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I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the donors and Conservation Force(especially Chrissie) who have assisted me up to now. Even though the accident happened over a year ago, my rehabilitation has been slow, and is on going through physiotherapy and gym. Without your support I would not have been able to come this far and to remain determined. There seems to be some concern as to how the funds so kindly donated, have been allocated and I am saddened by the notion that I would in any way take advantage of the kindness I have received. Those who know me will attest to my openness and transparency. I would never abuse the help I have been given and will remain forever grateful. Whilst I need to protect my future, I am doing so with the assistance of counsel(on a contingency basis) who has been engaging Tim Herald and his insurers. This process began when Tim Herald's insurers requested an interview with me whilst I was in hospital in Johanesburg, South Africa. For this interview I was advised to have a lawyer present. I would like to assure all the donors who have contributed so generously that their donations have never been used to pay a lawyer. The funds have been used solely for my rehabilitation and living expenses for myself, my trackers and families. Once again I would like to portray my sincere thanks. Best regards, Stu Taylor P.S. I am not a member of AR, I have used my Father's account to post this message | ||
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Stu, Thanks for posting. We pray you are well soon. Regards, | |||
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Wishing you the very best and hope you are able to return to your passion soon! Best always, Shawn Shawn Joyce Diizche Safari Adventures P.O. Box 1445 Lincoln, CA 95648 E-mail: shawn.joyce@diizchesafariadventures.net Cell: (916) 804-3318 Shoot Straight, Live the Dream, and Keep Turning the Pages to Your Next Adventure!™ Website- www.DiizcheSafariAdventures.com Blog- http://diizchesafari.blogspot.com/ Twitter- http://twitter.com/DiizcheSafari YouTube- http://www.youtube.com/user/shawncjoyce Facebook- http://on.fb.me/gYytdn Instagram: diizchesafari_official | |||
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Thank you for explaining this to us. Hope you are able to return to work soon! "The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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Stu, as far as I am concerned, no explanation is necessary. But I understand and appreciate, given recent comments posted on this forum, why you have felt the need to provide one. You have shown enormous grace and strength, while under great physical and emotional strain and pressure, throughout this ordeal. Continued best wishes for your full recovery and a full-time return to your vocation. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Stu, thanks so much for your post and best wishes as you rehab. We are hoping and praying for a speedy recovery. Sorry that in addition to all that you are going though you had to deal with this nonsense and take time to set the record straight. | |||
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If I understand correctly then Stu and Tim are doing the right thing. If there is a policy that can be claimed against then I would do the same. I assume that the drive to do this would actually have come from Tim as it is the easiest way to give Stu a fighting chance at getting through this all. Stu, all the best and I hope that things go well. Keep your chin up and keep smiling. cheers Ian Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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I am glad to know that, myself. Our thoughts and prayers still go forth and hopefully, you will get over this misfortune. Happy New Year. | |||
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+1....Dear Stu, Mike could not have expressed my feelings better!!! Wish you and your family the very BEST and my prayers for you folks cease not!!! Bless you brother...well done!!! Roland | |||
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Totally agree with both of you, as I said on another post. Stu, I think it is important to remember that you are the victim in all of this, not the other way around. And you can do as you please with the money I donated. | |||
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Stu, First of all, you and yours have me and my families prayers for what you are continuing to go through. We truly wish you the best. as to your statement.....
The only people who would have this "concern" are those who did not truly "give" what was sent to you. Any funds truly "given" surely were done so because they saw a man in need and were intrusted to you to do with as you saw fit (even if that meant defending yourself legally).
I am saddened that you would feel the need to declare your "openness and transparency" because of ridiculous and unreasonable statements made by some on here questioning your decision to do your best to secure you and your families future. Many of these idiots spend too much time on here and start to believe their own bullshit. As if $50k or $100k would secure your family for a lifetime, or even a couple of years for that matter, hell, that probably doesn't even touch your continuing medical bills. Any decision you have made on how to spend the limited funds available to you in no way constitutes "abuse". Some of the lemmings statements that you have "bit the hand that feeds" is ridiculous and deserves no attention by you.
Wow, talk about trickle down economics, The statement in bold speaks of a man who knows how he truly makes his living and how those beneath him (in the hierarchy) are essential. This is a concept lost on many of the safari club jerk offs around here who enjoy looking down their noses at those they see as "beneath" them. | |||
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Who on AR was responsible for starting the disparaging rumor that Stu Taylor did something different to the above? | |||
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I believe that would be Saeed with the below quote...
Perhaps Saeed will pass responsibility of this statement on to whoever actually made it? | |||
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Stu Glad to hear you're doing better and the recovery is progressing Best wishes Orvar | |||
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IIRC, LarryShores posted some days ago to give the impression that; Stu Taylor indicated to him personally, that the raised funds were being used to fund litigation. Yet Stu has subsequently posted on AR to say that is NOT and NEVER has been, the situation.
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Hang in there Stu it's tough, I have been there and it will all pass " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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Stu, All the best in 2014 and wish you a full and complete recovery! On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Stu, Wish you the best. You were well-advised to have counsel before the interview with the insurer. The criticisms here are from folks who don't understand the dance. | |||
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505 Gibbs, this thread will help you a little maybe .... http://forums.accuratereloadin...1411043/m/9901034591 | |||
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+1 Life is how you spend the time between hunting trips. Through Responsible Sustainable hunting we serve Conservation. Outfitter permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/73984 PH permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/81197 Jaco Human SA Hunting Experience jacohu@mweb.co.za www.sahuntexp.com | |||
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Nice piece Jaco! | |||
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Those of you judging Stu should walk a mile in his shoes. Most of you couldnt! You go stare down the barrel of financial ruin and physical disability and then we will talk again. The system left Stu in the lurch, now he has a family to fight for. Long after he has been forgotten on these internet forums he will still live with the stone around his neck that whether intentional or not, Tim placed there. Time has done all he can so far. Perhaps allowing Stu to sue his insurance is the best thing Tim could ever do for the man. Rowland, your comments are shallow and unwarranted. You should be ashamed. Saeed, have you spoken to Stu? Have you Spoken with Tim? If not then you too should be ashamed for your actions. You are leading the charge on an "ethical decision" whilst a family sits in limbo. Can you look them in the eye and tell them that their future is less important than your "moral compass". Think of your children looking at you asking where their next meal will come from, or maybe asking why they cant go to school like the other kids. Shame on you all for casting stones to smooth your ruffled feathers before considering the very harsh realities of this situation. Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Hang in there buddy, life threw you a tough one. I hope for the best for you and the family Dave Davenport Outfitters license HC22/2012EC Pro Hunters license PH74/2012EC www.leopardsvalley.co.za dave@leopardsvalley.co.za +27 42 24 61388 HUNT AFRICA WHILE YOU STILL CAN Follow us on FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/#!/leopardsvalley.safaris | |||
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Most of you don't understand the economics of fthe personal injury lawsuit. Ridiculous as it is, the plaintif's lawyer usally gets 40% of the net after the client pays all the expenses, regardless of how easy the case was to get a settlement. Some of the more scrupulous plaintiffs lawyers will cut that back to 33% if they don't take it to trial. Maybe 5% of cases go to trial. | |||
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And, we have the added factor of a liability inurance policy. A whole lot of folks have spoken their opoinions and I accept that. It's a bit more complicated than that and unless you deal in this arena every day, it's too complicated to explain, nor would I want to. | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hunting the Box H: Those of you judging Stu should walk a mile in his shoes. Most of you couldnt! You go stare down the barrel of financial ruin and physical disability and then we will talk again. The system left Stu in the lurch, now he has a family to fight for. Long after he has been forgotten on these internet forums he will still live with the stone around his neck that whether intentional or not, Tim placed there. Time has done all he can so far. Perhaps allowing Stu to sue his insurance is the best thing Tim could ever do for the man. Rowland, your comments are shallow and unwarranted. You should be ashamed. Saeed, have you spoken to Stu? Have you Spoken with Tim? If not then you too should be ashamed for your actions. You are leading the charge on an "ethical decision" whilst a family sits in limbo. Can you look them in the eye and tell them that their future is less important than your "moral compass". Think of your children looking at you asking where their next meal will come from, or maybe asking why they cant go to school like the other kids. Shame on you all for casting stones to smooth your ruffled feathers before considering the very harsh realities of this situation.[/QUOTE Hunting the Box H! Your/this post is over the top and in my view not acceptable. I believe you owe both Roland (not Rowland as in Wards) and Saeed an apology. Take some time and go back and read the Stu Taylor Print Benefit thread. Stop shaming others out, in particular those who gave so much of their time, talents and efforts, others their funds, to support Stuart TayloÅr. I don't know what you are hoping to gain from your post; albeit getting a few things off your chest. Personally I'm annoyed by your post. Jytte | |||
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Good luck Stu and get well soon! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Jytte Nothing to get off my chest. I am sorry if you are annoyed. But neither yours nor anyone elses happiness is more important than the future of Stu and his family. Writing what they did, especially the "biting the hand that feeds them" comment is out of line. They did not even take them time to phone Stu or Tim before taking the "high road" and casting Stu aside. Did you know that to date all of what has been written is based on second hand information. If you want to shoot a man down (twice in this case) then have the decency to call him up and tell him that your ego is more important than his family and that because he saw fit to protect himself you are now lo longer interested in his cause and will do what you can to shut down the funding that he currently receives. Propriety be damned, Stu deserves better than that. Lets all take a step back here again and look at the situation. Do you really think that Stu would be considering any action at all if the measures taken by Tim and all involved were sufficient for him to feel his and his family's future were being taken care of? I think not. Anyway, Stu you have my support. Tim, I am not against you, I just hope that you are on the right side of this equation and doing all you can to get Stu what he needs to make it through, by whatever means necessary. Kind regards Ian Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Ian. I don't expect anyone do not wish the very best for Stuart. I certainly do. Having not a clue as to what has been said or done between parties involved, perhaps doubting you do, I will stand by my initial statement and suggest once more that you apologize to Roland and Saeed. A real shame if you don't. Kind regards Jytte | |||
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Ian, I think both of your posts are the 2 best on this thread and more than appropriate. The "donators" and their fans on this site are more focused on what they did than why they did it, it is truly pathetic. | |||
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Don't you dare call me pathetic. And don't ridicule the people who made a difference for Stuart. Jytte | |||
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So sayeth the person who probably doesn't know most of the donors (certainly not me), their feelings, or their motivations. Of course that's right after he finished admonishing people for making comments and judgements about a situation without themselves knowing the people involved or the situation surrounding it. Same old………  Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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I was going to say exactly this same thing a while ago... And again, how is it that so many feel CB's BK suit is okay but Stu's is not? I heard many time "We are all just one mistake/hiccup/accident away from BK." Hmmm...a cataclysmic event certainly struck Stu. Why is he judged differently? Is he supposed to accept what we offer even if it doesn't make him whole or close to it? Funny, it was through CBs own actions that he got himself in trouble, yet many treated him as a victim. Stu is the victim here but he is treated like a leper. I don't get it. | |||
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Hey mej, if the shoe fits, wear it.
You know bret, your right, most of the people here I only know their internet persona, which the ones I was talking about are first rate monsters. As far as your "feelings", I don't give 2 squirts of urine about. As far as the people I am "admonishing", I can only see the "motivations" they publish on this forum, which are pretty clear. I sat silently and watched those people say horrible things about the victim of this fiasco because he accepted their "charity" and then continued on with trying to put his life back together. I watched those monsters say publicly that Stu should accept what they give him and nothing else, that he was "biting the hand that feeds" by "suing their friend". The whole time I was wondering, how do these people know what Stu is spending his money on? How do they know that he has paid an attorney and it is not on contingency (not that it matters). Then Saeed and Larry Shores got here and publicly stated that they had confirmed that Stu had used the donated funds to hire an attorney and got everyone fired up about what a scumbag Stu was. Then, a post was made under the premise that it was Stu himself posting under his Fathers name directly refuting what was said, and not one of you cowards said a word about the horrible, libel things that had been said about the ONLY person who has truly been hurt in this ordeal. You pathetic wastes think your hunts and trips and trophies and bragging about them on this forum are what matters. Another man and his family hang in the balance, that is real life bret, not a trip, not a hunt, a potential lifetime of hardship and pain caused by anothers deed. Did those who donated to help him do a kind thing no matter what their motivations? Absolutely. Does that excuse their shameful, pathetic behavior when they treated Stu like a dog for not eating what they gave him and agreeing it was enough, absolutely not. So, I stand by my statement and offer no apologies.
Good post AAZ, the reason you "don't get it" is because it is completely inconsistent and doesn't make any sense. The people claiming the things you are talking about, are living a fantasy online and forgetting that these are real people and real situations, at least that s what I like to believe. Because if they actually grasp the reality and pain involved and continue acting the way they do, they are sociopaths. | |||
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Well, I do think if someone donated to the fund thinking it was going to help Stu they have every right to be upset if the funds are used for legal stuff - that wasn't the intent of fund. Personally, it doesn't faze me what Stu does with my puny donation but that doesn't mean everyone feels the same way I do. I do question why the legal action itself is so insulting. As the lawyers among us of have said, taking legal action might be the only way to get Tim's insurance to pay for it. And a I said before, if this happened to me and my insurance didn't pay for it, I would be pretty upset. | |||
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But Stu said he has not used any of the funds for legal expenses. So they are upset about a rumor or false statement. They should be upset with the person that started the rumor and those that reiterated the false accusations. | |||
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"I would like to assure all the donors who have contributed so generously that their donations have never been used to pay a lawyer. The funds have been used solely for my rehabilitation and living expenses for myself, my trackers and families. Once again I would like to portray my sincere thanks." Best regards, Stu Taylor Stu just stated that NO money donated to him was used for legal proceedings blah blah. Some one not yet named has stated that Stu told him that Stu DID USE some of the donated money for legal pro- ceedings in some way. Either Stu or the unnamed person has made a false statement. SO WHO IS IT???!!!???!!! {I've no problem with Stu doing what he has to, in order to financially recuperate.} D/R Hunter Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal... | |||
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I would bet it is the un-named person that may not exist, not the person who was shot in the back protecting his client. | |||
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I honestly don't care. Whoever did so is either someone who tried to help Stu, or Stu himself. Hard to be upset with either party IMO. Let's face it, Stu probably doesn't have one account set up for his treatment and another for legal fees, with no co-mingling of funds. | |||
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Stu, don't know you personally and only stumbled onto this thread but want to wish you well in your recovery and life... | |||
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