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Here is a pic of a 1911 pistol that was hand polished and blued using my American Formula. It was done by a first time customer. Grips are Giraffe femur bone. I think he did OK!

 
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I'm not surprised; Bob's formula works very well. As for the giraffe leg; I won't comment on that.
 
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I bet the owner gets a KICK OUTA IT! Big Grin

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Big Rolling my Eyes Emoji here.
 
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Yeah, he said the Giraffe bone will amber with exposure to air and end up looking like old ivory. Big Grin My interest is the blue. Cool
 
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A little bit off topic, sorry, but do you export? Can your products be bought outside the US ?

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I cannot ship beyond CONUS due to HAZMAT restrictions.
 
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Bugger!

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Giraffe bone when polished is the closest thing to elephant ivory that I have seen.

Fossilized mammoth ivory is also good, but more expensive.

Natural bone, antler, horn and tusk make the best grips and handles. There is almost a warmth to them.

Great job on the bluing, BTW.


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i tried using this for knife scales.. couldn't get past the smell


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"Gag"....I hope that's only when working the bone?
 
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There is only one material suitable for a 1911; Walnut, checkered; the original.
 
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There is only one material suitable for a 1911; Walnut, checkered; the original.


I agree 100% but also including double diamonds.
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Bobster,

Can your formula be used to reblue firearms that are caustic blued?
 
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Sorry, but nothing beats elephant ivory.

I have a couple of hundred pounds of it that I would put on the grips of all of my pistols and revolvers, were it not for my stupid government.

Ah, well.


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Sorry, but nothing beats elephant ivory.

I have a couple of hundred pounds of it that I would put on the grips of all of my pistols and revolvers, were it not for my stupid government.

Ah, well.


Michael,

I know that you can’t sell sport hunted ivory, but are you sure that you aren’t allowed to have turned into grips?


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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Jason,

The difficulty these days seems to be shipping across state lines, at least to and from some states.

I suppose I could have it done in-state, but I'm not sure and I don't know anyone in-state who does that sort of thing anyway.

And ultimately, neither I nor my estate could sell to third parties.

Misguided policies and laws - no logic or purpose is served by them.


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From limited reseach, chemically speakilng, bone and ivory cannot be chemically distiguished from the other...I know this is off the thread theme..maybe belongs on another post.

Just opens questions about even importing beef (along with the bone)...grin!
 
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Continuing off topic to answer the above in brief:

Bone is porous, to a greater or lesser (giraffe, camel) extent.

For all practical purposes ivory is not.

Elephant ivory has unique Schreger Lines in the cross-sectional view. Mammoth ivory has the Schreger lines at a different angle to modern elephant ivory. The visual effect of Schreger lines is stunning to my eyes at least, though it's not always bold.

Warthog, hippo, walrus and whale don't have the criss-crossing of elephant ivory Schreger Lines, but have their own ring formations that allow identification.

Elephant ivory can be exceptionally beautiful, depending on the background colour as it ages. The prominence of Schreger lines varies, but it's all amazing stuff. If it's well seasoned and looked after it ages pretty well to a handsome patina, though it can stain.
 
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Ivory looks strange to me on handguns. Yes, I have seen Patton's revolvers in the Patton Museum.
Wood, looks better. I know, others like it, but unless "antique", it can't be taken across state lines.
Camel hooves? Just no.
 
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Yes, in fact, you can blue right over the top of it.

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Can your formula be used to reblue firearms that are caustic blued?
 
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Ivory looks strange to me on handguns. Yes, I have seen Patton's revolvers in the Patton Museum.
Wood, looks better. I know, others like it, but unless "antique", it can't be taken across state lines.
Camel hooves? Just no.


After WWII, a distant cousin. Navy man, gave my mother six carved ivory napkin rings Beautiful! My daughter has them now and I told her to represent them as plastic if anyone asks...???
 
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Yes, in fact, you can blue right over the top of it.

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Bobster,

Can your formula be used to reblue firearms that are caustic blued?


That;s interesing (and surprising) to me anyway
 
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I know, others like it, but unless "antique", it can't be taken across state lines.


DCPD,

Do you mean that a gun with ivory grips can't be taken across state lines?

I was under the impression that ivory that has been "worked" (converted into another item, such as grips) is not regulated the way raw ivory is. Is this no the case?


Jason

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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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DCPD,

Do you mean that a gun with ivory grips can't be taken across state lines?

I was under the impression that ivory that has been "worked" (converted into another item, such as grips) is not regulated the way raw ivory is. Is this no the case?

It was my understanding that Ivory cannot be sold across state lines, never heard you cannot transport across state lines.
 
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You can personally transport it across state lines. It just cannot be sold or traded. Interstate commerce rules.
 
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Continuing off topic to answer the above in brief:

Bone is porous, to a greater or lesser (giraffe, camel) extent.

For all practical purposes ivory is not.

Elephant ivory has unique Schreger Lines in the cross-sectional view. Mammoth ivory has the Schreger lines at a different angle to modern elephant ivory. The visual effect of Schreger lines is stunning to my eyes at least, though it's not always bold.

Warthog, hippo, walrus and whale don't have the criss-crossing of elephant ivory Schreger Lines, but have their own ring formations that allow identification.

Elephant ivory can be exceptionally beautiful, depending on the background colour as it ages. The prominence of Schreger lines varies, but it's all amazing stuff. If it's well seasoned and looked after it ages pretty well to a handsome patina, though it can stain.


Sorry to continue the off-topic focus, but thanks for that explication.

The subtle, sub-surface, geometric pearling in elephant ivory grips is astonishingly beautiful.

Makes them seem alive.


Mike

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A good lawyer could tear someone a new ass for trying to prosecute such a case, I don't know of anyone being filed on for pistol grips etc, only on commercial ventures that lend themselves to commercial or illegal Ivory. I see Ivory for sale at gun shows all the time on old colt pistols, 1911s and what have you..I love Ivory pistol grips and will buy them in a heart beat in Texas to Idaho..but I would not buy a tusk..


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A good lawyer could tear someone a new ass for trying to prosecute such a case, I don't know of anyone being filed on for pistol grips etc, only on commercial ventures that lend themselves to commercial or illegal Ivory. I see Ivory for sale at gun shows all the time on old colt pistols, 1911s and what have you..I love Ivory pistol grips and will buy them in a heart beat in Texas to Idaho..but I would not buy a tusk..


Maybe so, but you still gotta pay the lawyer.
 
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