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Ruger has introduced a new beefed up cartridge: the .375 Ruger. Reports appear to give a thumbs up and I took a look at their new rifles on Rugers web site. I really like the looks of their Alaskan model. Retail price is $1,095. My only concern is ammo. I imagine it will be some time before you can find cartridges. I didn't see any listed on Midway or Cabela's last night. Anyone tried one yet?


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Boddington did a review on it for Sports Afield or one of those mags. Check over on 24 hr campfire, they had a thread with the link on it.


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Posts: 1051 | Location: The Land of Lutefisk | Registered: 23 November 2002Reply With Quote
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Another product DOA, just like the 375 RUM. There is just no need for it.
 
Posts: 18352 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah USA | Registered: 20 April 2002Reply With Quote
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Just thinking but will anyone know what the figures would be if one used a 380gr bullet like rhino? Would it be close or the same to a 416 I don't have an ballistic program so I wouldnt know.

Then if it does equal the 416 why make something new when the 375, 416 was never broken?


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Posts: 2552 | Location: Pretoria, Gauteng, South Africa | Registered: 06 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Just thinking but will anyone know what the figures would be if one used a 380gr bullet like rhino? Would it be close or the same to a 416 I don't have an ballistic program so I wouldnt know.

Then if it does equal the 416 why make something new when the 375, 416 was never broken?


Variety my friend variety.

If we stuck to logic, all we would need to kill all the Big Five is the 375 H&H.

And that is only because it is the smallest legal caliber.


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Hornady has a 1 page spread on the 375 Ruger in February's Guns & Ammo mag. Here's their blurb:

"Hornady has created one of the most practical, hard-hitting cartridges ever for large and dangerous game"
"When a new cartridge bears the names of two American shooting sports legends, it had better be something special. Hornady's new 375 Ruger is just that! This newly designed powerhouse is slightly larger in diameter than the 30-06, but shares the same case overall length, which means it can be chambered in ANY standard length action. All this and it still out performs the 375 H&H but with a 20" barrel."

Now, do they picture a side-by-side graphic comparison with the H&H? No!!! They list the 3 different ammo charts that they are making; 270gr SP-RP, 300gr RN, and 300gr FMJ-RN. Here's the kicker--they list the velocity, energy and trajectory tables for muzzle, 100yards, 200 yards, and then all the way out to 300 yards. No need to get into harm's way when yer totin' this new caliber.

Yes folks, that's what this world has come too, advertizing exectutives who, without a doubt, want you to know right off the bat that this is a real killer all the way out to 300 yards.

Or maybe they intend on promoting it as a varmint caliber. Dassies look out!!!
 
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slightly larger in diameter than the 30-06, but shares the same case overall length, which means it can be chambered in ANY standard length action


Seems a 'niche' for a manufacturer to look into.

Keep rolling out the new stuff, guns, ammo etc...
It's all good.
 
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Yes folks, that's what this world has come too, advertizing exectutives who, without a doubt, want you to know right off the bat that this is a real killer all the way out to 300 yards.

Or maybe they intend on promoting it as a varmint caliber. Dassies look out!!!


Or maybe they understand that some folks might want/need to shoot something at 250 or 300 yds (which is not unheard of nor THAT unreasonable of a distance). Every ammo company produces standard trajectory tables for cartridges, often out to 500 yds. They have a trajectory chart for the 458 Lott out to 300 yds also. Are they promoting that one as a varmint caliber too? Anyone can do a side-by-side comparison - the info is all out there.

I think the 375 Ruger is a great idea, and I hope it catches on. Just because something is new doesn't mean it is bad. If someone does not have any .375 caliber rifle at all, the options are now one better when you are shopping. I likely wouldn't trade in my 375 H&H for one, but if shopping for something I didn't have, it'd be my top choice right now.


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Posts: 759 | Location: St Cloud, MN | Registered: 17 January 2005Reply With Quote
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand the negative sentiment towards this caliber. It's beltless, which pleases the belt-haters on the site, it fits in a standard length action - which are very plentiful, it is immediately being chambered by a major manufacturer, it has enough performance for any game on the planet, and it will more than likely be very inexpensive to feed. What's not to like? Why would you not want to take a shot at 300 yards with the caliber? I wouldn't hesitate for a second to shoot something that far away. Hell, if it were the only rifle available, I WOULD shoot varmints with it. Don't tempt me...


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Posts: 1225 | Location: Gilbertsville, PA | Registered: 08 December 2005Reply With Quote
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My first reaction was to question why they just didn't "legitimize" the .375 Dakota. The Dakota and the Ruger look like kissin' cousins, with a slight performance advantage going to the Dakota round.


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My first reaction was to question why they just didn't "legitimize" the .375 Dakota. The Dakota and the Ruger look like kissin' cousins, with a slight performance advantage going to the Dakota round.


The .375 RGR is getting the press and attention that the Dakota never got.

Who knows, maybe this will open a few eyes to the .375 Dakota?
 
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Another product DOA, just like the 375 RUM. There is just no need for it.


there is no need for a hyper 375 but a std or short action 375 that will do the 300@ 2400-2500 is needed.

where the ruger will shine is handloads at h+h velocities and 350 gr and 210's imho cigar


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Here's the info on Hornady's web site:
http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=482

The ammo is "Coming Soon" - just like their .416 Rigby
https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_session=1d9ecc7741d3a8...3e23134fe071652b2a18


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Saeed is right...its variety guys...

If need was the issue...

We would have the 22 LR

The 243 Win

The 30-06

Maybe the the 300 Win Mag


The 375 HH


The 458 Win Mag


Everything else would never have been invented


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1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Another product DOA, just like the 375 RUM. There is just no need for it.


there is no need for a hyper 375 but a std or short action 375 that will do the 300@ 2400-2500 is needed.



Why? Are there a whole bunch of guys out there whose arms are 3/16" too short and therefore cannot operate a Model 70 action?
 
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It's variety for sure like a mod 70 in 458WM to save the day and steal the show! Great Winchester brass easily available.If there is no good brass available then what good is the caliber?
 
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I just might make that my once and for all,all around rifle.
 
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This will be very popular with the custom rifle folks. Means you can have a 375 in the readily available Mauser action (acknowledged by PHs as the best DG action) for DG without compromising the strength of the action. Maybe 4 down in a standard magazine (not sure about that yet). Added plus for reloaders is the non-belted round. Probably feeds better than belted too. Tons of bullet choice... I think it's here to stay, with Ruger and Hornady behind it. The only question is the size of the market...you don't need a 375 for NA except perhaps Grizzly Bear and that's 50 rifles a year. But with so much hunting available in Africa now, there's a steady demand for it.

We will offer this caliber in our Bad Boy EZ Kits as soon as we can get a reamer. Right now we offer the 375 Taylor and will do the H&H but that requires quite a bit of extra action work hence an upcharge.


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The most significant milestone this cartridge makes is it is .532 magnum bolt face size brass without the belt. This is it's greatest contribution, not that it is just another neat 375 cartridge. Doing faster, shorter or even beltless won't ensure this cartridges' success. But being an original new parent cartridge makes it very interesting indeed.

This will make existing rifles in 7mm Rem Mag and 338 Win Mag very attractive and COST effective to rebarrel. This also screams for the 7mm Ruger and 338 Ruger to be legitimized and standardized quickly. Or we will have the same confusion and variation that already exists with 338-06 and 375 Whelen. The temptation to simply re-chamber to a "7mm Ruger" or "338 Ruger will be great.

I also feel many will be chomping at the bit for a 416 version very soon.
 
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The most significant milestone this cartridge makes is it is .532 magnum bolt face size brass without the belt. This is it's greatest contribution, not that it is just another neat 375 cartridge. Doing faster, shorter or even beltless won't ensure this cartridges' success. But being an original new parent cartridge makes it very interesting indeed ... I also feel many will be chomping at the bit for a 416 version very soon.


Well said by TheBigGuy.

The brand new case deserves a brand new bullet caliber too: .395 Ruger

Change that "7" to a "9" on the headstamp.

It just doesn't get any better than that for a wildcatter. thumb

Now, how does this relate to African Hunting? Wink
 
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Gotta agree with the last two posts (does that make me a me2er?). I've order my LH Ruger, and will get another barrel in .395.
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