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Std 98 extractor does not fit. J Wisner manufactured replacements at one time however I can find anybody with one to sell. If you have a correct Mexican extractor pls contact me. Ron PS Jim...you should do a run of these and firing pins....don't think you'll have any trouble with sales. | |||
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There's a 1910 Mexican action on GunBroker with a 1936 cocking piece. Can't tell if someone just switched bolts or just swapped cocking pieces. Search the title: MEXICAN MAUSER RECIEVER ACTION & BOLT Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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Just to be clear to everyone. From the pieces I have examined, the knurled piece is an extension of the cocking piece. It is not integral. As such, my plan was to modify YOUR cocking piece by adding the knurled extension. So you can mount that type cocking piece on whatever mauser you want. 98, mex, just send in the cocking piece. Duane, this is the reason I am looking at just making the extension. Ive looked over the cocking piece and with special tooling as a necessity, it would be an expensive, large order. I have just started working with a local machine shop that so far I have been pleased with. They have made several parts for me, but really are not interested in an order less than 50 pcs. And yes, the "Firearm parts manufacturer" bullshit, including ITAR, is just that, bullshit. I dropped my 07 because of it. And in response to "lindy2", Duane, you put me up for the week and I will come up and set up your machine to make cocking pieces  Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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I make a cocking piece once to replace a severely screwed up one. I'll never do that again. And it wasn't even a Mauser one, that would have been worse with the internal cuts. Don  | |||
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  I found the one I have. Needs a Good cleaning and it is a little loose on the back with a little movement, will replace pin. I didn't know they where also threaded. Thought I'd snap a couple picture while I have it apart for this thread! _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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lets see. Three special form cutters for a Hortz mill to machine the main profile. OH thats right Hortz mills are like a dodo bird in most shops now. A simple set up on a CNC lathe to cut the inside grooves One set up on a cnc mill to rough the slot on the inside. The same set up on the CNC mill to finish the helical cam, dry fire stop,and nose of the cocking piece. I did many M70 cocking pieces in this way on a cnc mill. A Bridgeport slotting head to finish the inside slot Make them from either dead soft annealed 8620 or 4140 steel. Been there done many of them on all manual machines a number of years ago. Many of the newer shops simply can not figure out how to do them on a production basis since they do not have a Hortz mill to do the main shape of the part. Would use the hortz mill to cut a 12 to 16 inch long section to final shape and then come back and slice it up like bread to about ,010" too long so it would finish to final length. J Wisner | |||
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srtrax, thanks for posting that! I had no idea they were threaded and pinned. I am astonished that they would have gone to that much work. I suppose they were reworking existing parts, and it was easier than making complete new pieces. Mr. Wisner, Horizontals are making a bid comeback, but as HMC's. Chip management is so much easier for production. The second machine I learned to run, after a shaper, was a horizontal. I frankly don't know how I would function with out my horizontal!  Original on left, mine on the right. What do the masses think? I just roughed this out last night as a prototype. I didn't bother with finish so don't nitpick! Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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I don't see anything wrong with your part, after all it has no real function...but it makes the Mexican a Mexican Mauser. Does the the firing pin fit and work? _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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If you are interested in purchasing please email me at nathaniel(at)myersarms.com with your name and phone number that way I can get ahold of you once I get further along. Once I have pricing you will be required to send your cocking piece and your MONEY to me before I put the order in. srtrax, the way I made it this addition will not effect the firing pin in any way. lindy2, I think I have simplified it the simplest way available to me. I did not want to press and pin as that would require machining the cocking piece. Some I have machined are HARD. (FAL Grunt is a long story... suffice to say my family has a history of being grunt's and I once had an affinity to the FN FAL) Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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James Anderson did this one. | |||
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It shows. Beautiful stuff! | |||
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Richj/ James... who's bolt handle is that. Looks good! _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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Is that a mini-mauser?  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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I noticed that collar ring and wondered. . . Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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I'm kind of puzzled by this thread... Generally I think just about any kind of creative/restoration/machining endeavor is inherently cool, but I'm a little surprised that the pragmatists on this forum would get excited about adding a *non-functional feature to a sporting rifle. It would be one thing on a full restoration, and I have nothing against leaving such features in place as homage to the action's military origins, but to add one to an otherwise modern looking custom rifle? I just don't get it... especially at the bother and expense involved. When I decided to take a mildly sporterized Swede to the next level one of the first things I did was to slice off that checkered cocking piece extension to clean it up and shorten it. (and re-purposed the checkered bit on the bolt stop release...) The Mexican knurled piece is only slightly less homely in my opinion. To each his own I guess, but I think it looks out of place with that beautiful three position safety and custom bold handle. BTW, yeah - what is going on with that bolt just forward of the heat discoloration? Is it a mini-Mauser, or in the process of being cut to shorten it? P.S. *As to functionality, most militaries of the world are performance vs aesthetic oriented. I'm guessing the Mexican design and procurement officials didn't decide to add this piece because they thought it looked neat. For them it was intended to serve a purpose. | |||
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Yes Mini Mauser and it's a Half Moon handle | |||
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I build mine to suit myself as do most of us. Should I message you before my next build? I was going to use butcherboard on my Kurz. I think it will look classic and beautiful. | |||
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Wow... | |||
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Careful, them are fightin' words...  | |||
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There is nothing wrong with adding a few little chingaderos to your rifle ---- if you are Mexican Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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I suppose there is nothing wrong with removing the collar but it just wouldn't look right on the Mexican 36, just like an '03 Springfield should have the knob on the cocking piece. It is part of the esthetics of the action. It is no more essential than a shadow line on the cheekpiece. or a checkered steel butt plate, or skeletonized grip cap, but it belongs. It is part of the character of the Mod 36 and it sets it apart from all the other Mausers out there. I suppose that's why I want one for my rifle. On a hunting rifle the very slight difference in lock time will not be noticed and is not a compelling reason to remove it. If you don't like the esthetics and have one sell it to me and get a replacement. Jerry Liles | |||
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My Mexican cocking piece is in the mail to you as discussed for your inspection. I think they just add that additional touch. Shoot, if we all just wanted functional only the gun business out be boring. | |||
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I guess I should have said it's functional to the eye...  I have them on two 98 Mexican Mausers._____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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Thank you sir! I think it is purdy....  Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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458, For those of us who speak the language we got a big laugh out of "Chingaderas"..Ranch raised on the end of the earth bordering Mexico, 60 miles south of Marathon, Texas!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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that's pretty darn cool yo hablo opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Like side levers on a Lancaster SxS, or fender skirts on a Stutz, I have to admit that it is attractive. I especially like the safety positioned on the same side as the thumb. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Finally got quotes in from a couple shops. Little piece wound up being quite a bit more expensive than I expected. I had to explain to the one qouting guy how to run the darn thing. I will post a thread in the classifieds as well, but wanted to put it here first. If you want to buy just the part it is $15ea. TIG welded, dressed and polished to 180 onto your cocking piece is $75. I need 25 paid cocking pieces to place the order. (Pictures to follow once I get them uploaded) Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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I like the left side safety. The knurled cocking piece, not so much. Dave | |||
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I had not realized how valuable these cocking pieces had become. Picked up a pair of complete 1936 bolts for a number quite a bit lower than this thread is saying the cocking pieces are worth. Will have to tuck those aside...... | |||
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Thank you, I make LH safety. Over he years I've made a few hundred cocking pieces for my actions and the GMA actions. Ironically I cut drop a piece of parent material that is about the same size as the knurled round, Interesting. I use the parent material "extra" for work holding. Instead of parting it off, it could possibly run 2nd opp into an integral round to accept the crosshatch. May have to look at sizes and see what is required and look around for a 36 Mex. cocking piece for reference and sizing. As a side note, I've also made over the years a few hundred Mexican Mauser extractors, I have laid in material to make more. Currently making FN bottom metal, Mex. extractors next. | |||
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