted with what has happened to Safari Magazine. The editor is Steve Comus and he has overseen the changes that have destroyed what was a wonderful magazine centered around african hunting. Please, take a moment to call and lodge your complaint. SCI HQ Tucson, AZ, phone: 1-520-620-1220 Ask for publications and give them your constructive criticism. I have spoken with Theresa and am currently awaiting a call back from Steve Comus. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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I thought it was Ladies Home Journal when I got my issue. Barf!!! | |||
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Mike: When you talk with Steve, ask him if he's yet reviewed the direct link that I sent to him regarding this. He should have by now and should be fully aware of the vast majority of negative comments on the changes. | |||
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SCI's new motto And for the others: No more toast and jam! JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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I am very disappointed in the new format, but it's a golden opportunity for the female hygiene advertisers. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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I have written them more than once. The last time was apx. 2 months ago when a similar thread popped up. So far no response from SCI. Since then they had the issue with advertisements and award winners, no articles. Now this issue, I read Paul Brisso, Ron Martino and Bob Robb's articles. I have been an SCI member just for the magazine. When this subscription runs out I think I am done. My membership has not been continuous but it stretches back into the 70's. | |||
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Not really, Mike. This is not an on-line blog, although some of our more garrulous members may treat it as such. If someone has a beef with AR, would it make ANY sense to complain to SCI about it? No. Take your complaints to the parties with whom you have a problem. Repeated and concerted efforts to relate your displeasure to directly Tucson may have the desired effect (or it may not). AilsaWheels has it correct. If your concerns are not responded to, even if only to acknowledge receipt thereof, vote with your wallet and leave SCI; just be sure to state why you are leaving in your resignation letter. George | |||
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I used to go through the magazine page by page and read quite a bit. Now it has become a magazine I only look at if nothing else is going on and that ever happens. Just another item for the recycle bin. How sad. | |||
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I received a call- back from editor Steve Comus. We spoke for an extended period and I did not feel he was "rushing" me and he did want to hear my specific criticisms, which I gave him. We talked about the past, present and future of Safari Magazine. He did say he had received calls and emails both in favor of and opposed to the changes. I encouraged him to read this thread on AR - sorry UEG but I had not seen your post above when he and I spoke. I was emphatic in my displeasure with the articles on jam and jewelry in a hunting/conservation magazine and specifically voiced my concern on an article about how to mix an alcoholic beverage appearing in a magazine with rifle and ammunition ads. He assures me that more hunting articles will be returning to the magazine in the future and said he was in process of preparing an article on the SCI Lion support initiative. I strongly suggested a recurring feature regarding SCI expenditures on conservation projects be made a part of all issues. He did reiterate that what is being written today will not appear until approximately the Nov-Dec issue. I did suggest that the Safari Magazine cannot be all things to all people and that SCI needs to identify who exactly their membership - and therefore their target audience - really is. I also reminded him that the magazine is the major point of contact and information between SCI and the members, hence it must be relevant. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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I am not a SCI member & have not seen the magazine. But this what I want to read in a good hunting magazine * Hunting that is fun for kids - like I used to enjoy. Just a one page story of hunting rabbits, squirrels, doves or small game - dad & son etc. Also mentions ethics & safety. * Hunting story - the chase. come home empty handed but having seen & spooked game * Hunting story - for the pot * Hunting story - trophy - Old time - the way it used to be * Hunting story - current trophy scene * Hunting for women *Hunting among tribes & ethnic people around the world * Guns & rifles - old & new I believe that such a magazine will be read by almost all hunters - they will find at least one story that interests them and several they can identify with. If you cannot attract young hunters, you are going to be extinct! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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boarkiller, I am not 'out of touch' in the least, but I would not expect someone who has been a member here for a mere six months to know that. This is the issue at hand: SCI chooses to change the format of its magazine, and it vexes some members. Some of those same members are also vexed that SCI does not listen to them. As the numerous and long-running Out of Africa Adventurous Safaris threads proved, SCI does not care what its members and detractors post about it on AR. I will say it again - bitching about format changes here will not prompt action by SCI; bitching to SCI might. As an aside, years ago, SCI reduced the number of Member-written articles in favor of those written by the usual cadre of gun-rag writers; people complained vigorously and SCI backed off to a certain degree. George | |||
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