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Novice's rust bluing results
18 December 2022, 19:42
BobsterNovice's rust bluing results
Here is a pic of a 1911 pistol that was hand polished and blued using my American Formula. It was done by a first time customer. Grips are Giraffe femur bone. I think he did OK!
18 December 2022, 23:58
dpcdI'm not surprised; Bob's formula works very well. As for the giraffe leg; I won't comment on that.
19 December 2022, 04:27
HipshootI bet the owner gets a KICK OUTA IT!
Hip
19 December 2022, 06:39
dpcdBig Rolling my Eyes Emoji here.
19 December 2022, 06:42
BobsterYeah, he said the Giraffe bone will amber with exposure to air and end up looking like old ivory.
My interest is the blue.
20 December 2022, 01:18
yumastepsideA little bit off topic, sorry, but do you export? Can your products be bought outside the US ?
Roger
20 December 2022, 07:42
BobsterI cannot ship beyond CONUS due to HAZMAT restrictions.
20 December 2022, 10:30
yumastepsideBugger!
Roger
21 December 2022, 05:23
Michael RobinsonGiraffe bone when polished is the closest thing to elephant ivory that I have seen.
Fossilized mammoth ivory is also good, but more expensive.
Natural bone, antler, horn and tusk make the best grips and handles. There is almost a warmth to them.
Great job on the bluing, BTW.
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
22 December 2022, 04:59
jeffeossoi tried using this for knife scales.. couldn't get past the smell
22 December 2022, 20:50
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)"Gag"....I hope that's only when working the bone?
22 December 2022, 20:57
dpcdThere is only one material suitable for a 1911; Walnut, checkered; the original.
22 December 2022, 23:54
Phil McFallquote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
There is only one material suitable for a 1911; Walnut, checkered; the original.
I agree 100% but also including double diamonds.
Phil
23 December 2022, 07:29
cjfosterBobster,
Can your formula be used to reblue firearms that are caustic blued?
23 December 2022, 10:44
Michael RobinsonSorry, but nothing beats elephant ivory.
I have a couple of hundred pounds of it that I would put on the grips of all of my pistols and revolvers, were it not for my stupid government.
Ah, well.
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
23 December 2022, 13:13
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
Sorry, but nothing beats elephant ivory.
I have a couple of hundred pounds of it that I would put on the grips of all of my pistols and revolvers, were it not for my stupid government.
Ah, well.
Michael,
I know that you can’t sell sport hunted ivory, but are you sure that you aren’t allowed to have turned into grips?
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
23 December 2022, 20:05
Michael RobinsonJason,
The difficulty these days seems to be shipping across state lines, at least to and from some states.
I suppose I could have it done in-state, but I'm not sure and I don't know anyone in-state who does that sort of thing anyway.
And ultimately, neither I nor my estate could sell to third parties.
Misguided policies and laws - no logic or purpose is served by them.
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
23 December 2022, 21:16
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)From limited reseach, chemically speakilng, bone and ivory cannot be chemically distiguished from the other...I know this is off the thread theme..maybe belongs on another post.
Just opens questions about even importing beef (along with the bone)...grin!
23 December 2022, 23:44
JuglansregiaContinuing off topic to answer the above in brief:
Bone is porous, to a greater or lesser (giraffe, camel) extent.
For all practical purposes ivory is not.
Elephant ivory has unique Schreger Lines in the cross-sectional view. Mammoth ivory has the Schreger lines at a different angle to modern elephant ivory. The visual effect of Schreger lines is stunning to my eyes at least, though it's not always bold.
Warthog, hippo, walrus and whale don't have the criss-crossing of elephant ivory Schreger Lines, but have their own ring formations that allow identification.
Elephant ivory can be exceptionally beautiful, depending on the background colour as it ages. The prominence of Schreger lines varies, but it's all amazing stuff. If it's well seasoned and looked after it ages pretty well to a handsome patina, though it can stain.
24 December 2022, 00:56
dpcdIvory looks strange to me on handguns. Yes, I have seen Patton's revolvers in the Patton Museum.
Wood, looks better. I know, others like it, but unless "antique", it can't be taken across state lines.
Camel hooves? Just no.
24 December 2022, 03:04
BobsterYes, in fact, you can blue right over the top of it.
www.rustblue.comquote:
Originally posted by cjfoster:
Bobster,
Can your formula be used to reblue firearms that are caustic blued?
24 December 2022, 04:15
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Ivory looks strange to me on handguns. Yes, I have seen Patton's revolvers in the Patton Museum.
Wood, looks better. I know, others like it, but unless "antique", it can't be taken across state lines.
Camel hooves? Just no.
After WWII, a distant cousin. Navy man, gave my mother six carved ivory napkin rings Beautiful! My daughter has them now and I told her to represent them as plastic if anyone asks...???
24 December 2022, 04:17
Duane Wiebe (CG&R)quote:
Originally posted by Bobster:
Yes, in fact, you can blue right over the top of it.
www.rustblue.comquote:
Originally posted by cjfoster:
Bobster,
Can your formula be used to reblue firearms that are caustic blued?
That;s interesing (and surprising) to me anyway
24 December 2022, 16:29
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
I know, others like it, but unless "antique", it can't be taken across state lines.
DCPD,
Do you mean that a gun with ivory grips can't be taken across state lines?
I was under the impression that ivory that has been "worked" (converted into another item, such as grips) is not regulated the way raw ivory is. Is this no the case?
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
25 December 2022, 22:02
Gundog 64quote:
Originally posted by JBrown:
DCPD,
Do you mean that a gun with ivory grips can't be taken across state lines?
I was under the impression that ivory that has been "worked" (converted into another item, such as grips) is not regulated the way raw ivory is. Is this no the case?
It was my understanding that Ivory cannot be sold across state lines, never heard you cannot transport across state lines.
25 December 2022, 22:10
dpcdYou can personally transport it across state lines. It just cannot be sold or traded. Interstate commerce rules.
29 December 2022, 08:13
Michael Robinsonquote:
Originally posted by Juglansregia:
Continuing off topic to answer the above in brief:
Bone is porous, to a greater or lesser (giraffe, camel) extent.
For all practical purposes ivory is not.
Elephant ivory has unique Schreger Lines in the cross-sectional view. Mammoth ivory has the Schreger lines at a different angle to modern elephant ivory. The visual effect of Schreger lines is stunning to my eyes at least, though it's not always bold.
Warthog, hippo, walrus and whale don't have the criss-crossing of elephant ivory Schreger Lines, but have their own ring formations that allow identification.
Elephant ivory can be exceptionally beautiful, depending on the background colour as it ages. The prominence of Schreger lines varies, but it's all amazing stuff. If it's well seasoned and looked after it ages pretty well to a handsome patina, though it can stain.
Sorry to continue the off-topic focus, but thanks for that explication.
The subtle, sub-surface, geometric pearling in elephant ivory grips is astonishingly beautiful.
Makes them seem alive.
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
12 January 2023, 21:18
AtkinsonA good lawyer could tear someone a new ass for trying to prosecute such a case, I don't know of anyone being filed on for pistol grips etc, only on commercial ventures that lend themselves to commercial or illegal Ivory. I see Ivory for sale at gun shows all the time on old colt pistols, 1911s and what have you..I love Ivory pistol grips and will buy them in a heart beat in Texas to Idaho..but I would not buy a tusk..
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
14 January 2023, 01:21
rcraigquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
A good lawyer could tear someone a new ass for trying to prosecute such a case, I don't know of anyone being filed on for pistol grips etc, only on commercial ventures that lend themselves to commercial or illegal Ivory. I see Ivory for sale at gun shows all the time on old colt pistols, 1911s and what have you..I love Ivory pistol grips and will buy them in a heart beat in Texas to Idaho..but I would not buy a tusk..
Maybe so, but you still gotta pay the lawyer.