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Gun Broke in half and Another Question...
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Well yesterday my brother got my gun out of his truck, and I here this WHACK!!! The sling screw stripped out of the stock and the barrel slammed into the concrete busting my 7mm in half... Complete accident, but I was a little distraught Wink

My question is this: I have the chance to buy a used gun with a little less than 250 rounds through it. Where does that stand on the scale of barrel's life? Does it have a healthy life ahead or is it on its last legs?

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Seth, a gun with 250 rounds through it should be just fine unless of course it is on of the super duper Mags and even then it should be ok. I have several guns that have a couple thousand rounds through them and they are still very good shooters. If it is in the class with the ultra mags or STW's give it a good looking over.
 
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Wait it's the 30/06 Ackley Improved...

Now I don't know if I want it. Can I shoot regular 30/06 through this or just the Ackley Improved cartridge?

Thanks for the help -- don't know if I want this or not. I'll need y'alls help.
 
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Busted what in half? The stock or the barrel?


As a general rule, people are nuts!
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Busted what in half? The stock or the barrel?

what was the manufacturer?....tell us more about the damaged gun and the specific nature of the damage.


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Remington 700 7mm Magnum.

It broke in half right at the closest part of the action to the butt.

IN HALF

My father-in-law gave it to me a while back so I don't know anything about a warranty or what not.

Any comments on the Ackley Improved -v- Springfield? Are they interchangeable? I need to know so I can tell this guy. I don't want some kind on a wildcat gun.
 
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It broke in half right at the closest part of the action to the butt.

Seth, if I am reading this right, you are saying the stock itself broke and not any of the metal.

If that's the case, lots of used wood stocks are available and just a matter of getting your gun re-crowned and maybe a bluing touch up.
 
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Yeah - I understand that, and may do it, but I'm still looking for another gun anyway -- this just kind of motivates me to do it.

(you are correct -- only the stock broke in half)
 
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Wait it's the 30/06 Ackley Improved...

Now I don't know if I want it. Can I shoot regular 30/06 through this or just the Ackley Improved cartridge?

Thanks for the help -- don't know if I want this or not. I'll need y'alls help.



If the AI was done correctly you should be able to load and shoot factory 30.06 ammunition in it.


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I got 2 wood adl 700 stocks I'd part with for a small fee.Does your gun have a swing open floorplate or not?


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No -- no floorplate
 
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ebay or plastic stock it,, rebed, and keep shooting. unless it's a 264 or a 257 weatherby, your barrel is barely broken in


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Can a 30/06 Ackley shoot store bought/factory 30/06 ammo?
 
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depending on the reamer, yes... that's how you fireform them


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you can try gun parts corporation/numrich for a stock, too. I found one I needed there.

I bought a remington stock new from remington last year, another on ebay

or get a synthetic- that way you could give it back to your brother with a clean conscience Smiler

you're looking at owning two rifles, here- always better than owning one Smiler
 
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Seth,

Do you reload? If no, then definately pass on the '06AI. Remember you'll need new dies for it. Nothing wrong with another gun, but you might want to get a new stock and then you don't have the urgency to get something else right away.

Unless of course if you are married, then you need to get the new gun and wait a couple months before you discover that you can fix your old one!


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OK well there's only 99 Remington 700 stocks listed on Ebay today Big Grin

And if you're patient you could find BDL bottom metal too.

So for probably $100 total you get a new stock with a floorplate.

And then get a pair of Remington 700 Bedding Pillars and some Acraglas gel from Brownells and you're in better shape than before. Big Grin

Unless you want to send the trigger in to get worked over too, REMINGTON 700 CUSTOM "LIGHT PULL" TRIGGER SERVICE
 
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ebay or plastic stock it,, rebed, and keep shooting. unless it's a 264 or a 257 weatherby, your barrel is barely broken in

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Ok, there Bubba gunsmith guru! just how many 264's have you owned and shot to make your profound statement? or is this just more of you running your mouth without any first hand knowledge as usual?
 
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ebay or plastic stock it,, rebed, and keep shooting. unless it's a 264 or a 257 weatherby, your barrel is barely broken in

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Ok, there Bubba gunsmith guru! just how many 264's have you owned and shot to make your profound statement? or is this just more of you running your mouth without any first hand knowledge as usual?


2- 264s, one a shot out POS that wouldn't make book.. douglas barrel on a mauser.. it was rebarreled to 300 win later...

other, a NICE pre64 that a friend of mine liked way more than me, and made me a nice deal on a polytech m14 (m1a) that was MOA with a scope... I liked the 14, he liked the winchester. do a serach under my name and polytech and I am certain you'll find a picture of it here...

of course, jimmy, we haven't established the FIRST time i've discussed items that you feel I didn't have expereince with... and, to your utter shame, you have been proven wrong to the point of tediusness

I am still awaiting your aopology from the last time, but I am certain you lack the experience to accept when you are wrong, acknowledge it, and move on. Your life must truely be miserable.

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please note, I am POINTING OUT the signifcant portions of the pictures animal of course, FYJ and jimmy will now rant about other random, irrational, unrelated BS, but that's just the way they are

this will be a little like X-files.. pictures of the non-existent!! From a full grown, adult man, i would expect a full appology. after he sees this pictures... of course, I won't get one, as neither FYJ or Jimmy have the stones to state he's made a mistake.

so, in order to clear up a few things, and to make certain the pictures had indicative markers to show that they aren't "borrowed", i thought I would post a couple pictures of several "non-existent" or "no experience with" items.


well,
I gotta say, I am a little tired of being accused of being a liar (and worse) by a no account, never-posted-a-post-about-his-projects, can't be convinced - even when the importer tells him the truth, newbie.


#1 a NECG RUGER peep sight, that I knocked the sharp corners off and didn't get around to bluing (the weather here has SUCKED for a month)

btw, it RATTLES (like every other NECG ruger sight) when you loosen the apature... and if you pull UP on it, it moves at least .025, without the apature tightened... just like every other RUGER NECG sight.



#2 - here's a high level pic of a couple cold and rust blue containers that I have used over the years..that i have "no experience" with.... the oxpho is probably 2 years old, and is the newest... I couldn't find a BC blue... must have run out and not bothered to replace that stinky crap

old toothbrush that didn't get thrown away last time I had these out... oh well



#3 - perhaps a better view of the bluing agents


#4 bluing and ruger sight in the same picture



#5 "non-existent" crown .. as presented in the first post about it, as done by huntingcat. that someone was so new that they missed that reference and picked a squabble over it speaks VOLUMES for their true character


#6 close up of the same - sorry it's blurry, but anyone that can read this post can see it's internally RADIUSED with a "non-existent" tool... (yet I posted links to simular tools available from VALENITE.. but FYJ says V doesn't make small radius tools)




#7, oh, a picture of a group shot by this AB barrel, with the non-existent crown, in 416 AR ... shooting 400gr as about 2500FPS
(yes, it's really 3 shots, FYJ)


in retrospect, perhaps "pointing out" portions of the pictures was overkill.


Now, I would like to see some pictures of FYJ's comments... perhaps a picture of him at his board of directors meeting, and some of his work...

after all, i have a WEBSITE full of pictures showing my stuff...


could someone please, now, tell me what "acpected" means? dancing


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Bubba, let me set you straight, I have 10 264's and two of them have close to 1000 rounds down the tube and both still shoot as good as ever. They will hold right at 1" @ 100 yards. Don't believe everything you read jeffe, not everything is fact even though you post as fact.

I am still awaiting your aopology jumping

I called you out on the oxpho-blue stinking, you are the only one thinking it stinks.
 
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Bubba, let me set you straight, I have 10 264's and two of them have close to 1000 rounds down the tube and both still shoot as good as ever. They will hold right at 1" @ 100 yards. Don't believe everything you read jeffe, not everything is fact even though you post as fact.

I am still awaiting your aopology jumping

I called you out on the oxpho-blue stinking, you are the only one thinking it stinks.


Jimmy,
what part of shot out POS did you miss in my reply?

thanks, glad you are having good experience with your 264s


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What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
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I just gotta but in here,
there is so much more to shooting out a rifle barrel then the cartridge its chamberd for. and any given number of rounds down the bore.
If you shoot a screamer like a .257 weatherby , or a .264 you need to be a little more carfull.
i see lots of .257 weatherby ultrta lights. so i will use that as an example. If you shoot a round or 2 and let it cool and mabye even clean it before shooting again it will last alot longer than if you were to shoot 50 rounds in a session over say half an hour to an hour, repeatedly.
another factor is bullet weight. if you shoot heavy bullets you will have less velocity (les friction) and a smaller powder charge, and mabye a faster burning powder so more of the powder burns in the case than down the bore.
Clearly ultra fast small bore powder burners are tougher on barrels than other rounds. I have seen guys at the range shooting 100 rounds through a rifle prety fast , thats got shorten the life of the barrel than the same hundred rouns fired slowly no matter what round is being fired.....tj3006


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TJ, your post is what I was talking about. There are several of the fast boomers in my safe and they are all tack drivers but they are well cared for and as you said, don't heat them up.
Besides, who is really going to use a large magnum to shoot a 100 rounds at one sitting,not me Big Grin
 
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