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Originally posted by Pondoro:
I strongly agree...this thread is only prolonged as raw advertisement to promote these DVD´s..

Enough now..

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Originally posted by Pondoro:
I will however say that I have the highest respect for Johan Calitz as a PH, he is THE PH that I would like to have with me on an ele bull hunt..

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Pondoro:
I will however say that I have the highest respect for Johan Calitz as a PH, he is THE PH that I would like to have with me on an ele bull hunt..

Me too, because I know no matter how bad my shot is that he is going to say, "Fantastic shot!"

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
Since I beat Saeed in ordering Mark's latest dvd I will beat him to a review of same.

Great footage and film quality. Exciting hunts with super trophy quality. The last hippo was amazing. Mark keeps turning out cutting edge excitement and I never tire of them.

I've only seen short clips of Ivan's dvds at Dallas so I can't comment. Other dvds--what can I say? I get tired of watching plains game assassinated from 300 yards or from "hunters" shooting over a water hole or a tree stand in the States. Or, following wounded buffalo in a vehicle. These examples alone make Mark's films well worth the money.

Cheers, fellas, and be gentle.
Cal

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Pondoro:
I strongly agree...this thread is only prolonged as raw advertisement to promote these DVD´s..

Enough now..

It also brings to the open the discussion that what MS does has nothing to do with hunting, but self glorification

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cal pappas:
Since I beat Saeed in ordering Mark's latest dvd I will beat him to a review of same.

Great footage and film quality. Exciting hunts with super trophy quality. The last hippo was amazing. Mark keeps turning out cutting edge excitement and I never tire of them.

I've only seen short clips of Ivan's dvds at Dallas so I can't comment. Other dvds--what can I say? I get tired of watching plains game assassinated from 300 yards or from "hunters" shooting over a water hole or a tree stand in the States. Or, following wounded buffalo in a vehicle. These examples alone make Mark's films well worth the money.

Cheers, fellas, and be gentle.
Cal

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Originally posted by cal pappas:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cal pappas:
Since I beat Saeed in ordering Mark's latest dvd I will beat him to a review of same.

Great footage and film quality. Exciting hunts with super trophy quality. The last hippo was amazing. Mark keeps turning out cutting edge excitement and I never tire of them.

I've only seen short clips of Ivan's dvds at Dallas so I can't comment. Other dvds--what can I say? I get tired of watching plains game assassinated from 300 yards or from "hunters" shooting over a water hole or a tree stand in the States. Or, following wounded buffalo in a vehicle. These examples alone make Mark's films well worth the money.

Cheers, fellas, and be gentle.
Cal

and how was the legendary lion hunt?[/QUOTE

Lions were great! One fell instantly to the client's shot. I've rarely seen an animal go down so quick.
I should have done what Mark has done rather than remaining a school teacher for my career.
Cal

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I just got off the phone with Mark Sullivan regarding the hunt won by Pagosawingnut for the benefit of Stu Taylor. He was both a gentleman and pretty funny. I can't wait for next week when the hunt takes place.

I know that it is unfashionable not to bash Mark, accusing him of everything from causing the impending downfall of hunting to being the man secretly orchestrating Obamacare, but let me give you another example of what Larry is talking about. I sent Mark a note this morning asking him to do something to help out our local safari club chapter. He responded in minutes saying he would be happy to help out with what I requested. I feel that I am not going too far out on a limb to suggest that the reality is that he is far more the gentleman than many of his detractors.

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Originally posted by DCS Member:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I just got off the phone with Mark Sullivan regarding the hunt won by Pagosawingnut for the benefit of Stu Taylor. He was both a gentleman and pretty funny. I can't wait for next week when the hunt takes place.

I know that it is unfashionable not to bash Mark, accusing him of everything from causing the impending downfall of hunting to being the man secretly orchestrating Obamacare, but let me give you another example of what Larry is talking about. I sent Mark a note this morning asking him to do something to help out our local safari club chapter. He responded in minutes saying he would be happy to help out with what I requested. I feel that I am not going too far out on a limb to suggest that the reality is that he is far more the gentleman than many of his detractors.

Mike, was this your local SCI Chapter? I assume so, as HSC has concluded (at least the annual convention). If it is Houston SCI, it's rather commendable.

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by rxgremlin:
Shawn,

As I have mentioned I don't have the DVD but is there anything about the footage to suggest that his remarks were taken out of context?

At first I accepted Mark's "let them choose how they are going to die" as part of his shtick. He is a showman and a self promoter and I can accept that. In this particular case he really "jumped the shark" by gushing about how great the lion hunt was. In my mind that crossed the line from being entertaining to being duplicitous.

To answer Cal's question about why Mark get scrutinized "while other PHs get a pass" probably has to do with Mark's bombastic style. These are Mark's words and come from his second book "Fear No Death".

"I have always said that for most professional hunters to ever have hair on their balls, I would first have to sit them down in a chair and place a rabbit in their laps.
Personally, I don't think that there are enough hares in the world to go around." p. 25

"I remember thinking how good it felt to be charged. How wonderful that on this day-this bull was giving me his all. I remember looking over my barrels and placing the front sight
on the center of his brain and saying 'wait, wait still too far-wait until he gets really close, then bang him. A moment more, that's all I need' Then, the unimaginable happened, I
heard Rob's .450 explode and saw his bullet, not mine, take the bull between the eyes. I could scarcely believe my bad luck. I was so transfixed in the moment that I had momentarily forgotten
that Rob was even there. More out of frustration than anything I gathered my sight picture and shot the great beast between the eyes. But his head had already hit the ground; my shot
was of no consequence. Rob killed the bull fair and square." p. 136-137 (He took a client on his first day in Africa to hunt hippo with a borrowed rifle. Mark was disappointed
that the client killed him at 21 feet rather than 10.)

"I suppose it won't be long before professional hunters will be wearing lip gloss and nail polish" p. 152 (referring to using PAST type recoil pads at the range. He calls them "bras")


It may seem like I'm cherry picking these quotes but I'm not. The book is rife with them. Pick up a copy and read it for yourself.


I'm quite sure that Mark is a gentleman in person, he certainly was to me. He should be commended for his philanthropy here on the forum and elsewhere. I agree with him on some issues
and disagree with him on others. However some of his behaviors and statements are hard to swallow.

Oh ... I don't know. I think it's all in how you view it. Some here really are put off by the banter but that's really all it is. A bit like when my two boys get together and rough house with wrestling and "insults". Drives my wife crazy but it's just boys being boys as they are very well behaved and well mannered young men, but like to mix it up a bit at times.

Mark's comments crack me up. I don't get offended by them. Like his statement about his 90 year old grandmother really liking the 500NE for use on DG! Reminds me of a Marine Captain instructor I had in flight school. His name was Capt. Champion ... a great name for an F4 Phantom pilot. I still remember him telling the class on the first day ... "Guys, pay attention in my class (engines and aerodynamics) because if you get good grades, you'll fly fighters and if you don't, you'll fly something with windshield wipers. You don't want windshield wipers on your plane because when you pick up chicks at the O Club and take them out to the flight line to see what you fly, the first thing she'll notice is the windshield wipers! Then she'll dump you and go looking for a fighter pilot"! Most thought it was funny, some not so much, especially the guys that ended up flying planes with windshield wipers!

(Sorry Jorge! )

Damn guys, get over it already. Mark is just putting on an act with the bravado. Every time I've spoken with him, he's been a real gentleman expressing a real love for hunting DG in Africa and double rifles. He likes to banter back and forth a lot. Personally, I find it funny and would enjoy the opportunity to give it back around the campfire with him. Probably will one of these days if I can ever put the Tanzania funds together.

Oh yeah, I think his videos are entertaining as well!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

Just remember that none of us who find MS hunting style so obnoxious is fit to walk in his shoes.

Or so says some of his hero worshippers

And remember, if you have ever shot an animal further than 10 yards, it wasn't hunting either

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"At 10 feet it is hunting. At 21 feet it is killing."

Mark Sullivan
Professional Hunter

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

He was polite/cordial as ever, we exchanged a couple stories - and he invited me to hunt hippo with him in TZ. I won't tell you what he said about it, but lets just say I about fell out of my truck in laughter. He truly is a character!

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

He was polite/cordial as ever, we exchanged a couple stories - and he invited me to hunt hippo with him in TZ. I won't tell you what he said about it, but lets just say I about fell out of my truck in laughter. He truly is a character!

You gonna use a 243??

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

He was polite/cordial as ever, we exchanged a couple stories - and he invited me to hunt hippo with him in TZ. I won't tell you what he said about it, but lets just say I about fell out of my truck in laughter. He truly is a character!

You gonna use a 243??

Nope! But I might use your .450NE again, I seemed to do ok with it last time??

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

He was polite/cordial as ever, we exchanged a couple stories - and he invited me to hunt hippo with him in TZ. I won't tell you what he said about it, but lets just say I about fell out of my truck in laughter. He truly is a character!

You gonna use a 243??

Nope! But I might use your .450NE again, I seemed to do ok with it last time??

Well I guess you were 10 foot away from the beast!!!

Those hippo on the videos sure look angry.

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

What more do I need bwana??

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
I just watched the elephant video posted here about assessment. I can't comment on the film or the hunt--sorry the elephant did not fall to the shot but sometimes that happens in hunting. However I did notice the PH shot just after the client shot. I think this is a very common practice if the client's first shot fails--at least on big/dangerous game. But I do notice it seems only MS gets hell for it.
Give me hell, Saeed, but it's the truth, mate.
Cheers,
Cal

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Originally posted by Trax:
How many MS admirers actually fall short of receiving respect from MS,
simply cause they fail to heroically despatch their angry charging DG at 10 feet?
..consequently, even MS worshippers are cowards in MS eyes.

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Originally posted by BenKK:
G'day Shawn, both those films look good, mate! PM on the way.

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. . oh and by the way, I am sure you will be disappointed to learn Saeed that of all the animals taken on the DVD, Mark shot first once. One hippo charge Mark and the client shot at the same time on all the rest, the client shot first and normally did their own follow up.

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Originally posted by fujotupu:

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. . oh and by the way, I am sure you will be disappointed to learn Saeed that of all the animals taken on the DVD, Mark shot first once. One hippo charge Mark and the client shot at the same time on all the rest, the client shot first and normally did their own follow up.

What little I know of follow ups is that most clients do NOT want the PH throwing lead at their animal unless they are invited to do so or at worst if the situation goes arse over tit and the PH is obliged to react as per "job description".