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Looking for a gun doctor to put a new front sight on a Winchester 94 and cut and crown the barrel.
I have a 24” barreled 94 with a half magazine so Will Not need any changes to the magazine tube.
Would like the barrel cut back to around 17 or 18 inches and crowned. Need holes drilled and tapped to mount a new sight ramp square and true to the barrel and action.
Anyone up for doing this work in a timely manner?
Thanks, Les
 
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Which tanks were you on? I started with the M60A1, ended on M1s. Also on M551.
 
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Seems to me it would be easier and cheaper to sell trade the rifle for a carbine that all ready has the features you want.

If it is a pre-64 then most defiantly.
 
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A pre 64 with half mag/24 inch barrel is the Model 64, made until 1957. And a pistol grip stock. If it is one of those, NO, do not alter it.
 
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A pre 64 with half mag/24 inch barrel is the Model 64, made until 1957. And a pistol grip stock. If it is one of those, NO, do not alter it.


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And here we go with the armchair idiots.
It is definitely not a model 64!
It is definitely not a pre 64!
It is an NRA commemorative made in 1971 of which I have 2 of. It has the less than desirable sintered finish on the action. It even has the pistol grip and overall does resemble the model 64 but it is not a 64.
Maybe someone could point me in the right direction to accomplish what I want to do with my rifle rather than speculating on what I have and shouldn’t do with it.

As to the question on tanks. It refers to fuel tankers and milk tankers I used to pull down the highway. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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And here we go with the armchair idiots.
It is definitely not a model 64!
It is definitely not a pre 64!
It is an NRA commemorative made in 1971 of which I have 2 of. It has the less than desirable sintered finish on the action. It even has the pistol grip and overall does resemble the model 64 but it is not a 64.
Maybe someone could point me in the right direction to accomplish what I want to do with my rifle rather than speculating on what I have and shouldn’t do with it.

As to the question on tanks. It refers to fuel tankers and milk tankers I used to pull down the highway. Sorry for the confusion.


Well at least your last sentence explains your abusive shit attitude.
 
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Not abusive and not really a shit attitude. Just tired of all the armchair quarterbacks trying to assert their superiority and intellect concerning someone else’s property and their assumption that someone else doesn’t know what they have or the value of said property.

As for your opinion on truck drivers, I guess you are welcome to it, but maybe you shouldn’t talk with your mouth full of milk and cereal or your moped full of gas.
 
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I see franks a helpful as everyone else.
 
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Go play somewhere else!

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You all are being the arrogant a holes, not the OP. The original post listed some very simple work that should be a couple hours work. Only unreasonable aspect of his question was the timely manner part. Timely manner is not something that gunsmiths have been able to get a grasp on since the first blacksmith wrapped some steel around a mandrel and put black powder in the hole. All you guys can do is bash his profession. At least they bust their ass to try and get the job delivered on time. Something most gunsmiths don't seem to be willing to do.

As for collectability, the commemoratives, or instant collectors as dad called them, are worth less than a standard gun in my opinion. Particularly if is is not new in the box.

Les, not in my line of work, but if you would like to PM me I'd be glad to give you a name.

John
 
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Originally posted by gasgunner:
You all are being the arrogant a holes, not the OP. The original post listed some very simple work that should be a couple hours work. Only unreasonable aspect of his question was the timely manner part. Timely manner is not something that gunsmiths have been able to get a grasp on since the first blacksmith wrapped some steel around a mandrel and put black powder in the hole. All you guys can do is bash his profession. At least they bust their ass to try and get the job delivered on time. Something most gunsmiths don't seem to be willing to do.

As for collectability, the commemoratives, or instant collectors as dad called them, are worth less than a standard gun in my opinion. Particularly if is is not new in the box.

Les, not in my line of work, but if you would like to PM me I'd be glad to give you a name.

John


My thoughts as well. The guy just asked a simple question. Being no magazine cuts forward of the forend cap, your work is fairly mundane. I could do it for you but my shop is not set up from our move out from occupied territory. (CA to AZ)
 
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Oh boy ..another fight in a phone booth..Don't take much, does it?
 
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Oh boy ..another fight in a phone booth..Don't take much, does it?


Hardest part is finding a phone booth these days. Big Grin
 
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Thanks Kendog and gasgunner,,
Gasgunner,,I did send a pm.
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Frankly, the comments , in my opinion were simply honest guys trying their best to send up a couple red flags to caution against ruining a valuable Firearm.

The OP should have taken that in the spriit in which it was given. without all the bullshit scolding
 
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This is exactly why Rod quit this forum.
 
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I doubt this conversation would have gone this rout had all involved been standing together in the shop face to face Smiler
 
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Some one posts in a open forum asking for advice.

They get advice.

If it doesn't exactly agree with the what they want to hear.

The get mad.

If one doesn't want advice don't post in a open forum.
 
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Some one posts in a open forum asking for advice.

They get advice.

If it doesn't exactly agree with the what they want to hear.

The get mad.

If one doesn't want advice don't post in a open forum.


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I doubt this conversation would have gone this rout had all involved been standing together in the shop face to face Smiler


You may have pointed out a major problem with a "forum"..It allows anonimity
 
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I can go buy a hacksaw, Christmas tree bit to crown, the $9.99 tin coated drill index, a tap kit, a 19 dollar cordless drill and a bucket for a workbench... do it while you wait at a truckstop near me.. $6,000 cash up front

It will exactly meet the specs of the request and be done "timely"

Oh, you only mentioned "timely" as you primary driver... it will be fast, worse than bubba quality, but it will cost more


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

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I can go buy a hacksaw, Christmas tree bit to crown, the $9.99 tin coated drill index, a tap kit, a 19 dollar cordless drill and a bucket for a workbench... do it while you wait at a truckstop near me.. $6,000 cash up front

It will exactly meet the specs of the request and be done "timely"

Oh, you only mentioned "timely" as you primary driver... it will be fast, worse than bubba quality, but it will cost more


At least there is some humor on here dancing
 
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I can go buy a hacksaw, Christmas tree bit to crown, the $9.99 tin coated drill index, a tap kit, a 19 dollar cordless drill and a bucket for a workbench... do it while you wait at a truckstop near me.. $6,000 cash up front

It will exactly meet the specs of the request and be done "timely"

Oh, you only mentioned "timely" as you primary driver... it will be fast, worse than bubba quality, but it will cost more


Do you give any discounts to AR members? Big Grin
 
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Yes, he does give discounts to AR Members! Here is one he did for me a while back; I got it for only $4000, but I had to pay shipping.
Note the clean rifling at the muzzle; it shoots into one hole. Guaranteed.
Now, do not be alarmed at the front sight base; the duct tape holding it on, allows for easy adjustment if needed. A real innovation here.
Highly recommended!
 
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tom,
that was with the benefit of an old blacksmith's vise -- and that was a work in progress photo -- the next pic had me artfully filling the gaps with loctite blackmax .. and i had a sharpie available for touching up the "crown" but you wouldn't pay for it!!

said jeep paint is fine!


this picture gets worse the more i look at it! there's at leat 2 different tools used to part that barrel off, if you look at the high-grade "texturing" .. bottom half looks like someone tried to part it with some worn out bearing lathe and a rock, the top half has vertical??!?!?!? HOW ..

then the beauty marks on the barrel ..

well, at least they used the good tape


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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Performance is all that matters and it does shoot into one hole every time. I didn't want to pay for rebluing, so, yes, OD green jeep paint will make it look new again.
True, a little more work with the hog bit in a drill would have cleaned up your hacksaw marks. But it's fine as is. Sharp rifling is all that matters here.
 
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Yes, he does give discounts to AR Members! Here is one he did for me a while back; I got it for only $4000, but I had to pay shipping.
Note the clean rifling at the muzzle; it shoots into one hole. Guaranteed.
Now, do not be alarmed at the front sight base; the duct tape holding it on, allows for easy adjustment if needed. A real innovation here.
Highly recommended!


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