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You may be South African, but in the words of the great Jeremy Clarkson, "you're a cock". Now for the sake of clarity, lets have your name and profession first and foremost. Then maybe your location and where you have hunted. By the way, what sort of springbuck have you seen that can't cross a cattle fence. Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Ian, I have no dog in this fight, but I have seen springbok cross a cattle fence on numerous occations, I have even seen them dive through a 8 foot fence with the strands no more than 8 inches apart, and pulled real tight... Karl Stumpfe Ndumo Hunting Safaris www.huntingsafaris.net karl@huntingsafaris.net P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia Cell: +264 81 1285 416 Fax: +264 61 254 328 Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264 | |||
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Hi Karl Sorry, typo, it is meant to read can't. I agree with you 100% This chap clearly has no clue what he is talking about. I have seen a group of over 300 trek bokke cross fences like they weren't there. They move like a wave across the fences in the karoo. How else do they move from one farm to the next. My guess is another internet professor is having his fun. As I am sure he is going to come back with some interesting brain fart to support his convictions of there being no free range animals in SA, perhaps he can comment on the following species. Vaal Rhebok Common Reedbuck Mountain Reedbuck Red Duiker Blue Duiker Common Duiker Oribi Klip Springer Steenbuck Suni Warthog Bushpig Caracal Springbuck Eland Bushbuck Nyala Kudu All of the cats Hyena Jackal This list by the way is a list of free ranging species that occur in this country now. Populations that are the same today as they were 200 years ago. Populations that my ancestors hunted and which I hunt today. I am sure there are others too, but these are the ones I can think of right now So Porkus, lets hear it then. Where did you gather your information to comment on a country you clearly know bugger all about regardless of the fact that you apparently live here. Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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A sprinbuck that cant get through a low fence??? that is a fisrt!! Sorry mr porkus but I have seen that happen many times, maybe it was a poor fence..... Phillip du Plessis www.intrepidsafaris.com info@intrepidsafaris.co.za +27 83 633 5197 US cell 817 793 5168 | |||
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I'll take you on on this one. Lets organise a hunt for totaly free range, low fence Blesbok, Springbok and Bontebok. You will not see a high fence. When you kill them, you pay me trophy fees and day fees as listed on my web-site. If you see a high fence while we hunt, I pay the day fees and trophy fees of the game. You are VERY wrong about this....... Charl van Rooyen Owner Infinito Travel Group www.infinito-safaris.com charl@infinito-safaris.com Cell: +27 78 444 7661 Tel: +27 13 262 4077 Fax:+27 13 262 3845 Hereford Street 28A Groblersdal 0470 Limpopo R.S.A. "For the Infinite adventure" Plains Game Dangerous Game Bucket List Specialists Wing-Shooting In House Taxidermy Studio In House Dip and Pack Facility In House Shipping Service Non-Hunting Tours and Safaris Flight bookings "I promise every hunter visiting us our personal attention from the moment we meet you, until your trophies hang on your wall. Our all inclusive service chain means you work with one person (me) taking responsibility during the whole process. Affordable and reputable Hunting Safaris is our game! With a our all inclusive door to door service, who else do you want to have fun with?" South Africa Tanzania Uganda | |||
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I whitetail hunt on Drummond Island in Michigan. It is unfenced but totaly surrounded by water. I once had a guy tell me that it wasn't fair chase because we could herd all the deer to the beach and shoot them. Drummond is 87000 acres and so thick in places that you can't see the sun at noon.  Full time professional trapper | |||
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In South Africa, from what I have been told, if the landowner DOES NOT have a high cattle fence, then he cannot claim ownership of the animals, and therefore hunting them comes under the rules of the state, with state fees in addition to landowner fees. NRA Benefactor. Life is tough... It's even tougher when you're stupid... John Wayne | |||
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Again not the whole truth. The landowner can buy tags (like in the USA) and give permission to whoever wants to hunt the animals, and charge the hunter for doing so. Charl van Rooyen Owner Infinito Travel Group www.infinito-safaris.com charl@infinito-safaris.com Cell: +27 78 444 7661 Tel: +27 13 262 4077 Fax:+27 13 262 3845 Hereford Street 28A Groblersdal 0470 Limpopo R.S.A. "For the Infinite adventure" Plains Game Dangerous Game Bucket List Specialists Wing-Shooting In House Taxidermy Studio In House Dip and Pack Facility In House Shipping Service Non-Hunting Tours and Safaris Flight bookings "I promise every hunter visiting us our personal attention from the moment we meet you, until your trophies hang on your wall. Our all inclusive service chain means you work with one person (me) taking responsibility during the whole process. Affordable and reputable Hunting Safaris is our game! With a our all inclusive door to door service, who else do you want to have fun with?" South Africa Tanzania Uganda | |||
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@Charl: You show me a property where PURE bontebok are free roaming! What department issues permits for PURE free roaming bontebok as they have to be registered and a CAE (adequate enclosure certificate). And show me a bontebok /blesbuck that jumps a cattle/low fence?? Remember a low fence for some game is like a high fence for others!!
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What gets me is that outfitters are offering "exclusive free range hunting" in South Africa for ALL their plains game, They get spinned a story by these agents/outfitters at hunting shows and then get "bull^%#ed" when they get to South Africa. I see it happen all the time. I have nothing against large concessions, conservancies, ranches that are fenced/high fenced and animals a free roaming in large areas but don't sell something that is not!! | |||
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Hell "SWAER" but you have chosen the perfect name for yourself here on AR  Dave Davenport Outfitters license HC22/2012EC Pro Hunters license PH74/2012EC www.leopardsvalley.co.za dave@leopardsvalley.co.za +27 42 24 61388 HUNT AFRICA WHILE YOU STILL CAN Follow us on FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/#!/leopardsvalley.safaris | |||
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Porcus, you are a chop. You clealy dont know what you are talking about. Now, until you are willing to give me your name, I am not going to waste any time on you. Just another troll.  Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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From being called a "cock" and a "chop", it is funny when the truth hits home! There is very good hunting in SA even in "high fenced" areas, but don't run down creditable "high fenced" ranches/outfitters to sell so called exclusive "free range" hunting by operators. | |||
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Porcus - How do you know what they are selling isn't free-range? A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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