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A New “Record Red Deer” From Argentina and Another One in the Making
Gerhard Damm

After the well known Burlei affair a couple of years ago, the specter of captive red stags, bred, born, raised, manipulated and shot to satisfy some person’s ambition to hang a record size piece of bone on a “trophy wall” respectively to satisfy the ambition of the owners to maximize profits raises again its ugly head. We have received notice of a so-called world record deer shot in a small enclosure in Argentina’s La Pampa province after having been bred and raised on a deer-breeding farm near Buenos Aires. Although this stag is claimed as being the new world and South American record based on the existing CIC measuring methods, this “claim to fame” has no authorization whatsoever through the CIC or its Commission on Exhibitions and Trophies; it was not measured by any official CIC measurers and in all likelihood will never be submitted for official measuring, taking into account the rumors which have surfaced so far.

Another potential record stag – even larger than the mentioned Argentinean stag – was recently offered to the highest bidder by a European booking agent. The respective email, which we have in copy, reads “new world record red stag both in SCI and CIC measurement systems (over 700 SCI points and over 300 CIC points).Will be sold to the hunter who makes the highest offer. The hunt can be taken starting now and until September”. We do not want to speculate where this monster stag is growing, but we have heard that the CIC took exception to the use of its name and accordingly advised the booking agent who spread the email.-------

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wow, on the article, what an overwhelming use of inference to try and make an undocumentment "speculation" seem like confirmed facts.

"we have received notice" .. FROM WHO .. anonymous via the internet, I would expect, as a factual source would have been at least described.
"in all likelihood" .. what a bunch of HOOEY .. and self contradicts the article that killing a "pen raised" deer, for maximum profits AND ego would go undocumented.

"we have heard that the CIC took exception" .. did they or didn't they, and, WHO CARES, its fair use to estimated scoring based off known systems. They didn't say CIC was endorsing the hunting/shoot/whatever. FAIR USE, like FAIR CHASE isn't hard to understand ,,,

rumor, inuendo, specters and dramatic language.. you know its a myth at that point


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Sadly this is becaming more and more common in my country,guarateed puma hunts,garanteed record stags and so on ,personally i hunt unfenced farms ,and i never garanteed a trophy to my clients ,because of that i have 50 wingshooter to 1 big game hunter ,but we must study ,if big game hunters arent becoming trophy collectors ,i believe we must encourage fenced and unfenced trophy lists in ARGENTINA because ,today there is only one trophy list and thats a great unjustice to the hunters who walks the busjh of la pampa or los andes mountains through weeks ,most of the times with not results.Juan


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