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On your SUCCESSFUL leopard hunts, how far were your blinds from the bait?

For me, the farthest was in the Erongo Mountains at 93 paces.

The closest was in the Kafue where the brush and trees limited us to 23 yards. Made for some very quiet sitting!

The rest have been 50-60 yards.
 
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We never really paid much attention to the distances involved.

We pick a suitable tree, and see where is the best place to build the blind.

I think the closest was about 50 yards, and the longest was well over 100.

It really should not make any difference, as one is shooting off a rest, and those who miss or wound a leopard have only themselves to blame.

I think it Hallamor who said one should measure the exact distance and sight his rifle to that distance!

What an utterly pointless thing to do.


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About 80 yards.
 
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I've been fortunate to take three 3 leopards in daylight. Blinds were all between 35-37 yards.

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We never really paid much attention to the distances involved.

We pick a suitable tree, and see where is the best place to build the blind.

I think the closest was about 50 yards, and the longest was well over 100.

It really should not make any difference, as one is shooting off a rest, and those who miss or wound a leopard have only themselves to blame.

I think it Hallamor who said one should measure the exact distance and sight his rifle to that distance!

What an utterly pointless thing to do.


Saeed,

Often we will check the rifle is still on target prior to sitting. But as you have pointed out fractions of 25, 50 or 100 yards matters not if you cannot hit a dinner plate.


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Only one leopard hunt, successful, 47 yards.


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About 50 and 75 yards
 
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17 and 19 yards


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Mine was 50 yards. Here's the trail cam pic of him the morning before I shot him, with the warthog 1/4 wired to the tree next to him.


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Distance is of little consequence! If you want the cat to know you're there - put the blind closer!

There's no reason for that....none! If doing so, generally the PH is concerned about the shooter or the follow - up.

Unless you are bow hunting, there's no reason to be on top of the bait. As Saeed says, bait location is always dictated on blind / bait location at the same time. A good PH selects the bait site - at the same time he's selecting the blind site based on wind direction, expected cat direction, etc.

50 - 100 yards is standard, I hate it when PH's want to sit too close to the bait....too many chances the cat will know we are there. I'm on a dead rest, the cat is 70 yards away - its a chip shot bro. So let's get the cat in the tree - not spook him before he ever gets there. Just my opinion!


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Richard Bell-Cross and I have done several / very creative things to get the Leopard to show up in the daylight in Zambia. I've shot / witnessed at least 5 leopards shot with him - each time we were hunting over ground baits - not tree baits.


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Since my last hunt, I only shoot them on the ground, in the daylight, at about 30 paces.

I will continue to hold to this policy until on a future hunt when I see them in a tree or on the ground, at night or during the day, above dogs or not, near or far, at which point I will shoot as fast as I can comfortably get the well-endowed SOB in my scope.

If your PH puts you at 35 yards from the bait with a rifle, consider two things:
1) the cats in that geographic location are oblivious; and/or
2) he's watched you shoot bait impalas in the hind leg one too many times, and he prefers not to get scratched.

Either way, do what the PH says.
 
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Since my last hunt, I only shoot them on the ground, in the daylight, at about 30 paces.

I will continue to hold to this policy until on a future hunt when I see them in a tree or on the ground, at night or during the day, above dogs or not, near or far, at which point I will shoot as fast as I can comfortably get the well-endowed SOB in my scope.

If your PH puts you at 35 yards from the bait with a rifle, consider two things:
1) the cats in that geographic location are oblivious; and/or
2) he's watched you shoot bait impalas in the hind leg one too many times, and he prefers not to get scratched.

Either way, do what the PH says.


I guarantee you the 17 & 19 yards were a result of #1. AS far as #2 goes, he saw us drill plenty of bait animals from different distance. Nothing was wounded.

His closest blind to bait Leopard as 9 yards. That was with an archer.

The Leopards in Block L-7 of the Niassa Reserve have very little human pressure.


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Richard Bell-Cross and I have done several / very creative things to get the Leopard to show up in the daylight in Zambia. I've shot / witnessed at least 5 leopards shot with him - each time we were hunting over ground baits - not tree baits.

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The low bait is definitely a frequent player in his bag of tricks. For the leopard I shot in 2010 as a client, Rich moved the bait from a tree down to the ground when the cat was not showing up during daylight, and we managed to get him right before dark once we did that. I can recall another cat from my appy days that we took on a lowered bait, with a long path (swept of twigs by Gingo, Tom, and me) used to walk to the bait and catch the tom when he was already there one morning. And low baits were sometimes used where no cat was feeding yet, either because of the location or to act as a combo bait for leopards and lions.

To answer the original question, yes, 40-70 yards is typical. It's a tough shot to miss.
 
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Daylight, 1 shot at 62 yards over a pond.
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I've only shot two, but I've built a lot of leopard blinds. Michel M. builds a blind on every bait when the bait is hung and he prefers over 100. They've ranged from about 125 yards down to about 40, depending on the terrain. But the close one had a creek between the blind and the tree. The two successful were the 125 and about 60.
 
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25 yards


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170 yards at 8:30 in the morning, in the rocks watching us on our way to check baits. On day 3


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We never really paid much attention to the distances involved.

We pick a suitable tree, and see where is the best place to build the blind.

I think the closest was about 50 yards, and the longest was well over 100.

It really should not make any difference, as one is shooting off a rest, and those who miss or wound a leopard have only themselves to blame.

I think it Hallamor who said one should measure the exact distance and sight his rifle to that distance!

What an utterly pointless thing to do.


Saeed,

Often we will check the rifle is still on target prior to sitting. But as you have pointed out fractions of 25, 50 or 100 yards matters not if you cannot hit a dinner plate.



Andrew,

For the years I have been hunting, I have never had to sight my rifle on safari!

I checked them here with the ammo I am going to use, and that is pretty much it.

Only people we have had complain about the sighting of these rifles is when they continue to miss, and in all occasions, the culprit was not the rifle, but the man shooting it clap


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fractions of 25, 50 or 100 yards matters not if you cannot hit a dinner plate.


That comment would be better applicable to larger targets; for Leopards I would prefer a saucer. Wink

My preferred shooting distance could be anything between 40 to 70 yards after having monitored my client's shooting abilities.
 
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40 yards. And zeroed to hit a fly’s eye at exactly that range.


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We never really paid much attention to the distances involved.

We pick a suitable tree, and see where is the best place to build the blind.

I think the closest was about 50 yards, and the longest was well over 100.

It really should not make any difference, as one is shooting off a rest, and those who miss or wound a leopard have only themselves to blame.

I think it Hallamor who said one should measure the exact distance and sight his rifle to that distance!

What an utterly pointless thing to do.


Saeed,

Often we will check the rifle is still on target prior to sitting. But as you have pointed out fractions of 25, 50 or 100 yards matters not if you cannot hit a dinner plate.



Andrew,

For the years I have been hunting, I have never had to sight my rifle on safari!

I checked them here with the ammo I am going to use, and that is pretty much it.

Only people we have had complain about the sighting of these rifles is when they continue to miss, and in all occasions, the culprit was not the rifle, but the man shooting it clap


Saeed,

In all my years I would say 50% of scoped rifles require adjustment and a number of safaris had to adjust again. I think on two occasions we had to change the scope.

The attempted damage of rifle cases is common place and some bear the tire tracks of heavy vehicles. The worse I had seen was a very expensive H&H Double with a broken stock and the same client's bolt action rifle had a broken trigger!

However if you do fly first class I suspect your luggage is treated differently.


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The attempted damage of rifle cases is common place and some bear the tire tracks of heavy vehicles. The worse I had seen was a very expensive H&H Double with a broken stock and the same client's bolt action rifle had a broken trigger!
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I have honestly never experienced that in 25 years.


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I use a heavy metal case to fly with my rifles.

The worst treatment they get is in the truck!

And I ever, repeat NEVER, let anyone else touch my gun.

Especially amp staff.

Quite often I see them being handed the client rifle to clean or take to the tent.

Not mine

On one safari the PHwe were here hunting with said someone will clean my rifle.

I said he better not even touch it!


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20, 30 and 70 yards. Two in daylight, the last at dark.


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Makes little difference as long as you know the distance I suppose. probably any distance between 25 and 100 yards IMO..but wouldn't swear to that.


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