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Hunting area: Naryn/Kyrgizstan Terms: 10th - 22th November 2011 Price: 16000USD Add. trophy: Ibex (2500USD) Not hunter - 1500USD Add. cost: 1.Visa and VIP-Service at airport Bishkek 2.Flight 3.Hotel in Bishkek 4.Tips Outfitter: Extrem-Tours Brückenkopf 8 85051 Ingolstadt Call: +498419819241 e-mail: aska-tur@extrem-tours.de | ||
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We can get for Marco Polo only one licence for this price 16000USD!!! | |||
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What is the normal price for this hunt and what is the average sized animals horn length in inches? | |||
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I think the normal price for a Kirg Marco Polo last years was about 20.000 maybe a bit more. mario | |||
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I hope that is true Mario. Wasn't it a few years back they were close to $40 000? This is another hunt on my list. Some day! | |||
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Yes in some places was 40.000. In Kirgh was normally cheaper as the Argali there seems not so big as in Tajikistan mario | |||
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BARGAIN ! Booked for Namibia or I would be on this hunt! | |||
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For quite a while, there has been a difference in price between Kirgisian and Tajik (sp?) hunts for Argali. As Mario states, it seems most of the bigger Argali trophies came out of Tajikistan (sp?). In addition, at least for a while, there was a controversy about whether Argali hunted in Kirgistan could actually be classified as "Ovis Ammon Poli", or whether they should truely be classified as belonging to another Argali sub species. I'm not intending to portray myself as an expert on the issue, so I could not tell you one way or the other - although Poli hunts have been advertized in Kirgistan for several years. It also seems, that there are different sheep populations in Kirgistan, so it may depend on the actual area hunted. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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What would the differeces be i the sheep sizes? Are we taling a couple inches on average? | |||
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In Tadjik you can to be sure, that you got ram with 60inch . If you want so one, you can simply pay 35,000 USD. For 35,000 USD you can get a ram with 150-160cm. guarantee! In Kyrg the MPs are smaller as in Tadjk, but you can take the ram with 130cm For 35000USD in Kyrg you can take 3 rams. Regards Igor | |||
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Any difference in the size and species of the ibex? | |||
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You can hunt Altai-Abex in Kazakstan/Mongolia/Russia - smaller as in Kyrg. In Kyrg there is only Thajn-Shan population. You can see the horns of MP. Thanks to Arjun: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6108036/m/3561068551I think the wolves have eaten.. | |||
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The volves... This MP was founded too in Naryn The horns with 154cm. | |||
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Likely 8-10 inches difference between average rams in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan from the research I've done. The rams in Kyrgyzstan are also smaller bodied so their horns still look impressive relative to body size. Ibex average larger though. I'm booked for October in Kyrgyzstan. From all the researchI've done it sounds like a much friendlier country to hunt and just a better overall experience but unquestionably the rams are smaller. This is definitely a good price. | |||
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Thanks TJ, For the difference in the prices I think 8 inches I could let slide. The experience alone will make the trip and I figure a 52" ram would make a guy pretty happy. Let us know how your trip goes. If I wasn't booked for my Leopard and buff trip I would be all over this. I think 2013 will be a year to look at for this. I was going to do Spain but that may have to wait! | |||
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My understanding is 48-52" is a trophy in Kyrg and 55"+ is a real wopper and not likely......but it does happen. A friend here in Anchorage shot a 54" or 56" in the Naryn area last year. It pays to be lucky! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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The terms in February for MP: 01.02.2012 - 15.02.2012 or 15.02.2012- 01.03.2012 Regards Igor | |||
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profyhunter, forgive me if I have missed this, but have any members of AR taken advantage of any of your offered hunts? if so, who? and could you direct us to a hunt report? Thanks | |||
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I used his service last year for my hunt in belarus. You can see the report here http://forums.accuratereloadin...221005041#9221005041 | |||
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Dennis, Thanks for the info, does anyone know of any of his Kyrgystan hunts been taken by AR members? | |||
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Dear Bredford! The AR members (... but not all) are scared by me to book a hunt, but we do know: No risk -No fun! I have suggested, for example, hunting in Kegeti in January 2010 only for 3500USD. No hunter has booked from AR. But it would be there from England and the hunter had taken an ibex 120cm Please read Hunting Report http://www.huntingreport.com/h...Kyrgyzstan%20Hunting But the fact is, that some hunters who come to Kyrg this year will get some surprises. I dnot know whether the hunters will then write in AR. But I would be happy if these hunters then write, but that it was a mistake not book hunting trip by Extrem-Tours. If someone wants to pay more for the same hunt, then he can do it. For me, that's fine too. Brad! Please wait a couple of months, then come hunting reports. Best regards Igor | |||
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Igor, encourage your clients to join AR and post reports. | |||
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Brad! I can offer not only Kyrg for MP. Last year in Pamir: The price is more expensive as in Kyrgyzistan. The service cost with MP - 30000USD | |||
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Brad, Igor does most of his business with German speaking clients. Needless to say, a lot (most?) of these will likely be hesitant to post a hunt report on an English speaking forum. But if you feel like trying your hand at German, you can find references for Igor on boards like http://www.wildundhund.de/foru...2e6edd4c5e6e2baf07b2. Igor also posts under the pen name "profyhunter" on that board. As an aside, for years the Central Asian Republics were far more common as hunting destinations for European than for North American clients. I'm not sure what the reason for this was, and the difference did not seem to cover all species - after all the Americans were always the more enthusiastic sheep hunters. But for many other species (e.g. ibex) hunters from North America tended to travel to destinations such as Mongolia whereas Europeans headed to Kirgistan, Kasakhstan and Tajikistan (I apologize if I got the spelling wrong?). To a certain degree, this was perhaps understandable - not too many North American clients bother to travel to Central Asia to hunt elk (maral) - but in other cases American hunting consultants like the Klineburgers and Bob Kern had a hand in opening the hunting areas in Asia. But there it is, I guess it might slowly be changing. I have hunted Central Asia on several occasions (although not with Igor), and it is an experience I would not have been without. There is great hunting to be had in what is often untouched wilderness. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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Thanks Mike! I would add, that the hunt in Kazakstan for many hunters was by Sergei Stepanchenko announced. In Kyrgyzstan the Cholponbek has done much and in Tajikistan Yuri. How to forget who has done much work in these countries. regards | |||
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@mike Mike! I also think that in the future, maybe in 3-5 years we will see more outfitter directly from Kyrgyzstan on the hunting shows with its own stand. There will be seeing a new generation of lokal outfitters, they speak very good german, englis,h france, who know the internet. This outfetters directly reach customers at the fairs, so the booking agency will not play a big role. It's just my opinion, for the future... Regards Igor | |||
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The terms for this hunt (16000USD Marco Polo) only in February. November is sold... | |||
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Hi 505 gibbs, yes the hunter from AR was in Kyrg. He has taken a very good ibex only in two days: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6108036/m/6341036461 Regads Igor | |||
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And the rebuttal... Care to finally answer SlvakianHunter on the other site? http://www.africahunting.com/g...tan-2.html#post38408 | |||
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What can you say to me personally? Or you are a lawyer ? Skotty, do not use the ears to listen to meaningless talk... | |||
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Igor, Can you explain the posts on the Africa Hunting Forum? You have an opportunity to offer a post of substance here rather than just downloaded photos.... | |||
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Gibbs, Do you have a problems with me? Or you a lawyer number two? If you dont intresting in the MP and ibex hunting in Kyrg, please dont wright in this thread. Best Regards Igor | |||
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Igor, I do not know enough to have a problem with you, however, as many outfitters on this site have found out, I have a vested interest in the offers on this forum in particular being as straight forward and honest as possible. I am a consumer, you are a supplier, my question to you stands. Can You explain the posts on the African Hunting Forum linked to above? | |||
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Breadford, I think you are not in the theater or the circus. If you have questions about the hunt, then I gladly answer. Therefore, please ask me about the hunt and about my offers. Regards Igor | |||
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I don't know Igor but wanted to say that there is a reply on aforementioned forum loosely translated with Google's Translate tool. The reply seems perfectly normal to me. It looks like the client is pissed about the delay but they are working on getting the papers together. These things happen all the time in that part of the world and if the outfitter wants to stay in business he/she will do everything possible to get the trophy to the client. You can't expect American service and pay Russian prices for it. | |||
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precisely. | |||
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I have no dog in this fight.....BUT, it seems like bad form (and bad business) for an outfitter to NOT address a fairly direct question regarding a public conflict with a client. Responding in an aggressive or defensive manner (eg. "What, are you a lawyer?") rather than simply saying, "Here is the situation and here is how I am working to make everything right" is enough to make many MANY people of any nationality happily pay "American prices" for a hunt. JMHO | |||
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My dog isn't in this race either but it seems that this stuff happens quite often reguardless of whom you book with. It seems that Igor has offered some quality hunts for a reasonable price here. He isn't American and perhaps doesn't understand our ways. He is trying to get US hunters to use his services. He will become better at understanding if given a chance. If I hadn't been dealing with Harv holleck for years I would have booked my Ibex hunt with him without a second thought. Hawkeye | |||
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