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Originally posted by Dennis Earl Smith:
Please, I don't know the ACOG? Thank you.

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ACOG
American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
ACOG is a nonprofit organization of women's health care physicians advocating highest standards of practice, continuing member education and public ...
www.acog.org

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I am hoping he meant the ACGG, American Custom Gunmakers Guild

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Originally posted by Jim Kobe:
We are going to Dallas in 2012 but only as group without being santioned by the ACGG; we are going as individual members of the ACGG.

It is still only a rumor that we will be in Dallas in 2013, not a final determination as yet. There is a bunch of stuff to be done before a decision is made.

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
The Story I have heard is that the Guild show will be in Dallas in 2013. They will have their own area at the Dallas Safari Show.
I think this will be a good move for the Guild.

Sad thing is that the Guild is supposed to be in Reno next year, whise SCI will be in Vegas...

I think it would be a good idea for as many Guild members as possible to come to Dallas in 2012, much more exposure.

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Originally posted by Al Lind:
THIS IS NOT TRUE! I am still the current President of the ACGG and the decision has NOT been made - it is still in committee. We definitely will be in Reno next year but where we will be in 2013 and beyond is still in the air. Al

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Originally posted by Dennis Earl Smith:
Please, I don't know the ACOG? Thank you.

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Originally posted by Al Lind:
THIS IS NOT TRUE! I am still the current President of the ACGG and the decision has NOT been made - it is still in committee. We definitely will be in Reno next year but where we will be in 2013 and beyond is still in the air. Al

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Originally posted by ForrestB:
I love and support the ACGG. I've been an associate member for a long time now and I really enjoy going to their annual show. So, I want to say this in the nicest, most respectful way possible: as a group, the ACGG is as dumb as a sack of shit.

They've always treated their annual convention more as an inwardly-focused homecoming than an outwardly-focused marketing event. They've done the same old, same old for so long they are blind to new ideas for the convention.

SCI treats them as a money-siphoning step child in Reno (or Las Vegas, or wherever). The ACGG owes it to themselves to at least try DSC (and by "try", I mean commit to 2-3 yrs straight). ACGG needs to be "inside the tent" with the DSC, not outside at some dump venue in Reno while SCI has all the action going on at an attractive venue across town. I'd wager more people stop in at individual gunsmith's booths at SCI than the entire paid attendence at the ACGG show.

There are maybe 500 paid attendees at the ACGG show each year and of these MAYBE 200 could afford to write a check for a $15,000 rifle. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the numbers and demographics of those attending the DSC convention.

The average age of the regular members of the ACGG goes up every year like clockwork. There's a revolving door of part-timers and new guys with little talent and little chance that come and go every few years. As a group, they've made the unconscious decision to become increasingly irrelevent. They have a new opportunity with DSC and I hope for the sake of the ACGG, they don't just blow it (again).

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
what is fega? Is it like fettucine?

Rich

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Originally posted by ForrestB:
I love and support the ACGG. I've been an associate member for a long time now and I really enjoy going to their annual show. So, I want to say this in the nicest, most respectful way possible: as a group, the ACGG is as dumb as a sack of shit.

They've always treated their annual convention more as an inwardly-focused homecoming than an outwardly-focused marketing event. They've done the same old, same old for so long they are blind to new ideas for the convention.

SCI treats them as a money-siphoning step child in Reno (or Las Vegas, or wherever). The ACGG owes it to themselves to at least try DSC (and by "try", I mean commit to 2-3 yrs straight). ACGG needs to be "inside the tent" with the DSC, not outside at some dump venue in Reno while SCI has all the action going on at an attractive venue across town. I'd wager more people stop in at individual gunsmith's booths at SCI than the entire paid attendence at the ACGG show.

There are maybe 500 paid attendees at the ACGG show each year and of these MAYBE 200 could afford to write a check for a $15,000 rifle. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the numbers and demographics of those attending the DSC convention.

The average age of the regular members of the ACGG goes up every year like clockwork. There's a revolving door of part-timers and new guys with little talent and little chance that come and go every few years. As a group, they've made the unconscious decision to become increasingly irrelevent. They have a new opportunity with DSC and I hope for the sake of the ACGG, they don't just blow it (again).

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Originally posted by Craftsman:
I have attended two ACGG shows in Reno. Met a few guild members. Was an associate member for a time. I admire and try to study guild quality work as much as I can.

I have been to the Dallas Safari Club show in Dallas many times. It is an annual treat for myself and some friends.

I think after the ACGG comes to Dallas, most of them will look back at the shows at Reno and ask "what the hell were we thinking?"

Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now!
DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set.