New Golbal Entry Card showed up in the mail yesterday about ten days after I got notice that my renewal application was approved. Then you have to go to the DHS website to activate the new card.

Received notice 2 weeks ago my Global Entry has been revoked. Like Larry, no explanation followed. This came in 3 months after our return from an RSA hunt. Wife still has hers so guess someone didn't like me traveling with rifles. Sure isn't from anything other then that option.

Just thinking.

Which airport did Larry and TNTBR clear customs when entering the USA?

Just maybe it is one of the workers who is turning you men in to have your Global Entry looked at.

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Originally posted by Bwana338:
Just thinking.

Which airport did Larry and TNTBR clear customs when entering the USA?

Just maybe it is one of the workers who is turning you men in to have your Global Entry looked at.

Return we cleared in Newark.

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Originally posted by Bwana338:
Just thinking.

Which airport did Larry and TNTBR clear customs when entering the USA?

Just maybe it is one of the workers who is turning you men in to have your Global Entry looked at.

That is what I think as well. I had 3 guys with badges stop me prior to boarding an Emirates flight in Orlando. They were questioning me about my guns and my trip . The questions were the same kind of questions I hear them asking on the TV show “To Catch a Smuggler.”

I have a law firm in DC handling the appeal for me . I just made my first domestic trip since this happened. I no longer have TSA Pre Check either . That is a massive problem for me.

I lost TSA precheck as well Larry. Have an appointment on the 25th of Feb to try and get this figured out.

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Originally posted by TNTBR:
I lost TSA precheck as well Larry. Have an appointment on the 25th of Feb to try and get this figured out.

Aren’t we lucky.

Get Clear.

Clear is not in all airports. I do not think it is international.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Clear is not in all airports. I do not think it is international.

Your correct it’s not at all airports, but its at the larger ones. And it’s not a replacement for Global Entry, but would be for precheck. And some airports have special Clear & TSA lane.

Why is it so complicated to get through immigration in the US now?

Used to be very easy, and the officers were so friendly!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Why is it so complicated to get through immigration in the US now?

Used to be very easy, and the officers were so friendly!

It’s really easy if you just swim across from Mexico.

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Originally posted by Wesheltonj:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Clear is not in all airports. I do not think it is international.

Your correct it’s not at all airports, but its at the larger ones. And it’s not a replacement for Global Entry, but would be for precheck. And some airports have special Clear & TSA lane.

I have Clear and have had it for years . I used it Tuesday when I flew out . It takes a lot longer than pre check.’ Still a lot less than the regular line .

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Why is it so complicated to get through immigration in the US now?

Used to be very easy, and the officers were so friendly!

It isn’t very difficult. The problem is the lines. They can take forever to get through . Global Entry gets us around the lines .

In many countries, they have organized meet and greet companies that get you through very fast.

You have to pay for it, and it works.

The US is one of the countries that does not allow it.

I flew to Canada with my daughter.

I was told to book one of these companies, as the lines are very bad.

I did.

We landed, and we were told to remain in the plane, as the immigration hall was full!!??

We remained in the plane for about 20 minutes.

Out of the plane we were met by our representative, got into the immigration hall, which was absolutely packed!

He took us to the side, one immigration desk, processed our passports, and out in less than 2 minutes!

Saeed,
We in the USA take security very serious. You can tell by the highly intelligent people we hire for TSA. They all have a very high IQ, higher than a doughnut. They all read, write, and speak perfect English, however with a bit of a Nigerian accent. They are highly trained in how to profile potential problems - like pulling my grandmother wife out of line to interrogate her for bring a Barbie doll dressed in camp on a plane.

Now you know why we so, so concerned about security. It is a high priority in the USA….

Be afraid, be very afraid…

Homeland security is being contacted by a congressman today. It might get interesting.

Damn, I sure can't wait to hear what happens with this. They stirred up the shit when they did this to you my friend! And, it sounds like it has happened to a number of other hunters here on AR as well. I hope that they too can get some clear answers. You might be able to bust the chops of some of these liberal antis. They had better have some factual no-nonsense justification for this.

Interesting - my wife and I recently applied for Global Entry, she was approved in two days - my application is still "pending review" 3 weeks later. I'm also currently TSA PreCheck approved.

And I have travelled via airline with firearms (she has not)...I sense something of a trend.

Good luck Larry.

My wife was just approved for her renewal.

Larry, you obviously are a security risk…

Well, yeah… she’s a doctor

Profiling fail!

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Homeland security is being contacted by a congressman today. It might get interesting.

Spoke with our Senator a bit ago. He is looking into it.

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Originally posted by Neil A:
Interesting - my wife and I recently applied for Global Entry, she was approved in two days - my application is still "pending review" 3 weeks later. I'm also currently TSA PreCheck approved.

And I have travelled via airline with firearms (she has not)...I sense something of a trend.

Good luck Larry.

Same thing happened to me and my wife, but it took almost nine months for my approval.

I believe there is certainly a trend.

My wife went to her in-person interview today, and was approved. My application is still "pending review"...I've seen this kind of government efficiency at work before.

It has nothing to do with an inefficient federal bureaucracy, it has everything to do with an anti gun attitude among people within the bureaucracy.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
It has nothing to do with an inefficient federal bureaucracy, it has everything to do with an anti gun attitude among people within the bureaucracy.

I believe that to be true.

It was really odd one trip from Argentina when I came back through Miami and got the dreaded XXX at immigration. This was prior to my GE.

Upon going to the CBP officer in the glass box, I was asked why I traveled to Argentina so much. Without being a smartass, I replied “how do you define so much”? Maybe it came across as a smartass comment, but I already had the XXX and it was about 6:30am and I can’t sleep on planes. However, I’m always respectful.

I was sent to a room and forced to face a wall and could only look at a DHS/CBP video on a loop. Phones and books were not allowed. It was obvious that I was the only US citizen. I was there two hours. When I finally had my chance to be further “interrogated,” I was also respectful. They asked why I went to Argentina, my job, address, etc. they already knew all that, but not why I went to Argentina. I said have friends and a girlfriend there. They wanted to know names, which I politely told them no and explain why I’m being detained.

“Detained” is key for any lawyer or constitutional scholar. I never got an answer, but never felt I was free to leave. I also knew that raising hell makes things worse, despite being right. I never got an answer and would have to go higher up to learn why.

I did get my Global Entry shortly thereafter, but it was messed up because I have a suffix after my name, which was then corrected.

Damn horror story!

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Originally posted by DCS Member:
It was really odd one trip from Argentina when I came back through Miami and got the dreaded XXX at immigration. This was prior to my GE.

Upon going to the CBP officer in the glass box, I was asked why I traveled to Argentina so much. Without being a smartass, I replied “how do you define so much”? Maybe it came across as a smartass comment, but I already had the XXX and it was about 6:30am and I can’t sleep on planes. However, I’m always respectful.

I was sent to a room and forced to face a wall and could only look at a DHS/CBP video on a loop. Phones and books were not allowed. It was obvious that I was the only US citizen. I was there two hours. When I finally had my chance to be further “interrogated,” I was also respectful. They asked why I went to Argentina, my job, address, etc. they already knew all that, but not why I went to Argentina. I said have friends and a girlfriend there. They wanted to know names, which I politely told them no and explain why I’m being detained.

“Detained” is key for any lawyer or constitutional scholar. I never got an answer, but never felt I was free to leave. I also knew that raising hell makes things worse, despite being right. I never got an answer and would have to go higher up to learn why.

I did get my Global Entry shortly thereafter, but it was messed up because I have a suffix after my name, which was then corrected.

We were flying through NYC with guns. Headed to Spain if I recall correctly. We were escorted to an interrogation room. No reason given.

We were just sitting there. No one was saying anything to us. After a while, I said to one of the officer, “I love watching the smuggling shows filmed here for Nat Geo.” A couple of officers came over . I went on to talk about a very memorable case I had seen on TV involving a kid. One of the officers said he worked on the case and that he was still puzzled by it.

They made a few minutes of small talk. Then we were allowed to leave . No explanation given.

Any update on your case, Larry?

Not yet. Waiting on Homeland Security to respond to the Congressman’s inquiry.

I still haven’t received my new GE card, but hope the number is the same, unlike passports.

At least in Texas, your ID numbers remain the same throughout renewals.

Here is the response received form the authorities:

Thank you for your inquiry. Please forgive the delay in our response time – we are currently working a higher-than-usual volume of Global Entry casework and in the interest of fairness we are addressing each case in the order in which it was received.

A review of CBP records indicate Mr. Shores’ membership in Global Entry was revoked on Jan. 28, 2022, because he does not meet the program eligibility requirements. Once any TTP application is denied or any membership revoked, the Office of the CBP Ombudsman assumes complete jurisdiction of the matter.

Therefore, the reconsideration request for the Trusted Traveler Program (TTP), along with related documents (e.g., letter of denial; summary of information to further clarify a record or explain an incident of arrest; court disposition documentation in PDF format for all arrests and convictions - even if expunged - and/or other supporting documentation that the applicant may feel may influence the Ombudsman’s decision to support his reconsideration request) must be reviewed by the Office of the CBP Ombudsman. Applicants requesting reconsideration must log into their account on the TTP website https://ttp.cbp.dhs.gov/ and click on the “Reconsideration Requests” button on the TTP Dashboard, in order to submit the request. Additional information can be located at https://help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-1150.

Reconsideration Requests and attachments to the Ombudsman should be in English and must include the following details:

• Date of denial and denial reason(s) from this letter.
• Summary of information to further clarify a record or explain an incident or arrest;
• Court disposition documentation in PDF format for all arrests or convictions, even if expunged; and/or
• Other supporting documentation you feel may influence the Ombudsman's decision. Supported formats: PDF, DOCX, DOC, PNG, JPEG, and GIF.
• If the reason for the denial is unknown to the applicant, a statement saying as such, as well as a well-prepared case as for why the applicant should be considered low risk, can be added in place of the above information.

Having a criminal record or past violation of CBP laws/regulations/policies may render the applicant ineligible for participation in all trusted traveler programs. These programs have strict criteria for participation.

CBP records indicate that Mr. Shores’ request for reconsideration was submitted on Jan. 28, 2022. Processing time for program denials escalated to the CBP Ombudsman are taking, on average, 90 days. This is not because it takes this long to complete a review of the request, but rather this reflects the time it takes for a request to travel from the back of the queue to the front.

Once the request for reconsideration has been sent to the Ombudsman, we are unfortunately unable to assist any further, as the Ombudsman is a neutral third party that needs to remain impartial to any influences on a case. Their purpose is to make a decision solely based on the merits of the case. For this reason, we do not have the ability to contact the Ombudsman.

Once the Ombudsman has completed their review of Mr. Shores’ case, they will reach out to him directly with their findings. For this reason, we consider this inquiry addressed and we kindly request that your office refrain from requesting additional updates from OCA so that we may focus our time and resources to addressing new and unasnwered inquiries, and because we will not have any additional information that has not already been presented.

In the event that additional concerns exist, we recommend that your constituents contact the CBP Info Center at (877) 227-5511, who will be able to assist specifically with TTP account issues. In addition, the TTP help desk can be reached at (855) 873-4637. It should be noted that both of these lines experience high volumes of calls, so they may not get through on their first attempt.

It should be noted however, being denied from participating in any of the Trusted Traveler Programs does not prohibit anyone from being able to travel, although they are not permitted to use TTP-dedicated lanes.

Please note CBP offers additional tools for use by air travelers to help cut some time off a return to the US. Additional information can be found by visit https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/apc for information on CBP’s Automated Passport Control kiosks, and https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-...ile-passport-control for more information on CBP’s Mobile Passport Control app, both of which are time-saving tools implemented by CBP to help passengers process Customs quicker and easier. (Please note use of either or both of these measures may not automatically preclude any traveler from additional/secondary screening).

We apologize for any inconvenience and that we are not able to provide additional information.

NOTE: Should your office at any point in the future have a constituent seek to file an inquiry regarding Global Entry, SENTRI, NEXUS or FAST denial/revocation without first having requested reconsideration with and subsequently receiving a response from the Ombudsman, please instruct them to follow the steps provided above and/or in their denial/revocation notice. Once they receive a response from the Ombudsman, then submit the inquiry to CBP, but not before a response is received. As stated above, requesting reconsideration with the Ombudsman is the only course of action following a denial or revocation, and OCA does not have the ability or authority to act once a request has been submitted.

I hope this resolves the matter in question.

V/R,

Jay Bishop
Office of Congressional Affairs | U.S. Customs and Border Protection
1300 Pennsylvania Ave N.W. | Washington, D.C. 20229

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Having a criminal record or past violation of CBP laws/regulations/policies may render the applicant ineligible for participation in all trusted traveler programs. These programs have strict criteria for participation.

I think is the key question - I assume you don't have a criminal record Larry ...so I wonder what "policy" may have been adopted (in regulatory world it's called a desk drawer rule, not official - but the "way we do things") regarding approval of people who have traveled with firearms? Or involved in the "wrong" organizations like SCI or the NRA for instance. All of course patently illegal but that hasn't stopped the federal government before.

My application, now 6 weeks later, is still "pending review" whereas my wife has already had her in-person interview and been approved for the program. We filed our applications one day apart, so the whole "we process these in the order they come in" reference is clearly not true. Her online approval happened 3 days after she filed. And no, I don't have a criminal record or ever had a past violation (I'm TSA Pre approved), but I likely have violated their "policy" regarding nasty firearm travel...

Good grief!!!

Now you know why nothing to do with the government works!

I picked up on the Criminal record for a Larry Shores doing a Search.

There are actually a few Larry Shores out there living and dead. Just thinking that they did not pull up the correct one.

So how did the Government agent that reviewed your Global Entry link you and the other Larry Shores together.

It appears that who ever did your name search probably pulled up Larry Shores and there appears to be some criminal activity linked to the name. The government agent did not do a fine search and just denied you on that general search.

Until you know what information/data was used to determine that your Global Entry should be denied, it will be hard to defend yourself.

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Originally posted by larryshores:

• If the reason for the denial is unknown to the applicant, a statement saying as such, as well as a well-prepared case as for why the applicant should be considered low risk, can be added in place of the above information.

Truly unbelievable.

I'll stand in line before I'll let some officious bureaucrat try to make me prove that I am "low risk" - whatever that means.

The only criterion should be no criminal record.

Full stop.