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Of the big five what one is more dangerous and why? | ||
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I guess that would depend on the situation and not the game. A hippo in the water is not as dangerous as a hippo on land with you in the way of the water. Would not a lone buff in the tall grass be more dangerous than a herd one 100 yards away? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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The hookers in Dar es Salaam? ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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What shot placement do you recommend for them? The price of knowledge is great but the price of ignorance is even greater. | |||
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Penicillin in the arm? Actually I don't think the shot needed has been developed! ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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The most dangerous is the one that decides to try to kill you on that particular day. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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The poacher with an AK-47 and a full magazine. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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bush planes ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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Plasmodium falciparum. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Having never hunted dangersous game, other than the female two legged kind, I can say this without bias of any kind: The most dangerous of the big 5 is whichever one you happen to be hunting when things go to pot! LOL Anxious to see what those that have been there think> 30+ years experience tells me that perfection hit at .264. Others are adequate but anything before or after is wishful thinking. | |||
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Trypanosoma brucei gambiense or the client with the shiny new 460 WBY and an unopened box of bullets. | |||
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Elephant,no doubt in my mind. Dave Fulson | |||
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Randy's question is being asked of the "Big 5". That rules out hippos. It's not a Rhino unless you're hunting a Black Rhino, because of the possibility of an unprovoked charge. Randy unless you have about $200K laying around, you're probably not interested in a Black Rhino. Just go for a green of a White Rhino. Rule out lions and leopards unless you happen to stumble across a wounded one in the bush. Randy that leaves you with buffs and eles. Most unwounded buffs will head the opposite way from humans when detected. Many PH's believe cow buffs are more likely to initiate unprovoked charges than bulls. That leave elephants, because of their predictable unpredictable nature, as the clear winner. Dave didn't you say something similar to that in about six words? | |||
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The wife's lawyer | |||
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Elephants IMHO. Especially if you hunt them up close. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Have you faced the "charge" the the little beggar? And more importantly, what "weapon" do you recommend? Doxy? Steve H NRA Benefactor Member "Most of my money I spent on reloading, hunting and shooting...the rest I just wasted." | |||
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Wendell can tell you all about it. | |||
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For hunter...leopard are responcible for arround 80% of incidents...but have only once herd of a guide getting killed by one. In terms of deaths..elephant. For photgraphic clients...croc and ele share the honours. For peasants...Lion and hippo | |||
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From years of big 5 viewing in the Kruger park we have only been charged by elephants. All of the big 5 have been viewed from 10yds and less. Elephants are the most unpredictable and moody of the lot(t). | |||
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Yeah, you can be out trying to annoy leopards, lions, and buff but they'll never charge you. But elephants, well you never know whether they is coming for ya! ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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As others have said, a lot depends on a variety of things like area and other factors such as hunting pressure etc. For example the Zambezi ladies (especially) are a nucking fightmare when it comes to agreesiveness and the terrain and bush make them doubly dangerous..... whereas in some some other areas, you can almost walk up to an elephant and slap it on the arse with a cricket bat. If we're talking previously wounded animals, that also has a lot of different answers, largely depending on where it's been previously wounded and the area/terrain you're hunting them in. At the end of the day, dead is dead and even a bushbuck can make you that way. Accit, You may well almost drive past my place on your way to the KNP. I stay just outside White River. | |||
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Cricket bat, maybe, but a golf club, especially one with square grooves?!!! Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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That means I drove past there less than a month ago I'll drop you a mail, we're planning a biltong hunt in May and maybe some trophies. Once I get my 458 license sorted we'll start looking at buffalo, hippo etc. Accit, You may well almost drive past my place on your way to the KNP. I stay just outside White River.[/QUOTE] | |||
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Have you been to Bilicanna's recently? _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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Only if you are Phil Mickelson or Scott McCarron. | |||
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Tuskless cow Elephant! (and the rest of her herd) I am by no means an accomplished African hunter, but thus far my closest encounters with a potential stomping have come almost exclusively from Elephant cows. They seem to get "rabbid" late in the season. JW | |||
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Pardon my ignorance, but why are the "tuskless" more aggressive?
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Elephant use their tusks in feeding (particularly bark stripping and washing reeds pulled from pans, etc.) and in their social intercourse. Tuskless get by by being more aggressive and aware and stealing food. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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On my first safari, I was having this very conversation with Roy Vincent. He said something I haven't forgotten, and which I believe is very true. Roy said "Elephants can hurt you worse on accident than most animals can on purpose." He went on to tell me about a wounded bull that had completely demolished a hunter who was following him into Wankie. He said all that was left was a bloody mound of clothes and flesh, as the bull had kneaded him with his front feet after killing him. Think of how many ways an elephant can wreck your day, there are a bunch of different things they can do to you. Yeah, I'd agree that Elephants are the most dangerous. | |||
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The most dangereous one is the one you let get to you. If an elephant gets to you, your dead. 465H&H | |||
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A pissed off redhead, no matter how big she is!! | |||
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Elephant in the rain forest! Rich Elliott Rich Elliott Ethiopian Rift Valley Safaris | |||
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Have any of you had or heard of encounters with poachers while on Safari? Would be interested in hearing the stories. | |||
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Rich, I seem to remember that Ric Martin had an 'interesting' hunt with Nassos many years ago that proved up just what you're saying above. | |||
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I think it is a toss between Mike and Dave on this one! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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ONLY two things scare me.... Women, and the Police.... DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I must admit, everytime I am hunting and see fresh elephant poop on the ground, I get very alert. | |||
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