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I'm curious, sorr to hijack, what's the difference in length between a standard and a magnum action?

Jeff, I'm sure none of the posters here value their post counts so much they'd leavethe forum cluttered with useless blank posts. likely they don't know how to delete them. a nice moderator might clean those out for us Big Grin.

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There are four basic Mauser actions with multiple variations for the "98 System Sporter" - which refers to Mauser actions that were built for sporting, not miilitary rifles. Many of the variations did not have the left thumb cut.

The 4 basic sizes in these system were:
(name, length, bolt length, ring dia, ring length):
Magnum: 9.15", 6.77", 1.41", 1.68"
Standard (military 98): 8.75", 6.3", 1.41", 1.68"
Intermediate: 8.75", 6.165", 1.41", 1.89"
Short (K): 8.125", 5.76", 1.3", 1.89"


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I'm curious, sorr to hijack, what's the difference in length between a standard and a magnum action?

Jeff, I'm sure none of the posters here value their post counts so much they'd leavethe forum cluttered with useless blank posts. likely they don't know how to delete them. a nice moderator might clean those out for us Big Grin.

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Red --
The info on the mausers is on the top of the gunsmithing forum, and austin was nice enough to post .. recall that there is about 3 or 4, depending on how you count it, magnum mausers, but THE magnum MAUSER was built specifically to rigby's specs.

Alf is perfectly aware as to what he's doing, and I refer you to this thread where he's removed 10s of posts .. and yes, its to keep his count up .. he USED to delete his posts, then found out it was bad for his count...
http://forums.accuratereloadin...4711043/m/2861098911


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I have a stockmaker lined out(Perry Mittelstadt). He is located on the western slope. He does really great work at an unbelievable price. He mostly builds single shots with Hi-Wall and Husqvarna Rolling block actions. Griffin and Howe had one of his rifles for sale not to long ago. Just gorgeous stuff. However, he can stock anything or build anything he sets his mind to. He was a tool and die maker in a past life, and has also agreed to make the sights.


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I refer you to this thread where he's removed 10s of posts .. and yes, its to keep his count up .. he USED to delete his posts, then found out it was bad for his count...

What's the point of keeping one's post count up? Do you get a prize?
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JD,
it "lends credibility" in some peoples minds .. no prize ..

but why not delete your post, rather than having . as your entire post? if you edit your post, its 1 click more to delete it


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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Matt, how is this project going so far? Did you get the pics and measurements you where looking for if so can you post some of them?

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Hey Matt, no fair man. you wanted to know fair price, but now that you have found a fair price, why not share? I know, a lot of us like to keep things under wraps, but what about all of us that like to fantasize, we need numbers to do it right?

see, I sometimes write down the number, conservatively, of millions I'll get if I win the mega lotto, then I start writing out all the deductions for things I'm going to do, i.e.:

1. 416 Selby Rigby = 7k
2. Hungarian or Czechloslavakian "gunbearer" = 45k per anum

etc.

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Hey Matt, no fair man. you wanted to know fair price, but now that you have found a fair price, why not share? I know, a lot of us like to keep things under wraps, but what about all of us that like to fantasize, we need numbers to do it right?

see, I sometimes write down the number, conservatively, of millions I'll get if I win the mega lotto, then I start writing out all the deductions for things I'm going to do, i.e.:

1. 416 Selby Rigby = 7k
2. Hungarian or Czechloslavakian "gunbearer" = 45k per anum

etc.

Red

I'll let you know when the action work is done and payed for. It will be a while.


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ColoradoMatt, did you decide to stick with the 416 Rigby on the standard action for your Selby replica, or go with the 416 Ruger, which would be easier to do?
 
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ColoradoMatt, did you decide to stick with the 416 Rigby on the standard action for your Selby replica, or go with the 416 Ruger, which would be easier to do?


It wouldn't even be a replica of Selby's rifle if he went with the 416 Ruger. It would be a bad joke(I getting sick just thinking about it!).

My NSHO of course.


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ColoradoMatt, did you decide to stick with the 416 Rigby on the standard action for your Selby replica, or go with the 416 Ruger, which would be easier to do?


I'm going with the 416 Rigby, and it will be opened up to handle up to 3.75" cartridges as Rigby intended.


Matt
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"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."
 
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Matt, how is this project going so far? Did you get the pics and measurements you where looking for if so can you post some of them?
James


BaxterB e-mailed me some pics that apeered in a "The American Rifleman" article in 2002 by Joe Coogan. I also obtained a copy of this issue. I will be mailing out copies of these and an article by Layne Simpson from "Handloader" magazine tomorrow to all four gentlemen involved in this project.


Matt
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Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984:

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."
 
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Alf is perfectly aware as to what he's doing, and I refer you to this thread where he's removed 10s of posts .. and yes, its to keep his count up .. he USED to delete his posts, then found out it was bad for his count...
http://forums.accuratereloadin...4711043/m/2861098911
JD,
it "lends credibility" in some peoples minds .. no prize ..

but why not delete your post, rather than having . as your entire post? if you edit your post, its 1 click more to delete it

Wow... I thought I'd seen it all! ALF's credibility just plummeted to absolute zero in my book if this allegation is indeed true.

Is he really removing all the text from his old posts, yet leaving a period in place to preserve his count? You know this for a fact? It sure looks that way if you look at his recent posts... Very sad and pitiful if this is the case.

Anybody who relies on an internet forum post count to measure their sense of self worth really needs to seek professional counseling or get themselves a real life.

There's a couple guys with signature lines that say to add 400 posts to their count due to a system dump or something. I always thought this was tongue in cheek humor, but now I'm not so sure.

Credibility, (like respect) must be earned, and it sure doesn't come with sheer quantity of posts.

ALF, is this true? If it is I don't know whether to laugh at you, or cry for you...

P.S. This practice just ain't right on a couple levels. If a running back gains 100 yards in a game, but on his last run gets thrown for a 3 yard loss his total for the game then becomes 97 yards. You don't get credit for yards lost, and you don't get "credit" for posts deleted!
 
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there's more than 100 of them, monte -- you tell me?


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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there's more than 100 of them, monte -- you tell me?

I don't know what to tell you. I can't come to any other conclusion than yours. To me it messes up the thread because others may respond to something said previously, but then you can't go back and see what they are talking about. I edit on occassion, but it is generally to correct spelling, grammar, or round out or clarify a point I am making.

I went back and looked myself, and there's bunches of them. You're the moderator, but if it was me and there was absolutely no value to the modified posts I wouldn't hesitate to delete them all.
 
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Its a PITA to do more than a post or an entire thread .. and if they were deleted, then there wouldn't be the "thread" crumb trail, leading back to him.

its bad behavoir, that he's been called out on before ..


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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Holt's auctions come up with the odd such rifle. If you can buy one for about $3k mark with a stuffed barrel, you could still rebarrel & restock it & have a great rifle.

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