If I take the owner of that rifle to the thornbush I've been hunting two weeks ago he must consider himself lucky if at least one of the horns of the ram in the stock is left.

It seems taken from an egyptian grave...maybe it's Tutankamon's rifle!!

L

500,

If you scrolled down the "gold plated" thread you would see those Wbys were 264 WM and 284 WM.

Two Wbys that never made it factory status. The 264 is the 257 necked up and the 284 is the 7mm/300 Wby.

Some more trivia. Dod you know that Roy Weatherby never fired a 460 and had no interest. It came out just because of the old laws that required 40 cal minimum. That is understandable if you think about it because the 460 is not a high velocity calibre where as you know a 378 is 300 mag stuff but bigger bullets.

I have never seen any pictures of Elgin Gate's Wbys but those that exist I believe are only black and white.

Mike

Those are some great looking rifles.

Days of old

http://www.scifirstforhunters.org/images/db/static/jan05_safari/weatherby1.jpg

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Mike, these pictures look like the minue at a royal Whore house in India, or Jamaca! BLING, and PAINT! I would bet the car 500grains posted has a three gun rack with fake fur to hold these things for the ride down a West LA street!

Mac,

I love them.

Mike

I think I'm gonna be sick.

Actually I like the lowrider 500gr posted, it's a unique artform.

The rifles however are just plain tacky.

I think you all miss the point. The rifles are an excellent illustration of what skill and materials can be turned into with the wrong inspiration. Kind of like having Frank L. Wright design a concentration camp or Carrol Shelby design a station wagon. you get the idea.

There is something I like to say, usually about stupid people, but I'll adapt for this. "if there were no ugly guns we'd have no way of appreciating the beautiful ones."

Red

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Originally posted by Dago Red:
I think you all miss the point. The rifles are an excellent illustration of what skill and materials can be turned into with the wrong inspiration. Kind of like having Frank L. Wright design a concentration camp
Red

Red, Just as an aside, Frank Lloyd WRite may not have done a concentration camp, but he did do a gas station in Cloquet, Minnesota - still in operation.... Always interesting to stop there.

Brent

Red,

Not really. Mikes the kind of guy who'd go to a black tie function dressed as a pimp, just to get a rise out of folks. That was his intention

I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I can see wright doing a gas station, kind of like guys that get full blown customs built on rem700's! let's see how much trouble that causes!

Red

Like em or not, it took alot of skill to make those gaudy rifles, perhaps more than it does to make a classic-style?

Paul,

There is no doubt that many of us fancy Wby fans get some additional enjoyment because so many people hate them.

What I find interesting with rifle appearance and like of dislike is that much of it is based on what someone thinks a rifle should look like.

For example, non shooters tend to be very attracted to the fancy Wbys.

We have an aluminium bench rest stock in Australia that is based in shape on the old Rem 40 X stocks and it is a skeleton except for the action area. They are pained different colours and have a space gun look. Non shooters just love the look of them.

A couple of months ago I emailed some pictures to a non shooter but one who has a small general interest in guns. I included flash Wbys, H&Hs and some of the custom stuff from Champlins etc. He thought the Wbys would have cost 10 times as much as the others an thought the H&H bolt actions were el cheapos.

You see a similar thing with calbres. The 416 Rigby is seen as wonderful compared to the 416 Re because it is rimless and will do the 2400 with low pressures. The 375 Rem Ultra on that basis should be seen as the a better thing than the 375 H&H but just the opposite applies.

Mike

The conservative Wby

http://www.hendershots.net/images/gunroom/w375-5.jpg

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Originally posted by Mike375:
The conservative Wby

http://www.hendershots.net/images/gunroom/w375-5.jpg

Not bad at all.....looks great.....but it's still a Weatherby!!!

Mike,
Yep thats our boy, but with guns like that, RIP will surly rip him off!

Mike,

It really is a personal preference thing. I wouldn't say I hate Wetherbies, I'm sure some here do, but I would say they aren't my style, especially the very "stylized" ones. I don't like Cadilacs either

To each his own...

...I like the "calssics" done right, not those gawdy 70's looking "things"!

That said I just took delivery of the goofiest CZ-550 .416 you've ever seen (croc scenes engraved all over the place on the thing) - oh well, gotta cut loose sometimes!

I have pics if somebody will post them for me.

JW

JW

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Originally posted by Jeff Wemmer:
To each his own...

...I like the "calssics" done right, not those gawdy 70's looking "things"!

That said I just took delivery of the goofiest CZ-550 .416 you've ever seen (croc scenes engraved all over the place on the thing) - oh well, gotta cut loose sometimes!

I have pics if somebody will post them for me.

JW

JW

JW I would love to see those pics !! I turn my cz's into Hybrid Weatherby's !!

PC,

I think you have a bit of Weatherby in you because you likes the ones wih the diamond shaped inlays and the DGRs


Mike

that is ooooogleeeeee! yeaaaalch! i feel dirty

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Originally posted by Mike375:
PC,

I think you have a bit of Weatherby in you because you likes the ones wih the diamond shaped inlays and the DGRs


Mike

I may have to Mike........I think cz need to manufacture there own special line of "Porn Star DGR's"

bonerific!

looowwww rriiiiddeeerrrr get a little lower!!

wea-ther-by... get a little HIGHER

jeffe

PC,

One of the blokes that goes to our range has one of the early Crown Customs when they did them in the birds eye maple and has the blue inlays and fish scale checkering. He steels the whole show whenever he turned up with it. You almost need sunglasses on to look at it.

Mike

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Mike,
Yep thats our boy, but with guns like that, RIP will surly rip him off!

... and that reminds me of the McMillan Mark V Wby stock I was fitting to the .378 Wby CZ 550 Magnum Safari rechamber... something PC might appreciate ... when it is done, that will be worth a picture, but not a thousand words.

For the record, I find the Wby stocks great for recoil, like the CZ Lux/Hogback, they just don't have the Old World charm of a Lux.

Mike's taste in guns is flash as a brick dunnie.
The pimpmobile is a great analogy.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
looowwww rriiiiddeeerrrr get a little lower!!

wea-ther-by... get a little HIGHER

jeffe

"All my friends know the Mark Fi-ver
The Mark Fi-ver is a little higher
Mark Fi-ver drives a little faster
Mark Fi-ver is a real blaster

Mark Fi-ver knows every beast yeah!
Mark Fi-ver brings home the meat yeah!
Mark Fi-ver use too much gas now
Mark Fi-ver, she drive too fast

Take a little trip,
Take a little trip,
Take a little trip and see . . .

Take a little trip,
Take a little trip,
Take a little trip with me . . . "

--Roy Weatherby, 1960something

"Why can't we be friends,
Why can't we be friends,
Why can't we be friends . . ."

No wait; right group, but a whole 'nother song!

RIP,

I have a custom compiste in the weatherby style on my cz .416 and it handles recoil very well but as you say does not look like a petitie brunnette..............my .375, 9.3 and .458 lott cz's where there Hogsbacks and they handle like English Bird Guns and are very lively as well as dealing with recoil !!

They work for whatever reason and hence you get the "the only stock to handle recoil is the Darcy Echols, no drop, American wonder stock" crowd vehemntly paying out on every other designs to justify the $$ they paid out

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Originally posted by PC:
RIP,

I have a custom compiste in the weatherby style on my cz .416 and it handles recoil very well but as you say does not look like a petitie brunnette..............my .375, 9.3 and .458 lott cz's where there Hogsbacks and they handle like English Bird Guns and are very lively as well as dealing with recoil !!

They work for whatever reason and hence you get the "the only stock to handle recoil is the Darcy Echols, no drop, American wonder stock" crowd vehemntly paying out on every other designs to justify the $$ they paid out

PC,
You are so right about the priggish Lux naysayers.
I know how the various stocks on a CZ handle and feel in recoil. For example:
My .375 Lapua is a CZ 550 Magnum with fluted Dan Lilja barrel in an ArmTec stock, a synthetic similar to the Bell&Carlson, with some aluminum pillars. I also have a McMillan stock on a CZ. I have two, soon to be three "American" style CZ stocks. None are as sweet handling as the Lux/Hogback, and I have 8 rifles so stocked and luv 'em.

Keep a stiff upper lip and carry the Hogback with pride.

The scalliwags who poo-poo the Hogback are perverts with mental intolerance of recoil. They have been told that Hogbacks hurt their tender shoulders and faces, so they believe it, and suddenly it is true in their little minds.

Hi All
I got this weatherby of a mate could you guys give me some info on it (sporter, deluxe,ect)and any idea on its age? I got a heap of reloads with it some of the packets are dated 1982 thats when the ammo was reloaded, The barrel is 24inch..

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Cheers
Steve

RIP

They have to beleive that there echolbreedingolsonde'vries rifle will exhibit THAT much more in every respect, reality is thats not so once bugs are ironed out from your avergage rifle they are fine.

I can make this statement with confidence as I have a rifle that is being built by an Aussie Smith whom is the equal of any smith in the states and it will in the end cost me a pretty fortune......but my factory rifles with bugs ironed out by the same smith for much less than one of his super custom jobs WILL work as well as my pinky finger custom number period. And to state otherwise is fruitless IMHO.

I know which rifles I would rather have a fall with

Long live the hogsback

Steve,

If go here

http://www.weatherbycollectors.com/

and post the first parts of the serial number they will give you age of rifle. If its starts with H then its a Howa made Deluxe.

For $50 Weatherby will give you more details such as date made and who it was first sold to.

Mike

Thank you for that info mike375

Steve

Very Artistic