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Picked up my first Ruger No 1
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It's one of those guns that I've always wanted. It's 1970's model that I bought off the original owner who says that he hasn't shot it since 1980 and it has exactly 18 rounds through it. He gave me the the box of 140 grain Winchester ammunition with the two loaded rounds and 18 empty cases.

Nice piece of walnut on it also.





I noticed when I bought it that he had the Leupold 4X scope mounted incorrectly (rotated 90 degrees).

Just the sort of lightweight deer gun that I've been looking for.


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Nice looking rifle, what caliber? If you tell me it's a .280 Remington, I'll tell you that I am extremely jealous.


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That is a gorgeous rifle. I've never owned a Number one...but such a pretty example at a decent price in that kind of condition might cause me to add one. You've done well.
Still curious about caliber though..
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Sorry about that guys, it's a 270 Win.


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Now you've done it!!!!

I've also always wanted a No. 1 and finally picked up an early 70's 7x57. Now I own 7 No.1's. they are addictive!!!!


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Very nice! A No. 1 is next on my list.


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Nice!
 
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Handsome Red Pad ! Now you'll be getting the fever
 
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Thanks for the comments all. I bought a set of dies off of Hawkeye47 in the Classifieds here now I just have find some components to load up.

I've never had a 270 before so I'm starting from scratch. I think I'll just a build a deer/antelope load up with either the 110 or 130 grain TTSX and see how it does.


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Excellent choice on bullets, IME I'd go with the 130. The Ballistic Sivertip is also very accurate and deadly on deer sized game. Try lots of 4350 over a CCI 250.

Notice you rifle is a 1B with the fat fore end.

IMO the No. 1 is more handsome when given the more classic British look with the AH fore end, barrel band sling band and a front sight. (which can also be functional with a "peep" that fits the Ruger scope base).

This No 1 was a 1B 30-06 "red pad" converted to 300 H&H, fore end changed and (rare) King reflector front sight added. The Leupold 6X is a perfect scope for this rig as it is light, low and perfect for anything I'd hunt with it.

Just an FYI and my 2 cents. Wish I had seen it before you as I don't have a 270 No. 1.





 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fjold:
Thanks for the comments all. I bought a set of dies off of Hawkeye47 in the Classifieds here now I just have find some components to load up.

I've never had a 270 before so I'm starting from scratch. I think I'll just a build a deer/antelope load up with either the 110 or 130 grain TTSX and see how it does.

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Frank,

That's a very early .270; my guess is that it's going to like the 150gr bullets the best. What a great rifle that one is, and with the TTSX in 150gr, you can go after anything in NA since that bullet holds together so well.

By the way, the first rifle I bought for myself with my own money after college was a Ruger #1A in 7x57. Can't believe I traded it. I was young and dumb.

I now own a #1S in .300 H&H, and hunt with it quite a bit for long range work. It's a real shooter.

Good luck with your new rifle.[/


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fjold:
Thanks for the comments all. I bought a set of dies off of Hawkeye47 in the Classifieds here now I just have find some components to load up.

I've never had a 270 before so I'm starting from scratch. I think I'll just a build a deer/antelope load up with either the 110 or 130 grain TTSX and see how it does.

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Frank,

That's a very early .270; my guess is that it's going to like the 150gr bullets the best. What a great rifle that one is, and with the TTSX in 150gr, you can go after anything in NA since that bullet holds together so well.

By the way, the first rifle I bought for myself with my own money after college was a Ruger #1A in 7x57. Can't believe I traded it. I was young and dumb.

I now own a #1S in .300 H&H, and hunt with it quite a bit for long range work. It's a real shooter.

Good luck with your new rifle.[/


Was there a twist rate change at some time - or do all .270 #1s like the heavier bullets?

I’ve got a red pad .270 #1B that has only shot 130g bullets; I need to go try some 150’s


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Insofar as my database shows all 270s were/are 1 in 10" twist. That twist will shoot either 130s or most 150s just fine. Mono metal 150s (like the TTSX) are longer for weight and they do not shoot as well in my No. 1, M70 and 721 (all 1 in 10").
Barnes suggests a 1 in 9.5 OR FASTER twist for the 150s. IMO/E the best 150 out there for 1 in 10" (accuracy and performance on medium game) is the Nosler Ballistic Sivertip (ex Combined Technology) Any 130 monometal will be just as deadly and contrary to what some say, they will shoot very well IF you read and follow the makers instructions.

My No. 1 disease continues. Just scored another African 458 with incredible end to end fiddleback AND fixed the ejection problem in my No. 1 450 Nitro #2 3 & 1/2". Two good things in one day.

Hope you are enjoying your 270 !
 
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With a 1 in 10 twist, that sounds like a 150gr to me. Bumfarto may be correct that the TTSX with its long length may be too much. Nevertheless, I would start with the 150's in some bullet, maybe the partition.


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I have tried the 150 TTSX in all three of my 1 in 10" 270 WCFs with many load combinations and they do not shoot well.
Barnes states on their website that the twist should be 1 in 9.5 or FASTER.

I'm sure there is a point where the 150 overtakes the 130 but it's probably beyond reasonable hunting range for the 270 WCF.

With today's super monometal bullets, a 130 will do at least as well as the unbonded 150s from JOC's day.

The evolution of cartridges like the 6.5x55 and 7x57 from long heavy cup and core bullets to faster high-tech ones are examples of being able to shoot faster and flatter while getting the same performance on game. While not as old, the 270 does go back to when heavier cup and core bullets were the rule. On my ammo shelf is a partial box of 170 gr round nose Western factory loads. The fellow I bought them from (an old timer before I became one) used them as his Elk load "back in the day".
The 7mm08 provides a good modern day example. Balistically it is slightly inferior (in modern guns) to the 7x57, yet folks kill large game with it all the time using premium bullets of 140 and even 120 gr. It is never suggested that a 175 gr is necessary to put down an Elk.

It seems reasonable that what a 140 gr .284 premium bullet will do a 130 gr .277 would also do.

That's my 2 cents on the subject.

As an aside my first real highpower was a 270 WCF built on a VZ24 with a 24" Flaig-Ace barrel in a Heter's stock carrying a K6. Shot the old JOC 4831/150 gr Sierra cup and cores as that was "the load" back in 1958.

Worked fine then probably still would but bullet, primer and powder technology have moved quite a way in 50+ years.
 
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Finally got my Ruger No. 1 (270 Win) out to the range. I threw together a mid range load of 50 grains of H4350 and a 140 grain Barnes TSX. After a quick bore sighting and one shot on paper at 25 yards, I shot four rounds at 100 yards. The gun has a pressure point at the end of the forearm and the trigger is pretty good.

The group on the left is the four, 270 rounds and I'm pretty happy that it shoots a nice group at 1.5" with no load development.

The group on the right is a three shot group with my Ruger 7mm Magnum that I was checking before my pig hunt this weekend.




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I have a nearly new #1B barrel and forearm in 30-06 for sale if you want a spare. It could get to your house for about $125 shipped and insured.

just talkin', is all...
 
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Do you know the twist?
Seems the barrel needs breaking in.


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Standard Ruger twist for a 30-06 is 1 in 10.
 
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I should note that is old information from the 80s. Ruger may have changed their twist in the No. 1 but I doubt it.
 
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I think the #1 is one of the most beautiful production rifles made. Like a drug to me...


 
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Bumfarto, that .300 H&H conversion of yours is just bloody lovely. Must keep the old eye peeled for an 06 donor ...


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Bumfarto, that .300 H&H conversion of yours is just bloody lovely. Must keep the old eye peeled for an 06 donor ...


Heck Bill, I just bought an extra 30.06 barrel and forearm from Rich today.


Frank



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There is a question of who made the barrel that you bought from Rich. What year was it made? You may be a proud owner of a tomato stack. There are reasons why somethings are available.
 
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Mick, I had one of those Ruger tomato stakes on an early thumb-safety M77 in 7X57.

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Mick, I had one of those Ruger tomato stakes on an early thumb-safety M77 in 7X57.

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There is a question of who made the barrel that you bought from Rich. What year was it made? You may be a proud owner of a tomato stack. There are reasons why somethings are available.


Could be but it's something to play with. The worst it can be is that it doesn't fit my receiver. Maybe then it will fit someone else's.

The second worst is that it won't shoot well and that just means that I can play with it some more.

The best thing is that it shoots fine and I have a switch barrel No. 1 in 270 and 30.06.

It all depends on your point of view, either the glass is half empty or it's half full.


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Could be something to play with? Hell, you haven't played with what you have.
 
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It's an addiction. In the last 6 month's bought two more.
- Tropical 450 Nitro #2 3.5"
- Tropical 458 Winchester

added to:

- 1a 7x57
- 1b 300 H&H
- Tropical 375 H&H
- #3 30-40

also 1885s in 25-06 and 45-70.

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Could be something to play with? Hell, you haven't played with what you have.


Mick, you don't know the half of it.

I've got two new rifles in the safe that I've never shot, one of them I've had for three years. I have three half finished stocks and two barrel blanks that are at least three years old.

They keep me out of the bars.


Frank



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I loaded up the 140 grain TSX with H4350 and shot some 3 shot test loads.

50.5 grains went into .550" and .758" Hodgdon says that I should get about 2800 fps with that load and everything up from there opened up the groups.

I was shooting using the tailgate of my truck as a rest with the 3-9X scope. I'll probably put a 24X scope on it and see what it will do when I can hold a smaller aiming point off of a good bench when I chronograph it.




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The No. 1 is a single shot hunting rifle. Nothing more and nothing less. With that said, the 50.5 grain looks like a good starting point.

The No. 1s are very sensitive to barrel timing. The 2 piece stock makes them that way.

Small changes in powder charge makes changes in group size. Forearm tension also makes changes in group size. Multiple shot barrel heating is also a factor in grouping.

You can't “tune a fish” but you can tune a No 1 to shoot very nice.
 
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