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01 August 2007, 19:32
SGraves155
Buffalo Hunt in Argentina
As Juan and alberto have mentioned, we had a marvelous hunt in Argentina, harvesting birds, hogs, goat, capybara, Yarara', and 3 very fine buffalo. I have posted some of the story on the "Hunts in the Rest of the World" forum, but wished to put some of my favorite pictures here.
Yarara" Juan almost stepped on.

Fangs of the Yarara'


Lion tracks

third buff


First buff--good stalk


Gauchos at the river with all 3 buff



Giant Old Murrah-type cow--ear marking from when released 26 years previously. Only the oldest gaucho rememberd that they had earmarked buff driven down form Formosa Province many years ago.



Young gaucho boy--shoed us the way to where the others were


My Horse


Fernando. Visible wound on shoulder is exit of final shot into sternum as bull was down and rolled


Alberto, me, Fernando with cow


Juan and Andreas with my Merkel 375 Double


Very Enjoyable Hunt.


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01 August 2007, 20:49
Charles_Helm
Great pictures, although some of those hats... Eeker

Looks like a great hunt.


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01 August 2007, 23:59
Jim Manion
Looks like one heck of a good time! With some nice trophies to boot!

Was it Juan's idea to bury those poor buffalo up to heads in the picture by the river? Big Grin


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02 August 2007, 02:14
juanpozzi
Yes that was my idea how you know...We have had a wonderful time ,two great stalks one in capibara one in a lonely bull,Steven is in great shape and thats helps a lot because when you have a limited time and hunt in totally wild areas unfenced places if you fail that stalk perhaps you lost your only oportunity ,so we move very very slowly like snipers and hopefully Steven dindt missed a shot ,hes very well,trained with his merkel .HE SAVED MY LEG WITH THIS YARARA THANKS STEVEN .AND IF I CAYCH THAT LION IT WILL BE DEDICATED TO YOU.


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02 August 2007, 02:19
juanpozzi
In the photos with the camo suit and the buffalo alone is PAYO one of my guides full of 9mm holes i repaired sometime ago, in the last one with me is Andres an md and airborne officer who guides fo us too.Juan


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02 August 2007, 03:12
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Congrats Steve on your hunt and success. The Yarara looks like it would make a great hat band or belt. Email me sometime and I will tell you how to make a simple tanning solution. Good hunting, David


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02 August 2007, 03:14
Lorenzo
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Congrats to all hunters and guides !!!!
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02 August 2007, 03:50
billinthewild
Thanks for the fine photos. The "yarara" is a new snake for me and one I am glad not to have ever met in the field. I understand they can be quite aggressive.

The buff are fine, and I really like the old cow with the curly horn. The gaucho saddles looked quite comfortable. Did you get a hat to bring back?

Tell us what ammo, or handloads, you used in the Merkel.

Memorable hunt with great people. Good on ya.... thumb

This is a picture of Juan digging the holes to put the buffalo bodies in.... diggin


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02 August 2007, 04:33
SGraves155
Bill, I had a few 300 gr NorthFork cup-point solids for the first bull, then went to 300 gr Federal Nosler Partitions. On the capybara, I borrowed Willy's 1909 Argentine Mauser in 375H&H with a scope, and used his 300 gr silvertips. We left some of the gauchos butchering the buffalo, and I regretfully can not report on penetration/expansion--but they all seemed to work.
a few more picts:

The dogo Lanhuel:


The capybara


Group of riders



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02 August 2007, 08:10
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Excellent pics !!! Cool Cool Cool


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02 August 2007, 18:30
juanpozzi
Martin did you see the photos of the tracks its the same farm where we saw that giant lion with Bill and we have been hunting with you the same family of lion when you came we will put a bait there with a live lamb.
Ill go the the gun show with some of the members of los dogos group .Steven won the patch ,please Steven can you show the patch .Juan


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02 August 2007, 19:15
SGraves155
Juan, I will post a photo of the hat and the patch tonite.


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02 August 2007, 20:21
billinthewild
Thanks for the additional pictures....Lanuel is a wonder dog. A gentle giant, but when the time comes, he is unstoppable. I would imagine the cartridges you mentioned would work very well. I have used Nosler partitions in 260 grain, but in the .375 I believe the 300 is preferable.

Juan, nice to know that lion still lives. And give Lanuel, Esquel, and the other a pat for me. Keep the beer cold and the parilla hot....
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04 August 2007, 02:49
juanpozzi
Steven said thats the lion is for you as you saw it first we will try to hunt it with you i hope not to bitted by a yarara there.Steven this is one site of battalion 32 www.battalion32.net put in google selous scouts and there is an intersing site with tracking manuals ,coin ,and operating manuals as most of your PHs in Africa are ex operators you will find it intersting .Tomorrow we will try to find the lion one of the guys will cover terrain with a sniper tikka tactical but we are 10 hunters.Juan


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04 August 2007, 03:03
juanpozzi
Steven i recommend you the book Nyati by the african hunter team ,when we returned from our expeditios i found it at my hospital a nice present by my friend DON HEATH .jUAN


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04 August 2007, 03:16
mfischer
Congratulations Steven for a wonderful adventure ,i worked for LOS DOGOS in Esquina and im member of the group ,indeed we designed the patch with Cristian ,Juan and Afrikaader .Iknow Juan from the 12 years old when i was in the military school and he was a well known rifle champion ,he introduced me later in hunting and guiding althoug i cannot hunt as he hunts i always trains shooting as he adviced me ,here everybody is or was trained by him ,the cops ,military,hunters etc hes an expert on rifle ,pistol or shotgun ,sometime ago i go with him to a combat shooting match in RAFAELA SANTA fE he wasnt competing since a lot of years ago and he never competed in that speciality called FBI shooted with snubbies BUT HE WON THE STATE MATCH ,then he won the rifle match too.Ispook with one of his trainers a commando called cap.Vives and he saind nobody can winn him in the army ,so one time he lost ,they put in his rifle training ammo ....BUT I BELIEVE SOMEDAY ILL WIN HIM WITH MY OPEN SIGTHED CZ375HYH ,do you remeber afrikaader my shot to the nandues.Marcos


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04 August 2007, 08:13
Afrikaander
I remember that shot perfectly well, Marcos !!!
A nandu some two hundred meters away, shot with a CZ 375 H&H with open sights .... thumb

And I must admit that since that time I learnt to appreciate the nice taste of the "picanas" (nandues' tails)... perhaps we might spend sometime hunting together soon again, both with you and Juan !!!


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04 August 2007, 19:01
CaneCorso
Congratulations on the successful hunt!

Juan, I am looking forward to the patch for my hat...


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06 August 2007, 04:43
juanpozzi
David the hunt is like you like in an extreme wild place ,you need 3 or 4 hours it depends on the weather and the rivers to be near the area of the hunt very few people hunt here .The hat is designed for the knife hunters ,Steven hunted hog wirth knife in Hawaii and here he ver hesitated in killing the boar.Juan SI VIS PACE PARA BELLUM.


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07 August 2007, 04:06
mfischer
Do you know how juan use to hunt buffalos when he was very young and not famous ,-i believe many here can testified this- he released his dogo in the swaps the old bulls inmediately charged the dog and him and he shot a lot of buffalos at 10 mts with an old cz375hyh ,his cz 308with fmjs ....a very intersting to hunt a buffalo bull ,i saw photos of PAIMUN hanging from the nose of a buffalo.
Bill all the members of los dogos are waiting you .


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08 August 2007, 07:12
SGraves155
Marcos, I wish we had met while I was in Argentina. glad to have you on board.

Here's a few more picts.


Gaucho on the plains.



Teeth of the Carpincho



Penis of capy pushed from common cloaca



Juan Retreiving Capybara


Butchering buffalo


Marcos and Africaander, when I had put two shots thru the chest of the first buffalo, it turned to charge us. Juan put a 45/70 thru the middle of its chest, which staggered it. Then his gun jammed, and I was able to reload and put two more into him, which was his finish.


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09 August 2007, 03:49
mr rigby
Wonderfull report , that was an fine hunt in an fine country, and wonderfull pictures you had there.

I`m looking forward to the day i can set my foot on las Pampas with the rifle in hand and Bowie in the sheath .
12 August 2007, 19:59
juanpozzi
Steven thank you for the photos ,and i can say that every charge that i experimented its unforgetable.That bull charged us because we surprised him at very close distance .I performed surgeries in hunter and farmers attacked by cebues and buffalos and i can assure thats a serious thing ,i also saw a destroyed dogo by a bull ,so i stalk so close only when i know that the hunter is a real expert .Juan


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13 August 2007, 03:14
Buglemintoday
Excellent report and great pictures!

Thanks for sharing


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16 August 2007, 04:23
Guillermo Amestoy
Mr.Graves,Juan, Willy: Congratulations!!!! clap clap clap Very nice hunt !!! really wild, true ??? A few years ago I hunted my first water-buffalo with Juan and Paimun (Lanhuels Father) and I will never forget that aventure, it was more exciting than a recent bisont hunt in South Dakota, and in Corrientes the hunters really feel hunting like Africa´s old times. See all soon, Regards,Guillermo.


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16 August 2007, 04:40
Guillermo Amestoy
Some pictures from that fantastic adventure with Juan, the great warrior Paimun and my noble 416 rigby.The enviroment:
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the friends and the trophy:
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The lethal hit(Barnes 410grs)[IMG:left] [/IMG]:
Me and Paimun:
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Munchi; I really miss you !!! I have some hair from you in my hunting field coat and in my old car.
Juan, Munchi(Paimun),and Gordillo!!!
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16 August 2007, 23:53
juanpozzi
Guile thanks for the kind words ,it remebers me al the adventures with you ,my cousin ,and the great paimun ,i always miss him ,and ill met him in the valhalla to hunt again ......Juan


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17 August 2007, 00:01
juanpozzi
We are seeing that old photos with Flavia and we both have tears in our eyes ,THANKS AGAIN FOR A TRIBUTE TO A GREAT WARRIOR FROM ANOTHER WARRIOR .juan


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18 August 2007, 20:29
SGraves155
Guillermo, thanks for the picts. Paimun must have been a remarkable dogo. Lanhuel and Esquel did us very well, too. And of course, Africa is a top-of-the-ranks retriever---she understands everything. Very nice horns on your buff.

Juan, will you measure the buffalo we got? Let me know the scores if you do so.


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22 August 2007, 00:33
juanpozzi
I dindnt received the heads yet when i receive them ill measure SCI score.
Both LANHUEL and ESQUEL are PAIMUN sons .Juan


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30 August 2007, 17:08
wildpork
I sure wish I was there! Hopefully soon stir
04 September 2007, 04:15
juanpozzi
Dear friends this is a poem to the dogos i think you would appreciate.
EL VIEJO DOGO
ACERCASE LAMIENDOME LA MANO
Y SE TIENDE A MIS PIES PAUSADAMENTE
TIENE SUENO MI PERRO INTELIGENTE
MI VIEJO GLADIADOR CORDILLERANO
SE HA DORMIDO SONANDO EN UN LEJANO
PAISAJE CETRERIL PORQUE ES VALIENTE
Y SUENA CON UN DUELO A GARRA Y DIENTE
EN EL MALLIN BOSQUE O PANTANO
VIEJO DOGO DESCANSA QUE YA ES HORA,
MIENTRAS MI GRATITUD TE CONDECORA ,
Y EN EL ARMINO DE TU PIEL SIN BRUMAS
GRAVARONTE CORALES Y RUBIES
CON DAGAS DE MARFIL LOS JABALIES
Y CON TRIDENTES DE CAREY LOS PUMAS.
A,NORES MARTINEZ


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05 September 2007, 06:01
billinthewild
Juan
In English is this close?

THE OLD DOGO
APPROACHED LICKING MY HAND
AND PAUSES AT MY FEET
MY INTELLIGENT DOG SLEEPS
MY OLD MOUNTAIN GLADIATOR
SLEEPS SOUNDLY IN A DISTANT LANDSCAPE
BECAUSE HE IS BRAVE AND HE SLEEPS WITH
A MOURNING TO CLAW AND TOOTH
IN THE MALLIN FOREST OR OLD SWAMP
THE OLD DOGO RESTS BECAUSE IT IS THE HOUR,
WHILE MY GRATITUDE COMMENDS YOU,

Carajo!!! I gave up here.......more and more I appreciate how difficult it
is to translate from one language to another.


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06 October 2007, 21:30
juanpozzi
Steven ,Bill a great puma was killed near our area by Guillermo Garnero a local young hunter son of a great hunter,the cat killed many calfs the waited for him in one of his kills from 11pm until 1am where he appeared was killed with a 12 auto and slugs and moonligth ,its a huge cat ,our catcontinues in the same place .Juan


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07 October 2007, 23:09
nainital
Bill: very close to center. Your translation is almost perfect. Wink
09 October 2007, 07:56
Afrikaander
quote:
Originally posted by nainital:
Bill: very close to center. Your translation is almost perfect. Wink


Ditto.... Congratulations !!

In fact, you even curse like anyone of us... carajo !!! Big Grin Big Grin


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08 November 2007, 05:20
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Great pics.




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01 May 2013, 04:35
mfischer
just reposting because an iliterate stupid selfish guy said that Juan hasnt big game experience . Roll Eyesi forgot to tell that hes a famous outdoor writer too


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02 May 2013, 10:13
billinthewild
quote:
Originally posted by mfischer:
just reposting because an iliterate stupid selfish guy said that Juan hasnt big game experience . Roll Eyesi forgot to tell that hes a famous outdoor writer too


Marcos, thanks...brings back some fond memories...see you soon. Do you ever hear any more from Graves? Is Willy still in San Francisco?


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