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I spent a great amount of time researching plains game hunts, talking to outfitters and ph's and put together what I thought was a great hunt. I put my deposit down and was to actually go on the hunt last week ( Oct. 2012). About 7 weeks ago I was diagnosed with terminal bladder cancer.

Well needless to say, hunting is now quite down on my priority list as I'm fighting for my life. I put down a deposit of $2400 USD, which is non refundable. I'm not physically going to be able to go on the hunt in 2012 or 2013 and I am trying to sell my hunt now that I might recoup my deposit.

The hunt is booked with Bushwhack Safaris in South Africa. I was actually still negotiating the package and had it down to two packages, one of which I was to choose prior to the hunt.

Details of the hunt;

5 Days 5 trophy feeç—´ for:
1 x Kudu
1 x Blue Wildebeest
1 x Impala
1 x Blesbuck
1 x Warthog
Price: US 4 390 1ï¾—1

or

5 days safari, 4 trophies

1. Kudu bull
2. Gemsbok bull
3. Impala ram
4. Warthog
5. Rifle included if not bringing your own

Price: US 4650.00


The hunt is fully transferable and can be done in 2012 or 2013. I have, and will provide a copy of the contract I have with Bushwhack Safaris. I will entertain reasonable offers and appreciate any help someone out there might have to help my and my family out of this most unfortunate situation.

Please send me a private message if you are interested.

Best regards,

John Ambrose
 
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Very sorry to hear about your diagnosis. 25 years ago my uncle received the same news, and was given 6 months to live. He beat it and we just got back from Tanzania last Sunday. Stay positive.


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C'mon guys, this thread deserves more attention than it's getting!

Carolinasman,

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Sorry to hear about your health, my prayers are with you.


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Prayers sent your way and I hope that you find somebody to fill your spot on the hunt
 
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John,
You are in my prayers.

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Sorry to her about your situation. You are in my prayers. Good luck with the sale of the hunt.


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Thanks Shakari..... I will entertain any offers on the hunt.... Otherwise I (my family) is out $2400........
 
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Always a pleasure to help a fellow hunter. Esp in his hour of need! tu2

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Terrible news, will be praying for the same outcome as the uncle of stormsgsp!

Just my opinion, if I were the outfitter I would refund the deposit without hesitation under these circumstances. You should not be burdened with selling the hunt!!!


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Just my opinion, if I were the outfitter I would refund the deposit without hesitation under these circumstances. You should not be burdened with selling the hunt!!!


I agree completely. Since this hunt is for 2012 or 2013 the outfitter has ample time to resell the hunt. Time to step up to the plate and help out a fellow hunter in his time of need.


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Personally I have no interest in ever booking a hunt with Bushwack Safaris. Their insistence on keeping a deposit under these circumstances is unconscionable and shows them to be completely without honor or integrity.

John, if you'll send me a private message or email to the address in my profile I'll compensate you for any loss you sustain on this deal. The last thing you should be worrying about right now is dealing with an unscrupulous safari operator.

Godspeed and best of luck to you. You're in my prayers.


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Originally posted by ForrestB:
Personally I have no interest in ever booking a hunt with Bushwack Safaris. Their insistence on keeping a deposit under these circumstances is unconscionable and shows them to be completely without honor or integrity.

John, if you'll send me a private message or email to the address in my profile I'll compensate you for any loss you sustain on this deal. The last thing you should be worrying about right now is dealing with an unscrupulous safari operator.

Godspeed and best of luck to you. You're in my prayers.


My friend, you are indeed a class act.

I cannot fathom why an Operator would not return your deposit. I wish you all the best with recovery.
 
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John,

Prayers sent !

Forrest B

God Bless you !


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Originally posted by ForrestB:
Personally I have no interest in ever booking a hunt with Bushwack Safaris. Their insistence on keeping a deposit under these circumstances is unconscionable and shows them to be completely without honor or integrity.

John, if you'll send me a private message or email to the address in my profile I'll compensate you for any loss you sustain on this deal. The last thing you should be worrying about right now is dealing with an unscrupulous safari operator.

Godspeed and best of luck to you. You're in my prayers.

tu2


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Forrest is indeed a class act!


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Prayer and a bump. Good luck with the sale and with your treatment.
 
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Originally posted by ForrestB:
Personally I have no interest in ever booking a hunt with Bushwack Safaris. Their insistence on keeping a deposit under these circumstances is unconscionable and shows them to be completely without honor or integrity.

John, if you'll send me a private message or email to the address in my profile I'll compensate you for any loss you sustain on this deal. The last thing you should be worrying about right now is dealing with an unscrupulous safari operator.

Godspeed and best of luck to you. You're in my prayers.


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Originally posted by ForrestB:
Personally I have no interest in ever booking a hunt with Bushwack Safaris. Their insistence on keeping a deposit under these circumstances is unconscionable and shows them to be completely without honor or integrity.

John, if you'll send me a private message or email to the address in my profile I'll compensate you for any loss you sustain on this deal. The last thing you should be worrying about right now is dealing with an unscrupulous safari operator.

Godspeed and best of luck to you. You're in my prayers.


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ForrestB, you're a true gentleman.
 
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Hi Carolinaman

My prayers are with you and i hope everything is ok with you.

ForrestB you n stand up guy when you ever in south africa and you have a few days free i will come and collect you in jhb and take you to my ranch for a few days and we maybe hunt an impala or something and thats on me.

Luan
 
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Forrest & Luan

You're a pair of true gentlemen. tu2






 
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Steve

You know better than to call me a gentleman.Im still waiting for you to come visit mate.

Luan
 
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I'll be over next year my friend.

I've got 2 or 3 hunts to do with old friends, after which I'll be finished and klaar and also want to look at a couple of classic cars to see if they're suitable for importing into here to sell on........ so you can probably expect me to pitch up in something like an old Merc SL or maybe a Mustang. tu2

'Er indoors is not impressed with that plan! jumping






 
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There are some stand up men that visit this site.
My hats off to you guys.
 
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Originally posted by ForrestB:
Personally I have no interest in ever booking a hunt with Bushwack Safaris. Their insistence on keeping a deposit under these circumstances is unconscionable and shows them to be completely without honor or integrity.

John, if you'll send me a private message or email to the address in my profile I'll compensate you for any loss you sustain on this deal. The last thing you should be worrying about right now is dealing with an unscrupulous safari operator.

Godspeed and best of luck to you. You're in my prayers.


I am so honored to know you sir!


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I't amazing to me how we will send thousands of dollars to a PH who needs surgery, but only one person has offered to help a man who's been diagnosed with terminal cancer. Some have even said that a contract is binding and the outfitter shouldn't be out any money, give me a break!

I'm in and if he is out any cash I'll send Forrestb 200.00 to help out, who else is in?


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I'll match Jerry, if you don't sell it or Can't recover from the PH.
If I had a client with this circumstance I'd refund no questions.
It's rare in this matter, Right is Right.
DENNIS

My wife just had her spleen removed and half her Pancreas , we don't know if it's cancer yet. SO this hits HOME.

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Who else knows when right is right?


Ya, I have been just mouthy enough on the other thread to put my money where my mouth is. I can therefore spare $100 for the cause if it becomes necessary due to the outfitters continued refusal. Just let me know where to send it.
 
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Originally posted by ForrestB:
Personally I have no interest in ever booking a hunt with Bushwack Safaris. Their insistence on keeping a deposit under these circumstances is unconscionable and shows them to be completely without honor or integrity.

John, if you'll send me a private message or email to the address in my profile I'll compensate you for any loss you sustain on this deal. The last thing you should be worrying about right now is dealing with an unscrupulous safari operator.

Godspeed and best of luck to you. You're in my prayers.


John,

You are in our thoughts and prayers...God bless you and your family.

Forrest,

Your generosity has always inspired....I know you have a big heart and soul...Please put me down for 1/2 of what needs to be care of for John's deposit refund...

Best,

jjs
 
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Very generous of you guys to help out Carolinasman. Sorry to hear about your situation John...
 
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...put me down for 1/2 of what needs to be care of for John's deposit refund...

Best,

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Jim, I'll put you down for 1/3 of what we need to pay. I've already had another request to split the amount left to be paid.

Thank you and thank you to the other fellows who have offered to join in the love-fest. I'll keep you posted with the details.

Forrest


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HI ForestB

Im in for you and the other two guys same offer.
Anytime you guys in sa you are more then welcome.

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I have been in the hospital for a while and unable to access the internet, I am truly amazed at the generously, wow.... I'm wiping tears from my eyes. I will try again with the outfitter in another plea for my deposit before I accept any charity. Thank you all very much for your kind words, you've restored faith in men for me, I am truly, truly touched.

Regards,

John
 
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Put me down for $200 as well. Everyone needs a break now and then.

Just send me a PM of details.

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Trust me, what I have learned from Accurate Reloading has saved me more than $200.00. I am just spending a bit of money to make a deposit in my karma account.

Maybe others can learn as well.

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No sense in you guys doing it all. Count me in for $200.00.

+1 on that Kharma thang!

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Carolina, Just do this, I'm still in and I'm sure more are also, Let us cover you and make it right. THEN you GIVE the hunt away to someone that would enjoy the heck out fo it......If they want to hunt with this Outfit. I'd think by now word would have gotten out to him to pony up. But We have your back!
I would not have any problem with this.
Anyone else?
 
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I have no problem with that. I have no problem with us covering Carolinasman's deposit, and he can decide what to do. I am sure there are plenty of other things on his mind.


Cheers and Best Wishes Carolinasman!

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Originally posted by Jerry Huffaker:
I't amazing to me how we will send thousands of dollars to a PH who needs surgery, but only one person has offered to help a man who's been diagnosed with terminal cancer. Some have even said that a contract is binding and the outfitter shouldn't be out any money, give me a break!

I'm in and if he is out any cash I'll send Forrestb 200.00 to help out, who else is in?


Just got back in town and read this. I'm in too Jerry. Please keep me posted on when/where to send $$$. My thoughts and prayers are with the gentlemen as well.
 
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