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Leopard bait to blind?
05 March 2018, 19:28
OngweLeopard bait to blind?
On your SUCCESSFUL leopard hunts, how far were your blinds from the bait?
For me, the farthest was in the Erongo Mountains at 93 paces.
The closest was in the Kafue where the brush and trees limited us to 23 yards. Made for some very quiet sitting!
The rest have been 50-60 yards.
05 March 2018, 20:01
SaeedWe never really paid much attention to the distances involved.
We pick a suitable tree, and see where is the best place to build the blind.
I think the closest was about 50 yards, and the longest was well over 100.
It really should not make any difference, as one is shooting off a rest, and those who miss or wound a leopard have only themselves to blame.
I think it Hallamor who said one should measure the exact distance and sight his rifle to that distance!
What an utterly pointless thing to do.
05 March 2018, 20:23
SliderAbout 80 yards.
05 March 2018, 20:38
MARK H. YOUNGI've been fortunate to take three 3 leopards in daylight. Blinds were all between 35-37 yards.
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fairgamequote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
We never really paid much attention to the distances involved.
We pick a suitable tree, and see where is the best place to build the blind.
I think the closest was about 50 yards, and the longest was well over 100.
It really should not make any difference, as one is shooting off a rest, and those who miss or wound a leopard have only themselves to blame.
I think it Hallamor who said one should measure the exact distance and sight his rifle to that distance!
What an utterly pointless thing to do.
Saeed,
Often we will check the rifle is still on target prior to sitting. But as you have pointed out fractions of 25, 50 or 100 yards matters not if you cannot hit a dinner plate.
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05 March 2018, 22:40
CustomOnly one leopard hunt, successful, 47 yards.
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05 March 2018, 22:52
crbutlerAbout 50 and 75 yards
05 March 2018, 23:22
Frostbit17 and 19 yards
05 March 2018, 23:36
fairgamequote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
17 and 19 yards
Knife or spear?
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05 March 2018, 23:49
buffybrMine was 50 yards. Here's the trail cam pic of him the morning before I shot him, with the warthog 1/4 wired to the tree next to him.
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06 March 2018, 00:38
Aaron NeilsonDistance is of little consequence! If you want the cat to know you're there - put the blind closer!
There's no reason for that....none! If doing so, generally the PH is concerned about the shooter or the follow - up.
Unless you are bow hunting, there's no reason to be on top of the bait. As Saeed says, bait location is always dictated on blind / bait location at the same time. A good PH selects the bait site - at the same time he's selecting the blind site based on wind direction, expected cat direction, etc.
50 - 100 yards is standard, I hate it when PH's want to sit too close to the bait....too many chances the cat will know we are there. I'm on a dead rest, the cat is 70 yards away - its a chip shot bro. So let's get the cat in the tree - not spook him before he ever gets there. Just my opinion!
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www.huntghr.com 06 March 2018, 00:41
Aaron NeilsonRichard Bell-Cross and I have done several / very creative things to get the Leopard to show up in the daylight in Zambia. I've shot / witnessed at least 5 leopards shot with him - each time we were hunting over ground baits - not tree baits.
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tygersmanSince my last hunt, I only shoot them on the ground, in the daylight, at about 30 paces.
I will continue to hold to this policy until on a future hunt when I see them in a tree or on the ground, at night or during the day, above dogs or not, near or far, at which point I will shoot as fast as I can comfortably get the well-endowed SOB in my scope.
If your PH puts you at 35 yards from the bait with a rifle, consider two things:
1) the cats in that geographic location are oblivious; and/or
2) he's watched you shoot bait impalas in the hind leg one too many times, and he prefers not to get scratched.
Either way, do what the PH says.
06 March 2018, 00:57
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
17 and 19 yards
Knife or spear?
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06 March 2018, 01:03
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by tygersman:
Since my last hunt, I only shoot them on the ground, in the daylight, at about 30 paces.
I will continue to hold to this policy until on a future hunt when I see them in a tree or on the ground, at night or during the day, above dogs or not, near or far, at which point I will shoot as fast as I can comfortably get the well-endowed SOB in my scope.
If your PH puts you at 35 yards from the bait with a rifle, consider two things:
1) the cats in that geographic location are oblivious; and/or
2) he's watched you shoot bait impalas in the hind leg one too many times, and he prefers not to get scratched.
Either way, do what the PH says.
I guarantee you the 17 & 19 yards were a result of #1. AS far as #2 goes, he saw us drill plenty of bait animals from different distance. Nothing was wounded.
His closest blind to bait Leopard as 9 yards. That was with an archer.
The Leopards in Block L-7 of the Niassa Reserve have very little human pressure.
06 March 2018, 02:01
sandyhunterquote:
Richard Bell-Cross and I have done several / very creative things to get the Leopard to show up in the daylight in Zambia. I've shot / witnessed at least 5 leopards shot with him - each time we were hunting over ground baits - not tree baits.
Aaron Neilson
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The low bait is definitely a frequent player in his bag of tricks. For the leopard I shot in 2010 as a client, Rich moved the bait from a tree down to the ground when the cat was not showing up during daylight, and we managed to get him right before dark once we did that. I can recall another cat from my appy days that we took on a lowered bait, with a long path (swept of twigs by Gingo, Tom, and me) used to walk to the bait and catch the tom when he was already there one morning. And low baits were sometimes used where no cat was feeding yet, either because of the location or to act as a combo bait for leopards and lions.
To answer the original question, yes, 40-70 yards is typical. It's a tough shot to miss.
06 March 2018, 04:17
ozhunterquote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
17 and 19 yards
typical in Niassa
06 March 2018, 04:39
tom oDaylight, 1 shot at 62 yards over a pond.
Worked for me.
06 March 2018, 06:35
lavacaI've only shot two, but I've built a lot of leopard blinds. Michel M. builds a blind on every bait when the bait is hung and he prefers over 100. They've ranged from about 125 yards down to about 40, depending on the terrain. But the close one had a creek between the blind and the tree. The two successful were the 125 and about 60.
06 March 2018, 06:37
samir25 yards
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06 March 2018, 07:23
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by ozhunter:
quote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
17 and 19 yards
typical in Niassa
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06 March 2018, 07:41
Hogbreath170 yards at 8:30 in the morning, in the rocks watching us on our way to check baits. On day 3
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06 March 2018, 07:46
tygersmanquote:
Originally posted by Hogbreath:
170 yards at 8:30 in the morning, in the rocks watching us on our way to check baits. On day 3
Ice water - impressive.
06 March 2018, 07:55
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
We never really paid much attention to the distances involved.
We pick a suitable tree, and see where is the best place to build the blind.
I think the closest was about 50 yards, and the longest was well over 100.
It really should not make any difference, as one is shooting off a rest, and those who miss or wound a leopard have only themselves to blame.
I think it Hallamor who said one should measure the exact distance and sight his rifle to that distance!
What an utterly pointless thing to do.
Saeed,
Often we will check the rifle is still on target prior to sitting. But as you have pointed out fractions of 25, 50 or 100 yards matters not if you cannot hit a dinner plate.
Andrew,
For the years I have been hunting, I have never had to sight my rifle on safari!
I checked them here with the ammo I am going to use, and that is pretty much it.
Only people we have had complain about the sighting of these rifles is when they continue to miss, and in all occasions, the culprit was not the rifle, but the man shooting it
06 March 2018, 09:19
fulvioquote:
fractions of 25, 50 or 100 yards matters not if you cannot hit a dinner plate.
That comment would be better applicable to larger targets; for Leopards I would prefer a saucer.
My preferred shooting distance could be anything between 40 to 70 yards after having monitored my client's shooting abilities.
06 March 2018, 10:13
Michael Robinson40 yards. And zeroed to hit a fly’s eye at exactly that range.
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06 March 2018, 10:31
fairgamequote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
We never really paid much attention to the distances involved.
We pick a suitable tree, and see where is the best place to build the blind.
I think the closest was about 50 yards, and the longest was well over 100.
It really should not make any difference, as one is shooting off a rest, and those who miss or wound a leopard have only themselves to blame.
I think it Hallamor who said one should measure the exact distance and sight his rifle to that distance!
What an utterly pointless thing to do.
Saeed,
Often we will check the rifle is still on target prior to sitting. But as you have pointed out fractions of 25, 50 or 100 yards matters not if you cannot hit a dinner plate.
Andrew,
For the years I have been hunting, I have never had to sight my rifle on safari!
I checked them here with the ammo I am going to use, and that is pretty much it.
Only people we have had complain about the sighting of these rifles is when they continue to miss, and in all occasions, the culprit was not the rifle, but the man shooting it
Saeed,
In all my years I would say 50% of scoped rifles require adjustment and a number of safaris had to adjust again. I think on two occasions we had to change the scope.
The attempted damage of rifle cases is common place and some bear the tire tracks of heavy vehicles. The worse I had seen was a very expensive H&H Double with a broken stock and the same client's bolt action rifle had a broken trigger!
However if you do fly first class I suspect your luggage is treated differently.
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06 March 2018, 11:12
Jan DumonThe attempted damage of rifle cases is common place and some bear the tire tracks of heavy vehicles. The worse I had seen was a very expensive H&H Double with a broken stock and the same client's bolt action rifle had a broken trigger!
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I have honestly never experienced that in 25 years.
06 March 2018, 15:11
SaeedI use a heavy metal case to fly with my rifles.
The worst treatment they get is in the truck!
And I ever, repeat NEVER, let anyone else touch my gun.
Especially amp staff.
Quite often I see them being handed the client rifle to clean or take to the tent.
Not mine
On one safari the PHwe were here hunting with said someone will clean my rifle.
I said he better not even touch it!
07 March 2018, 08:52
georgeldthat's good insurance imo.
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07 March 2018, 19:41
L. David Keith20, 30 and 70 yards. Two in daylight, the last at dark.
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08 March 2018, 01:29
AtkinsonMakes little difference as long as you know the distance I suppose. probably any distance between 25 and 100 yards IMO..but wouldn't swear to that.
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08 March 2018, 17:17
Terry BlauwkampI asked an "old -timer" how far he sets his blind?
His reply.."73 yards". I asked why, and his reply was, "Cause I never had one go more than 72 yards after being shot".
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13 March 2018, 02:56
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