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02 February 2010, 05:22
Randy Routier
What is most dangerous?
Of the big five what one is more dangerous and why?
02 February 2010, 05:27
boom stick
I guess that would depend on the situation and not the game.
A hippo in the water is not as dangerous as a hippo on land with you in the way of the water.
Would not a lone buff in the tall grass be more dangerous than a herd one 100 yards away?


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02 February 2010, 05:32
Will
The hookers in Dar es Salaam?


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02 February 2010, 05:56
Harris
quote:
Originally posted by Will:
The hookers in Dar es Salaam?


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02 February 2010, 06:03
Charles_Helm
quote:
Originally posted by Harris:

What shot placement do you recommend for them? Big Grin


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02 February 2010, 06:12
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02 February 2010, 06:29
JudgeG
The most dangerous is the one that decides to try to kill you on that particular day.


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02 February 2010, 06:36
LionHunter
The poacher with an AK-47 and a full magazine.


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02 February 2010, 06:39
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02 February 2010, 06:53
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02 February 2010, 06:58
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02 February 2010, 07:02
adamhunter
Having never hunted dangersous game, other than the female two legged kind, I can say this without bias of any kind:

The most dangerous of the big 5 is whichever one you happen to be hunting when things go to pot!

LOL

Anxious to see what those that have been there think>


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02 February 2010, 07:02
MikeBurke
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02 February 2010, 08:00
Dave Fulson
Elephant,no doubt in my mind.


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02 February 2010, 08:26
Bwana Moja
Randy's question is being asked of the "Big 5". That rules out hippos.

It's not a Rhino unless you're hunting a Black Rhino, because of the possibility of an unprovoked charge. Randy unless you have about $200K laying around, you're probably not interested in a Black Rhino. Just go for a green of a White Rhino.

Rule out lions and leopards unless you happen to stumble across a wounded one in the bush.

Randy that leaves you with buffs and eles. Most unwounded buffs will head the opposite way from humans when detected. Many PH's believe cow buffs are more likely to initiate unprovoked charges than bulls.

That leave elephants, because of their predictable unpredictable nature, as the clear winner. Dave didn't you say something similar to that in about six words?
02 February 2010, 08:27
kibokolambogo
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02 February 2010, 08:53
N E 450 No2
Elephants IMHO.

Especially if you hunt them up close.


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02 February 2010, 09:01
Steve H
quote:
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Have you faced the "charge" the the little beggar?
And more importantly, what "weapon" do you recommend? Doxy?


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02 February 2010, 10:02
jetdrvr
quote:
Originally posted by Steve H:
quote:
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MR


Have you faced the "charge" the the little beggar?
And more importantly, what "weapon" do you recommend? Doxy?


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02 February 2010, 12:09
Ganyana
For hunter...leopard are responcible for arround 80% of incidents...but have only once herd of a guide getting killed by one.

In terms of deaths..elephant.

For photgraphic clients...croc and ele share the honours. For peasants...Lion and hippo
02 February 2010, 14:39
accit
From years of big 5 viewing in the Kruger park we have only been charged by elephants. All of the big 5 have been viewed from 10yds and less. Elephants are the most unpredictable and moody of the lot(t).
02 February 2010, 15:27
Will
quote:
Originally posted by accit:
From years of big 5 viewing in the Kruger park we have only been charged by elephants. All of the big 5 have been viewed from 10yds and less. Elephants are the most unpredictable and moody of the lot(t).


Yeah, you can be out trying to annoy leopards, lions, and buff but they'll never charge you. But elephants, well you never know whether they is coming for ya!


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02 February 2010, 15:38
shakari
As others have said, a lot depends on a variety of things like area and other factors such as hunting pressure etc.

For example the Zambezi ladies (especially) are a nucking fightmare when it comes to agreesiveness and the terrain and bush make them doubly dangerous..... whereas in some some other areas, you can almost walk up to an elephant and slap it on the arse with a cricket bat.

If we're talking previously wounded animals, that also has a lot of different answers, largely depending on where it's been previously wounded and the area/terrain you're hunting them in.

At the end of the day, dead is dead and even a bushbuck can make you that way.

Accit,

You may well almost drive past my place on your way to the KNP. I stay just outside White River.






02 February 2010, 18:41
Peter
quote:
walk up to an elephant and slap it on the arse with a cricket bat.

Cricket bat, maybe, but a golf club, especially one with square grooves?!!!
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02 February 2010, 18:49
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02 February 2010, 19:03
accit
That means I drove past there less than a month ago Smiler
I'll drop you a mail, we're planning a biltong hunt in May and maybe some trophies.
Once I get my 458 license sorted we'll start looking at buffalo, hippo etc.

Accit,

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02 February 2010, 19:08
Wink
quote:
Originally posted by Will:
The hookers in Dar es Salaam?


Have you been to Bilicanna's recently?


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02 February 2010, 19:11
dogcat
quote:
Originally posted by Peter:
quote:
walk up to an elephant and slap it on the arse with a cricket bat.

Cricket bat, maybe, but a golf club, especially one with square grooves?!!!
Peter.


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02 February 2010, 19:14
Jeff Wemmer
Tuskless cow Elephant! (and the rest of her herd)

I am by no means an accomplished African hunter, but thus far my closest encounters with a potential stomping have come almost exclusively from Elephant cows.

They seem to get "rabbid" late in the season.

JW
02 February 2010, 19:21
eezridr
Pardon my ignorance, but why are the "tuskless" more aggressive?
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Wemmer:
Tuskless cow Elephant! (and the rest of her herd)

I am by no means an accomplished African hunter, but thus far my closest encounters with a potential stomping have come almost exclusively from Elephant cows.

They seem to get "rabbid" late in the season.

JW

02 February 2010, 19:40
JPK
Elephant use their tusks in feeding (particularly bark stripping and washing reeds pulled from pans, etc.) and in their social intercourse. Tuskless get by by being more aggressive and aware and stealing food.

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02 February 2010, 20:20
DLS
On my first safari, I was having this very conversation with Roy Vincent. He said something I haven't forgotten, and which I believe is very true. Roy said "Elephants can hurt you worse on accident than most animals can on purpose." He went on to tell me about a wounded bull that had completely demolished a hunter who was following him into Wankie. He said all that was left was a bloody mound of clothes and flesh, as the bull had kneaded him with his front feet after killing him. Think of how many ways an elephant can wreck your day, there are a bunch of different things they can do to you.

Yeah, I'd agree that Elephants are the most dangerous.
02 February 2010, 21:08
465H&H
The most dangereous one is the one you let get to you.
If an elephant gets to you, your dead.
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02 February 2010, 21:13
MAC
A pissed off redhead, no matter how big she is!! dancing
03 February 2010, 01:39
Rich Elliott
Elephant in the rain forest! Eeker

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03 February 2010, 06:26
Randy Routier
quote:
Originally posted by LionHunter:
The poacher with an AK-47 and a full magazine.


Have any of you had or heard of encounters with poachers while on Safari? Would be interested in hearing the stories.
03 February 2010, 06:31
DLS
quote:
Originally posted by Rich Elliott:
Elephant in the rain forest! Eeker

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Rich, I seem to remember that Ric Martin had an 'interesting' hunt with Nassos many years ago that proved up just what you're saying above.
03 February 2010, 08:18
MacD37
quote:
By Mike70560
or the client with the shiny new 460 WBY and an unopened box of bullets.

Mike


quote:
Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Elephant,no doubt in my mind.


I think it is a toss between Mike and Dave on this one! Eeker


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03 February 2010, 08:45
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03 February 2010, 09:00
RBHunt
I must admit, everytime I am hunting and see fresh elephant poop on the ground, I get very alert. Eeker