OK chaps. Here's a tough one for you.

I've got my own ideas on this, but what do you reckon this is and where do you reckon it comes from:

Hardly A. Hartebeeste???

mad goat,
killed on full charge with a light calibre double based on the holes in its skull

Hirola or Neumann's Hartebeest?

puku

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Originally posted by MD375:
Hirola or Neumann's Hartebeest?

+1

Perhaps a Jackson's Hartebeest?

All interesting ideas so far but look at the pic I posted and the length of the horn from the skull to the bend is considerably shorter than from the bend to tip.

Also, the horns are quite thick and fairly close together which I reckon rules out the others.

Could be a malformation though.

My guess is it's from either east or north Africa.......

Anyone else got any ideas?

Perhaps Soemmerrings gazelle
...or Spekes gazelle, Dorcas or Dama gazelle ?

Left and right swapped (hartebeeste)? Otherwise, Uganda kob or a puku.

A "hoax" (only kidding Steve!)

Topi or some other Damalisc?

I would bet on a topi, just from the shape

puku

One bad-ass impala

Hunter's Hartebeest or also known as Hunter's Antelope.

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Originally posted by Karoo:
Hunter's Hartebeest or also known as Hunter's Antelope.

+1

You beat me to it.

Brett

Puku or kob.

Hunter's Hartebeest or also known as Hunter's Antelope.
+2

I reckon the horns are too close for a Hunter's and the bend in the horns look too acute for Puku.

It'd help if we had something there to help us size it maybe.

Cokes Hartebeest ?

Tiang?

The Picture looks like it's taken from an angle that makes the horn from base to first curve and 1st curve to 2nd curve look shorter than the tops. I've got several guesses that include different hartebeest and possible mixed breed hartebeest... swayne's, and maybe a lichtenstein's/coke's cross. Just a thought...

A pair of Harley handlebars?

Sam

Only once have I seen a confirmed blesbuckXred hartebeest crossbreed. That was near Koedoeskop in Limpopo Province. That one had a very distinctive white blaze and horns similar to shakari's mystery animal. But at my age my memory of a single sighting is not so good any more. FWIW, I'd now put my money on the crossbreed theory. If not that, I'g rather not guess and show how ignorant I am.

In goos hunting.

Andrew McLaren

This is why I prefer shoulder mounts!

I would venture to guess that it was someones supper

Keith

it is a cross between a hartebeest and a blesbuck.

Ian Goss has the answer...

Seloushunter

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Originally posted by mboga biga bwana:
Ian Goss has the answer...

Seloushunter

You reckon?

I'll try him tomorrow...

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Originally posted by mboga biga bwana:
Ian Goss has the answer...

Seloushunter

Seloushunter,

I do know that Ian is a very clever guy. Also know that, as head of a PH School, he does indeed know a hellofalot about most, if not all, things related to hunting. But the way you make the statement implies there is something else.

Why do you say he knows?

Steve,

Please lift the suspense ASAP and tell us. Or can it be that you also really do not know what animal those horns came from???

In good hunting.

Andrew McLaren

Andrew,

I sent it to Ian a few days ago but he was offline over the weekend and although is now back, he isn't answering his skype..... I guess he's probably left his laptop on and gone out somewhere.......

As to what it is, I'm not sure I'm afraid. The pic was sent to me in the hope I can identify it and I'm told it's already gone the rounds of game depts and taxidermists etc.

My guess is it's a hartebeest hybrid of some kind but I don't think I can in all honesty get any closer than that. I'd say, whatever it is, it's from an oldish male because of the thick bases and blunt tips.

Another possibility is a puku as Bwanamich says but the angle of the bend looks too sharp to me...... although that could just be bad photography.

I've asked for horn measurements in the hope that might help.

Just comparing it to what I have on the wall, it most closely resembles a Lelwell Hartebeest. I first thought of Hirola but it's too thick to be that..they are more dainty and lyre shaped. A side shot would probably help.

Rich Elliott

Rich,

I agree a side shot would help!

I also considered Lelwell and Hirola but it just doesn't look right for either to me.

Ok guys I broke out my 1984 SCI rcord book of trophy animals and on page 178 ther is a picture of Watson Yahimoto with the number one Lelwell Hartebeest and it is a dead ringer for these two that Shikari has posted. Unfortunately I am not very good with posting pics etc. maybe somone has this issue and can post?? Thanks

If you can email them to me at shakari3@mweb.co.za I'll be happy to post them for you.

I think that it is obviously a hartebeest of sorts. I think that the Coke's and Lelwel are subspecies and can breed with each other forming hybrids. Am not sure what a blesbuck/hartebeest hybrid would look like, but would have thought the horns would not be as robust as this specimen, but could be wrong.

Ok Steve, will do I just have to figure out how to run the scanner and then mail the pic to you. Asante

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Originally posted by mboga biga bwana:
Ian Goss has the answer...

Seloushunter

Nope, Ian is a bit baffled as well... .but he did say it could well be a hartebeest/God knows what hybrid of some kind.

How about a Blesbok-Hartebeest Cross?
Called Harte-bok..