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I notice in another thread here there is a discussion of double triggers on Mauser rifles.

I have never understood this. It seems to me that the best trigger on a bolt action rifle -- whther for hunting or any form of target shooting -- is a very crisp, single stage trigger, set at a suitable weight for the shooting at hand. That may be a few ounces for a target rifle, up to several pounds for a hunting rifle.

Why would you want one trigger that you have to pull in order to set up the second one? It seems to me to be a distraction, a source of confusion, and an unnecessary complexity.


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IIRC the set trigger can also fire the round if pulled beyond the set point.

It's an old traditional trigger system and collectible IMO.

I personally have no use for them. Most bolt actions have excellent triggers and no use for a "set" trigger.


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The guns I've messed with have a firing trigger and a set trigger. You can either pull the firing trigger and its a rather heavy, some would say field pull, or pull the set trigger, and then just touch off the firing trigger.

In essence, a field trigger and a target trigger in one gun.

I hate I passed up a nice guild Mauser with set triggers last spring .
 
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A pain in the butt imo, the ones i've used were miles too heavy unset and miles too light set.
Can't see the point in them and I'm not too sure of the need for ultra light triggers for target shooting and over heavy ones for hunting.

Our National long range target shooting requires a trigger wt of 1.5 Kg (3.3lb) and yet my hunting triggers are less.

So it's not me that's out of wack, it's every one else.
And anyway, everything I shoot is a target of sorts?
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When the interest in muzzle loaders began they were making them with set triggers I guess in part for manufacturing reasons .They were terrible ,typically 11 lb unset and 1/2 lb set.One was too heavy for anything and the other too light !!
 
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Set triggers, even single set, generally have a set, which levers a cam (of some sort) to reduce the pull required on the firing trigger.

while some can not be fired without settng, mot of the time, if you pull the firing trigger, "unset" the rifle will fire, but with a heavier pull than "set"

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The standard double set triggers, like The Rancounas, have a "kicker" that links the trigger itself to the sear. When either the unset, or the set trigger blade is pulled, a spring loaded lever hits the "kicker" that diseangages the sear from the cocking piece. If you are getting that this is an involved process, you are right on..Smiler Lock time is SLOW.
They have some nostalgia about them, but are not the best trigger for accuracy.
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It's my understanding this was to be employed in two ways. You used the trigger un-set for quick shots at running game. In this mode you can follow the animal and pull when the time is right without worrying about the gun going off too soon. The trigger is used in the set mode for shot's at un-spooked game.

I bought a BRNO 21H earlier this year with the double set triggers. I'm really looking forward to trying it out in the field. The type of hunting I do rarely if ever requires a jump shot though.

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Actually I use the set trigger for moving game because of less chance of pulling the gun off target at release. I don't know if that was the original intent but it works for me. I shoot an old double trigger Mauser just for fun today but for years I coyote hunted with a canjar trigger that does about the same thing. It does increase lock time but that's a small adjustment with practice.


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