Theres going o be trouble in town tonight

When loading a 45/70 up tight no small cotten swabs going to stop that tip from smacking the primer in front of it ..

I'll take some .30, .35 and .45 bullets right now!!

Let me know if you get an explosion.

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Originally posted by Mulerider:
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/leverevolution.asp

If it takes that little force to smash the tip what do folks thinks going to happen under high powered recoil ....Hornady once again used one of there 12 year old to run the numbers.....

it looks as if the tip is almost the size of the primer so the more surface the less likely the "accident"...we'll find out soon enough

With all the lawyers running loose and looking for work, I gotta believe the great minds at Hornady have produced a good product or it would have never made it this far. I'll try it..if it doesn't work...my kids can own Hornady!!

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Originally posted by Lowrider 49:
With all the lawyers running loose and looking for work, I gotta believe the great minds at Hornady have produced a good product or it would have never made it this far. I'll try it..if it doesn't work...my kids can own Hornady!!

Yes Hornady does have great lawyer's ..I know thay do

No doubt in my mind that they are safe ( see comments on lawyers, above ) but I will be interested in real field results. Will they kill reliably at "normal" levergun ranges, much less smack game at the extended ranges which are being promoted.

They look like Gummy Bullets to me.

Damn now I'm gonna have to get a 30/30 been thinking about a good truck gun. Ghost ring sights would look good on it too.Maybe a low power scope,decisions are hard sometimes!

I'm sure Hornady did there homework and testing.The only thing that would concern me would be the sub-zero temps some of us hunt in and how soft that tip would remain frozen.

Not much is said of bullet construction either.What kind of a bullet is it?Is it an interlock or just cup core design?Should be interesting on reports.

Jayco

Talked to Hornady today and looks like they will have their hands full making ammo with them and we won't have them to handload with for a while. To think it took 100yrs for someone to come up with this....

Deke.

What's the point?

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Originally posted by MajorCaliber:
What's the point?

It's a sort of plastic.

hornady is not going to risk losing it all,i believe they've done thier homework on this one bad thing is this will cause me to buy a 450 marlin!

My question is how much the tip will deform overcoming the coefficient of friction of air at the velocities they will produce?

The tip is made of an polymer, and it was tested in all normal hunting temperatures.

Special tubes were made to simulate ammo tubes of lever guns and were then dropped on end, at a height of 30ft, and there was no sign of primer impact. As far as recoil during fireing there were no instances of primer ignition.

If it will add the advertised 100yds( or even 75yds) of range to the said cartridges, then this new round will indeed be a huge advancement for the old venerable 30-30, 35 Rem, 444 Marlin, 45-70, and .450 Marlin.

If nothing else the 444 265 Gr bullets should do a good job in a sabot in a ML

Does anyone know what the ballistic coefficients are on these new LeverRevolution bullets? I'm primarilly interested in the 45-70. I read everything on the Hornady site and could not find anything on it at all other than "greatly improved BC". I also sent Hornady an email asking them, but haven't heard back from them.

firstshot
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Make your first shot count!

I wonder if that rubber will get harder as the temperature drops.

Guess it really wouldn't matter in my case since it is usually 90+ degress when i,m usually pig hunting. But something about that gives me chills.

Imagine the looks on peoples faces at the range as you stuff a tube full of those.

Yawn...a spiral magazine tube keeps spitzers off primers anyway and is an idea at least 70 years old.

I gotta wonder if that little piece of soft rubber is still going to be there after accelerating under god knows how many G's, spinning up to over 100,000 rpm and then hitting the atmoshpere at Mach 2.

Visions of a little red lump either flying off at the speed of light or smearing along the sides of the proj under air pressure....

Anyone got a fast camera??.......

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Originally posted by First Shot:
Does anyone know what the ballistic coefficients are on these new LeverRevolution bullets? I'm primarilly interested in the 45-70. I read everything on the Hornady site and could not find anything on it at all other than "greatly improved BC". I also sent Hornady an email asking them, but haven't heard back from them.

firstshot
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Make your first shot count!

The 325gr 45-70 and .450 Marlin bullets have a BC of .230....

http://hornady.primediaoutdoors.com/HDstory1.html

Those tips should be flavored and edible so we can make trailmix with our "in the shell peanuts" while sitting on the stand. Will that be the next improvement??

Thats not that great a bc........................I reckon some 400 gr bullets almost match it......they should have done a 400 gr bullet.