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Yeah, well I work cheaper than Ed. Besides, he put in the previous one. And, it's two R/T ferry rides to Bremerton. Ed suggested maybe a Pacific Tool and Gauge bolt.
 
Posts: 2827 | Location: Seattle, in the other Washington | Registered: 26 April 2006Reply With Quote
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If I had some one fix something and it didn't work, I might be so inclined to - - - - - - bring it back and have it rectified. Then again a lot of times I cut my loses and never go back if I think I made a mistake in bringing it there in the first place. I'm sort of funny that way !

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When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
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I am guessing you are a gunsmith who went to the Colorado School of Trades, a military gunsmithing school or the one in Ferlach, Austria who changes the extractors on thousands of 700s every year.

If none of those is true, I am guessing you are just a forum expert who has a PHD in BS.


I'm guessing you're semi literate.
 
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Actually, now that I read back. There is nothing wrong with the Walker trigger either. The reason so many people get hurt with it is because of: "Customer oriented idiocy" which is brought on by the lack of intelligence.

People insist on setting the trigger below its recommended settings and then proceed to point the muzzle at themselves or someone else (which is not to smart) and then messing around with it and banging it around which causes it to discharge and put a big hole in something, or someone.

The second problem is that people feel they can go for 30 years without cleaning out the trigger and polymerized oil and dirt build up. It gets to the point that when the trigger is pulled, it sticks in the rearward position and when a second round is chambered the sears don't fully catch and it fires on closing. Or, the idiot puts it on safe and then pulls the Trigger which sticks back. When he releases the safe, the gun fires and he kills himself or someone else because he had it pointed that way.

Remington finally said PHUK-Q and started putting in the nice 30 to 40 pound non adjustable lawyer triggers that we see today and Timney is getting rich selling after market triggers.

I'm not super, team-Remington. I'm just sick of people blaming their stupidity on everyone else these days.

OH MY ! Did I just say that?


Failures in Remington triggers have been observed also in new, clean, unmodified Remingtons. Some SWAT teams leave the bolt handle up instead of using the safety because of this. A local team had an AD on a callout related to a faulty Remington trigger and now most of the local teams use AI AWs.
 
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First, thank you all for your comments, even the snarky ones.

(Cue the trumpets.) IT WORKS! (Look Master, it lives.) The embarrassing fact is, I'm not sure why. Maybe I dicked around with it (her) until she just gave up and let me have my way.

That said, I will carry three 9" pieces of 1/4" rod stock in my day pack.

I hope I provided sufficient comic relief to compensate you all for your help.
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Failures in Remington triggers have been observed also in new, clean, unmodified Remingtons. Some SWAT teams leave the bolt handle up instead of using the safety because of this. A local team had an AD on a callout related to a faulty Remington trigger and now most of the local teams use AI AWs.


I'm pretty sure that they reserve all the faulty ones for police and swat teams. Since 12 to 21 years of age and 35 years after that of handling firearms professionally for 8 hours per day I have never had an uncontrolled round in any firearm other than a few semi controlled rounds in semi automatic, rifles, pistols and shotguns that went full auto in the test fire tank.

I have had triggers fail in testing without live ammo, but only because they had been tapered with by closet repairmen or from being gummed up with dirt and polymerized oil. In 15 years of doing Remington warranty I have NEVER seen the classic Remington discharge without human influence to cause it to do it.

To date I have never seen a firearm leap off a bench, load itself and shoot someone. Despite hundreds of eye witness accounts from Liberals all across Canada.


When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
 
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First off, thanks for addressing this.

There is nothing wrong with the 700's extraction if there were Remington would have addressed it 30 years ago, and the Marine Corps M40 sniper rifle would be modified to accept a M16 or Sako extractor.


Many argue, but the 700 extractor is actually a lot more effective than some of the replacements that people have put in over the years. It is a sheering extractor, not a camming extractor like the Sako style. When faced with a stuck case, the 700 extractor will either cut through the rim or it will tear out the rim out the bolt face. Camming extractors will simply slip off. There are good and bad points to either scenario but the 700 is a tough little monster despite its whimpy appearance and low mass.


I totally agree; I have had them rip the rim off, where my Mod 70 will simply pop off the rim, as will my Savage.

On the other hand, I did have one 700 extractor break.


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Posts: 7583 | Location: Arizona and off grid in CO | Registered: 28 July 2004Reply With Quote
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I don't know for sure how many Remington ectractors I have installed but it has been a few. This includes those where I have opened up the boltface to a larger size. I do consider it to be a simple, straight forward task.
Those which have been most problematic have been in magnum bolts where the under cut was not deep enough to allow the extractor to snap over the rim. In this case it would shave brass off the rim. The brass shavings would further interfere with the extractor and the damged case rim would often not be caught by the extractor. The answer was to set up the bolt and deepen the undercut, behind the extractor hook, about .010 with a modified woodruff cutter then break the corners of the extractor itself.
When everything is right, the Remington extractor is reliable and strong but if it fails once, that extractor is done and has to be replaced. Regards, Bill
 
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Those which have been most problematic have been in magnum bolts where the under cut was not deep enough to allow the extractor to snap over the rim. In this case it would shave brass off the rim.



Over the years I have advised a few shooters that fitting a new extractor won't solve the problem Smiler
 
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