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Simple Solution - "Sports Afield" magazine!!!! | |||
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Sports Afield and DSC are indeed better options. MHO. Dave Fulson | |||
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I would like to point out the obvious on this topic, regarding bitching here about SCI issues. Dallas Safari Club does pay attention to this site and responds to relevant concerns raised here. Anyone that has been to DSC has seen the appreciation they have for the members here and their opinions. That is why I am a member of DSC and no longer of SCI. DRSS(We Band of Bubba's Div.) N.R.A (Life) T.S.R.A (Life) D.S.C. | |||
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Full Roar, If you publish your article here on AR I will read the article and so will many others. The articles I read here on AR are more enjoyable than what I have been reading in any magazines these days. Keep the hunting reports coming. | |||
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Bingo we have a winner. The most relevant post so far. | |||
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+1 Very disappointing. Used to look forward to receiving it. | |||
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Thanks Dave! Hope to see you in February!!! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Member since 1995 and I will not renew. It's DSC or bust! | |||
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Joining DSC tomorrow. | |||
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interesting trend developing here but do you guys thinks SCI cares?? NOT ON YOUR LIFE! they are too busy pushing jam and jewelry in what was once a good magazine.... Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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interesting trend? .... it makes me sick to see hunters deliberately running down a hunting organisation and encouraging people to unsubscribe. A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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I'm with Matt. I don't agree with everything SCI does and I have not really read the magazine for sometime but I'm not going to leave them anymore than I'm giving up my NRA membership and I sometimes think NRA is just coo-coo. I do think SCI is trying to protect our hunting rights and NRA is protecting out gun rights. These two things let me overlook basically anything else. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I think Matt and Mark have got the point of this thread. By all means join DSC, but I'm looking for people to give feedback to SCI on their magazine.....not quit the largest/most affective pro hunting/conservation organization in the world. I spoke with a friend regarding the magazine "quality" and he suggested that the way to affect real change would be to speak with the chapter presidents and get them onboard with the idea that Safari's new direction in not for the better. So I would encourage you all the contact your chapter presidents and have them look at Safari magazine and see if they agree. If enough chapter presidents feel this way and give feedback to National it will carry a LOT of weight. The bath water not the baby folks!!! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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I completely agree with you Matt. As I stated in my earlier post on this thread, I'm very disappointed and really surprised at the direction the magazine has taken. However, I'm not ready to throw out the baby with the bath water. It is painfully clear that some here are very good at bitching and pointing out faults while at the same time, are very poor at, or even incapable of offering constructive criticism that might help improve the largest hunter advocacy organization around. And no, peanuts thrown from the gallery will not turn things around. It takes hard work and effort working from within to do that. Some are pursuing that positive course of action. I see no conflict in being a member and supporter of both SCI and DSC. Although they pursue goals differently, they are not working against each other. | |||
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+1 Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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I made a complaint directly to the office of our italian chapter. They said they will call Steve Comus. Hope this works... mario | |||
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How they say in Italian? .... "Aspetta e spera" (wait and wish) | |||
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i don't need to run down SCI- they have done a excellent job of that all by themselves for the last 5-6 without any help from me or other members. of course, Kevin Anderson( OoAAS attorney and past SCI president) made criticism a slam dunk. BTW, whatever happened to SCI'S MAJOR hunt donor /advertiser and his rhino poaching charges in RSA??? Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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I just got my copy today. To read you old ladies bitch and whine, I expected a lot worse. Lots of stories, including one on bow hunting. Good reading. BTW, I skipped the single page on preserves. | |||
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yes "aspetta e spera..." mario | |||
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I just sent a letter by e mail to SCI, telling them how unacceptable this is. Members need to call and complain or e mail to complain. This editor needs to find a real job. | |||
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I believe the November/December issue is an improvement. I had called & left a voice mail. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Just got it yesterday. Agreed, a step in the right direction. | |||
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I quite agree with Mark on this. I left SCI years ago because of a local chapter thing, but when I get back to the US, I am ready to join again for the very reasons Mark states. Let's face it, we need to support SCI, DSC, NRA and similar groups and keep involved enough to influence them to stay on the right path. In part, this jam and jewelry phase is simply following life style changes – the same kind that destroyed great hunting stores like Abercrombie & Fitch, Eddie Bauer, et al. SCI will walk the right path if its members insist. It is not all about economics. They will focus on their target market if we make enough noise. Goodness, knows, there are enough people who are anti-hunting that if they don't, their livelihoods will fade away. On a side note, the Namibia rhino hunt in cooperation with DSC has been getting a huge amount of favorable press. We even see it here in Japan. SCI needs to work on similar programs. Norman Solberg International lawyer back in the US after 25 years and, having met a few of the bad guys and governments here and around the world, now focusing on private trusts that protect wealth from them. NRA Life Member for 50 years, NRA Endowment Member from 2014, NRA Patron from 2016. | |||
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Sad to say but I cancelled my membership after the last issue came out. | |||
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RE-UP. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Were you a member just to get the magazine? A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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I have allowed my SCI membership to expire as well. Cheers, a current member of DSC and HSC DSC Life Member HSC Life Member NRA Life Member SCI RMEF | |||
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Hey, this is easy. Cancel your subscription, drop your membership; that's how you get these guys' attention. I did a long time ago. You can always rejoin when the magazine improves. Dick Gunn “You must always stop and roll in the good stuff; it may not smell this way tomorrow.” Lucy, a long deceased Basset Hound " | |||
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Support: yes! But support DSC and let them lead the way now. SCI is too twisted in their inner doings and it seems to have evolved into an inner club of rich and powerful assholes. If the Alaska chapter would drop SCI and either go it alone (as did Dallas) or transfer their loyalty to Dallas and join them, I would work night and day in my support. From what I understand the Alaska chapter is one of the top fund raisers of all the chapters in the nation or world and could easily make it on their own. I mean, why send a large percentage of their income to SCI? I'd rather them keep the money and make their own plans. Just my opinion. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Good morning Cal, I and 10 others left the Phoenix Chapter simultaneously. That is to include no less than 5 past Presidents. The reasons are what you stated and many others. SCI as a international hunters advocacy organization has fundamentally lost its way. I, personally phoned the President of DSC. We spoke about DSC adopting the National Chapter model. At that time they were not interested. We had a Chapter in Phoenix ready to form, full officers and members at large. Doesn't make sense to me. Perhaps they have or will change direction and reach out for Chapters. International Hunting is not about tuxedo's, bands, rings inner circles or cliques. SCI has lost its way. Now back to splitting firewood for the long hard Phoenix winter. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Five past presidents simultaneously walked away from their own hunting club chapter... what does that say about their own leadership? A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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It will take something very drastic to get SCI to change their silly ways. | |||
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The people who can make changes benefit from the present format. I can't see any significant chance of even minor changes in the future. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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If you knew the current "King" you'd have a better understanding. We are mostly businessmen, volunteering our time. I for one am not about to get tossed about by some corporate cockroach climbing the SCI ladder. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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I just received the Nov/Dec issue of Safari magazine, and it is much improved from the last issue. That being said SCI is still a far cry from what it was when I first joined, back in the 1970s. Still SCI does a lot of good world wide for the hunter, especially the Safari hunter, but if the magazine is any indication of the direction they are moving IMO SCI will go the same way as Eddie Bauer, catering to the urban dim wits who are basically anti hunting! I'm standing by, but have the door open ready to hit the silk, and leave the plane to crash by it's self! ..................................................................... ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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IMO much of the issue with the magazine is a lack of sponsors - the safari industry (as a whole) has been bleeding out its eyeballs since 2010 and going back to 2008 of course. A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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I get several "Special Interest" magazines. Cycling; they DO NOT TRY to be all things to the bike riding demographic. Bike riders like wine as well, never have I seen or care to see an article on wine or cigars.....or cheese.....or fur coats. It's like looking at the show floor in Reno. I believe the real issue is experience in the publishing field. Pros have this figured out. Stay within your core competency. Hunting, all types. I would even not be opposed to some international fishing stuff. If an issue of Safari (the old style) showed up and of the multitude of hunting stories were not of an interest to me, I could just read the two or three that there were that did interest me. Now, they are so diluted, I just pitch the whole shebang without ever even taking it out of the plastic sleeve. If SCI doesn't care, piss on em. They know whats going on. Back when I threw in the towel, I did it here, I listed the reasons and posted my SCI membership number. I got a phone call. They seemed semi interested. Nothing can or will exist in a vacuum. Something will fill the void. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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So are you still a member or not? How do you know whats in it if you just pitch it unopened in the trash? A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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In all honesty, I do open it. I'd rather read it in the John than the stuff my wifey puts in there. Chico's advertisements are only so stimulating. And yes, I recently re-joined SCI. The only reason was, my taxidermist had two of my full-mounts in Reno. I wanted to see them there, Met Larry Sellars as well, what a nice man. Funny thing was, I hadn't been in probably 4 years. The place was EXACTLY the same, same booths in mostly the same places. Same people, same hotties, same cab rip-offs. The fact that I live in Phoenix, just down the road from the International HQ. amplifies the treachery, the back biting, the deal making. What a complete politically corrupt organization. OoA stays in and Mark Sullivan gets thrown out? for no reason given......still. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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