Great ACGG News!

16 February 2011, 21:08

JBrown

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis Earl Smith:
Please, I don't know the ACOG? Thank you.

According to Google:

quote:

ACOG
American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
ACOG is a nonprofit organization of women's health care physicians advocating highest standards of practice, continuing member education and public ...
www.acog.org

I'm guessing that is not what he meant to type?

Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

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Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown

16 February 2011, 21:26

Jim Kobe

I am hoping he meant the ACGG, American Custom Gunmakers Guild

And looking forward to it!

Jim

16 February 2011, 21:28

ramrod340

quote:
I am hoping he meant the ACGG, American Custom Gunmakers Guild

That was my guess.

16 February 2011, 21:52

Jim Kobe

We are going to Dallas in 2012 but only as group without being santioned by the ACGG; we are going as individual members of the ACGG.

It is still only a rumor that we will be in Dallas in 2013, not a final determination as yet. There is a bunch of stuff to be done before a decision is made.

16 February 2011, 22:37

Boss Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Kobe:
We are going to Dallas in 2012 but only as group without being santioned by the ACGG; we are going as individual members of the ACGG.

It is still only a rumor that we will be in Dallas in 2013, not a final determination as yet. There is a bunch of stuff to be done before a decision is made.

Jim---The vote was taken and it is Dallas in 2013.. My Smith informed me yesterday---did not know it was not announced yet.

16 February 2011, 22:50

Boss Hoss

Jim---bring guns to the SCI Show next Jan and I will bring $$$$$!!!

16 February 2011, 23:15

N E 450 No2

The Story I have heard is that the Guild show will be in Dallas in 2013. They will have their own area at the Dallas Safari Show.
I think this will be a good move for the Guild.

Sad thing is that the Guild is supposed to be in Reno next year, whise SCI will be in Vegas...

I think it would be a good idea for as many Guild members as possible to come to Dallas in 2012, much more exposure.

16 February 2011, 23:41

Boss Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
The Story I have heard is that the Guild show will be in Dallas in 2013. They will have their own area at the Dallas Safari Show.
I think this will be a good move for the Guild.

Sad thing is that the Guild is supposed to be in Reno next year, whise SCI will be in Vegas...

I think it would be a good idea for as many Guild members as possible to come to Dallas in 2012, much more exposure.

Could not agree more----been telling my Smith that for years!!!!! Finally Yeah----the only thing missing in Dallas is Gambling and we are working on that!!!

17 February 2011, 01:01

Jim Kobe

I hear what you ;guys are trying to say but.

IT IS NOT A DONE DEAL!!!

The proposal is out but the final determination has NOT been made.

17 February 2011, 01:35

Al Lind

THIS IS NOT TRUE! I am still the current President of the ACGG and the decision has NOT been made - it is still in committee. We definitely will be in Reno next year but where we will be in 2013 and beyond is still in the air. Al

17 February 2011, 03:04

J.D.Steele

quote:
Originally posted by Al Lind:
THIS IS NOT TRUE! I am still the current President of the ACGG and the decision has NOT been made - it is still in committee. We definitely will be in Reno next year but where we will be in 2013 and beyond is still in the air. Al

Hope you guys come a little further East, Al!
Regards, Joe

17 February 2011, 04:59

J Bennett

Mr Lind

Thank you for the update and welcome to the forum.
I agree with Joe. A little further East would be great.

James

17 February 2011, 21:48

McKay

That's a bummer it is not moving with SCI or going to Dallas for 2012. I would think the attendence will be way down for the ACGG in reno next year.

17 February 2011, 22:01

Boss Hoss

SCI is in Dallas as well-----the Vendors and others just go to Reno next.

17 February 2011, 22:13

Duckear

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis Earl Smith:
Please, I don't know the ACOG? Thank you.

Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight

17 February 2011, 22:46

ForrestB

I love and support the ACGG. I've been an associate member for a long time now and I really enjoy going to their annual show. So, I want to say this in the nicest, most respectful way possible: as a group, the ACGG is as dumb as a sack of shit.

They've always treated their annual convention more as an inwardly-focused homecoming than an outwardly-focused marketing event. They've done the same old, same old for so long they are blind to new ideas for the convention.

SCI treats them as a money-siphoning step child in Reno (or Las Vegas, or wherever). The ACGG owes it to themselves to at least try DSC (and by "try", I mean commit to 2-3 yrs straight). ACGG needs to be "inside the tent" with the DSC, not outside at some dump venue in Reno while SCI has all the action going on at an attractive venue across town. I'd wager more people stop in at individual gunsmith's booths at SCI than the entire paid attendence at the ACGG show.

There are maybe 500 paid attendees at the ACGG show each year and of these MAYBE 200 could afford to write a check for a $15,000 rifle. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the numbers and demographics of those attending the DSC convention.

The average age of the regular members of the ACGG goes up every year like clockwork. There's a revolving door of part-timers and new guys with little talent and little chance that come and go every few years. As a group, they've made the unconscious decision to become increasingly irrelevent. They have a new opportunity with DSC and I hope for the sake of the ACGG, they don't just blow it (again).

18 February 2011, 00:07

22WRF

quote:
Originally posted by Al Lind:
THIS IS NOT TRUE! I am still the current President of the ACGG and the decision has NOT been made - it is still in committee. We definitely will be in Reno next year but where we will be in 2013 and beyond is still in the air. Al

Al,

Now that you soon will not have to spend time on duties associated with being the President of the ACGG, maybe you could hang out around here a bit more and answer stockmaking questions.

18 February 2011, 06:43

FMC

quote:
Originally posted by ForrestB:
I love and support the ACGG. I've been an associate member for a long time now and I really enjoy going to their annual show. So, I want to say this in the nicest, most respectful way possible: as a group, the ACGG is as dumb as a sack of shit.

They've always treated their annual convention more as an inwardly-focused homecoming than an outwardly-focused marketing event. They've done the same old, same old for so long they are blind to new ideas for the convention.

SCI treats them as a money-siphoning step child in Reno (or Las Vegas, or wherever). The ACGG owes it to themselves to at least try DSC (and by "try", I mean commit to 2-3 yrs straight). ACGG needs to be "inside the tent" with the DSC, not outside at some dump venue in Reno while SCI has all the action going on at an attractive venue across town. I'd wager more people stop in at individual gunsmith's booths at SCI than the entire paid attendence at the ACGG show.

There are maybe 500 paid attendees at the ACGG show each year and of these MAYBE 200 could afford to write a check for a $15,000 rifle. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the numbers and demographics of those attending the DSC convention.

The average age of the regular members of the ACGG goes up every year like clockwork. There's a revolving door of part-timers and new guys with little talent and little chance that come and go every few years. As a group, they've made the unconscious decision to become increasingly irrelevent. They have a new opportunity with DSC and I hope for the sake of the ACGG, they don't just blow it (again).

You speak with "wing-ed" words....unlike the usual Tejas sugarcoating one encounters whilst "visiting"......is there a "yankee" in the wood-pile........

18 February 2011, 07:04

fla3006

I'm glad if it's true. I think Dallas will be mutually beneficial.

Welcome to the forum Mr. Lind, hope you will post often.

18 February 2011, 07:14

Duane Wiebe

Good God! Let's get on focus (fuckus) Most of the members of the ACGG want to go to Dallas. The ACGG has a partnership agreement with the FEGA. The "powers" in the FEGA want to do NOTHING (This..is of course safe thing to do).

The ACGG is..collectively..I belive... don't give a shit if the FEGA wants to move to Dallas or not. "Come along if you want to..FEGA, You're welcome...but don't expect the ACGG to "suck up" to any perceived demand of FEGA.....this is, of course, only my own humble opinion". (disclaimer)

18 February 2011, 07:26

Duane Wiebe

A "home run" has emerged in the ranks of the ACGG. This past annual meeting has seen three BOD members "opted out" and three officers being replaced.

This is a new beginning..I hope and pray for the "good of the order"

The nominees to the BOD..well..it 's hard to choose..so many great nominees.

Chuck Grace is the new unapposed president. Glen Fewless VP...these guys will lead the ACGG into a new beginning with not a look backward...watch this space!

18 February 2011, 08:38

22WRF

Were there any people who post regularly here on AR that were accepted into the guild this year?

and

Just out of curiosity, who are the leaders of the FEGA?

18 February 2011, 09:10

Idaho Sharpshooter

what is fega? Is it like fettucine?

Rich

18 February 2011, 10:35

Boxhead

quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
what is fega? Is it like fettucine?

Rich

They are the folks that whittle away at steel canvas with little sharp objects I believe.

18 February 2011, 10:43

jjs

I agree, it sure would be nice to seem the ACGG members/show at the DSC convention.

Without AR and a few of the good friends I meet here, I would have never had the opportunity of learning anything about custom guns and options available.

I finally had my first true custom built by an ACGG member this past year...without this site and my good friends here that would not have happened.

Would love to see the ACGG show in Dallas next year, if not possible in 2012, it sure would be nice to see a few ACGG members attending!!

18 February 2011, 18:40

srtrax

I've thought about going to the DSC, just never made the trip. Now, if the ACGG was there that would trip my trigger enough to get up off my ass and go. I think it could benifit both groups...wouldnt mind seeing some steel carvers there also!

18 February 2011, 19:43

N E 450 No2

I do not she how it would not be good for the Guild show to move to the DSC show.

I have been to the Guild show in Reno the last 3 years.

My wife and her sisters had more people at their garage sales...

18 February 2011, 19:51

skb

22WRF,
I was just accepted as a metalsmith this year.
Steve Bertram
http://www.bertramandco.com/

18 February 2011, 20:02

Dennis Earl Smith

As Jim Kobe posted above, several(exact number not known yet) individual members of the ACGG and FEGA are planning on attending the DSC 2012 exhibition. The planning stage is still in process and there is nothing else known specifically now except that several members have committed to attend...this is NOT an ACGG/FEGA event.... just individual craftsmen/women agreeing to attend together. We have a year to get ready for this adventure.

05 March 2011, 06:38

lb404

Dennis, good to see you post. I used to go to the guild show and banquet every year. Things didn't seem to be different year to year and I quit going. Reno is way too difficult to get to. If it goes to Dallas, I may return.

07 March 2011, 01:32

katiesguns

Dennis--Everyone would sure like to see you in Tulsa. I have plenty of room at my tables if you want to come.

Gar

07 March 2011, 08:57

Dennis Earl Smith

Thank you Gar! I have table space already in the works. Always good to have a backup plan though.

22 April 2011, 08:46

hst

Gentlemen:

It is now official. Barring the unforeseen, the 2013 American Custom Gunmakers Guild exposition will indeed be held in Dallas. The Guild show will be a separate entity inside the Dallas Safari Club show. We hope many of you will join us there.

The 2012 show will still be in Reno, and we hope you will come and visit us there as well. Reno may not be as gaudy a venue as DSC, but it won't have the chaos I expect at DSC. If you want to spend some quality time talking to a room full of fine gunmakers, next January in Reno is your chance.

Please visit our website at:

http://www.acgg.org/

Respectfully,

Glenn Fewless
Vice President, ACGG

24 April 2011, 22:06

Boss Hoss

Yeah!!!

25 April 2011, 05:46

Howard

quote:
Originally posted by ForrestB:
I love and support the ACGG. I've been an associate member for a long time now and I really enjoy going to their annual show. So, I want to say this in the nicest, most respectful way possible: as a group, the ACGG is as dumb as a sack of shit.

They've always treated their annual convention more as an inwardly-focused homecoming than an outwardly-focused marketing event. They've done the same old, same old for so long they are blind to new ideas for the convention.

SCI treats them as a money-siphoning step child in Reno (or Las Vegas, or wherever). The ACGG owes it to themselves to at least try DSC (and by "try", I mean commit to 2-3 yrs straight). ACGG needs to be "inside the tent" with the DSC, not outside at some dump venue in Reno while SCI has all the action going on at an attractive venue across town. I'd wager more people stop in at individual gunsmith's booths at SCI than the entire paid attendence at the ACGG show.

There are maybe 500 paid attendees at the ACGG show each year and of these MAYBE 200 could afford to write a check for a $15,000 rifle. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the numbers and demographics of those attending the DSC convention.

The average age of the regular members of the ACGG goes up every year like clockwork. There's a revolving door of part-timers and new guys with little talent and little chance that come and go every few years. As a group, they've made the unconscious decision to become increasingly irrelevent. They have a new opportunity with DSC and I hope for the sake of the ACGG, they don't just blow it (again).

Forrest you eloquently stated what seems obvious to virtually everyone except Guild members.

25 April 2011, 07:12

Craftsman

I have attended two ACGG shows in Reno. Met a few guild members. Was an associate member for a time. I admire and try to study guild quality work as much as I can.

I have been to the Dallas Safari Club show in Dallas many times. It is an annual treat for myself and some friends.

I think after the ACGG comes to Dallas, most of them will look back at the shows at Reno and ask "what the hell were we thinking?"

25 April 2011, 07:26

308Sako

quote:
Originally posted by Craftsman:
I have attended two ACGG shows in Reno. Met a few guild members. Was an associate member for a time. I admire and try to study guild quality work as much as I can.

I have been to the Dallas Safari Club show in Dallas many times. It is an annual treat for myself and some friends.

I think after the ACGG comes to Dallas, most of them will look back at the shows at Reno and ask "what the hell were we thinking?"

Something that I must agree with... Being inside the show can only lead to a much greater appreciation for the work, and availability of that work.