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Has anyone out there ever made an exact copy of a 1936 Mexican Mauser cocking piece with CUT knurling on the knob? I'm not referring to rolled on (impressed) knurling. I believe that the diamonds on original military ones were cut in. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | ||
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No. Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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These are worth more than the actions; (almost) I have a pile of Mex actions with regular cocking pieces, those having been pilfered from them long ago. BUT, they aren't terribly hard to make. | |||
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The later Springfield type cocking pieces are kinda unique but I prefer the earlier 1910 action, smaller thumb cuts, no large oval gas escape holes in the side. Lock time may be slightly less too. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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I cheated and put one on my 1910. IMO, best of both. -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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TCI. Great looking action. Any chance to get a picture of the underside of your bolt handle? Has the receiver been notched for the need bolt handle clearance. Thanks. Ron | |||
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A picture is no problem but I won't be back in town until Monday. -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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I wouldn't miss the large vent on the left wall. But in addition to the unique cocking piece, I also like the small vent and corresponding hole in the extractor and of course the notch on the bolt next to the bolt face (not pictured). Nice look on yours TC1. Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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Terry's is the best of all worlds, like all his projects. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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Well I would certainly like one for my '36. when I had the rifle built the gunsmith turned the knurled part off "to improve the lock time." I could have killed him. Still it is a very pretty little 7x57. | |||
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Original ones are lathe knurled; certainly not hand cut if that is what you are thinking. A sharp knurling tool will produce, sharp diamonds. If there is a demand, I will make some; cost will be $100 each. | |||
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Here ya go. Yes, the receiver is notched for the handle. -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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That IS very neat AND what I hope mine looks similar to when it comes back from the builder! | |||
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Not hand cut, the originals appeared to have been machined with a carbide cutter using an indexing jig of some sort. Now under magnification they do appear to be impressed. My repro on the left was made using a knurling tool and the impressions were way too fine to match my original CP. Can you make them coarse just like the original?
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Knurling rolls come in many different diamond sizes; I would just use a coarse one; yours was made with a fine one and they didn't push it in deep enough. No, they were not hand cut in production; that would not make any sense at all. Could it be done by hand? Yes. But it would be easier to lathe knurl them; you already have it set up in the lathe anyway. | |||
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If someone with an original can measure the distance between the diamonds; that would be good. Measure the top of one to the top of the next diamond. Then I will check and see if I have a roll that size. | |||
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I went one step farther and had a lighting cut like g 33/40 ive never had anyone able to indentify without my help | |||
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_____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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This one was original but I dolled it up some with a tri-angled file. _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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I measured .045 on the one above....like I said I cleaned it up and believe I kept the original spacing, but that's been awhile back. I have another one laying around but I'll have to remember where I put it, if I come across it I'll measure it. _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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Ok, that's doable. | |||
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will these fit only the small ring Mausers or will they work on a large ring bolt? | |||
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Nice extra details there Steve. How did you treat the rear bridge clip slot?
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nod: These are small ring, but 98 design. So they work on any 98 Mauser. Don't confuse them with the small ring, 93 design, which includes the 93s to 96s, and Swede 38s. which uses a completely different design bolt, and receiver. | |||
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Custombolt: I made my own bases to fit the Tally rings...It actually covers the length of the rear bridge, slot and all. _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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Thanks for the picture. Looks well done. Nice little extra detail on the bolt handle where it was welded to the root as well. Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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You'll have to thank Duane Wiebe for the bolt handle, he welded it up. All I did to the bolt is clean up the checkering and the handle. Mr. Wiebe done a nice weld and cut it for the handle to act as a fourth safety. (3 locking lugs + the handle itself) _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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That is awesome. | |||
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Nice work all around. Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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I have offered if someone was willing to loan one out I would look at either having them made, or coming up with a good modification to match it. I tried buying one, but it went well north of $100 at auction. Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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That one custombolt posted I made. My lathe is a piece or crap and I would never would invest in a good knurling setup since it is a cnc lathe and should just be able to cut it with a threading cycle and a single point tool if I ever get the encoder to read properly. If you what to try I will send you one and a customer list as there is a waiting list for them. With family and my full time job I don't have time to put into some of these projects. Seems never enough time. Just like your little escutcheons, if you want to make the drive up you can cut ovals all day long on one of my hurcos. Easy if you have the time and equipment, terrible if you don't. But if you want to try I'll drop a Mexican cp on the mail. Don | |||
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Fat Grunt you have a PM. The only easy day is yesterday! | |||
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I made that same mistake myself, once? Hint: "FAL" Jim Kobe 10841 Oxborough Ave So Bloomington MN 55437 952.884.6031 Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild | |||
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Ha ha.... if only you knew me! Don, I will be in touch! Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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I love the 1936 Mexican action, a little Springfield look is nice..I would like to have one cut and shortened a bit to fit a 250-3000 ala a Kurtz with a springfield cocking piece..NICE Can't believe I sold a couple of dozen of them at one time. A guy at a San Antonio, Tx. gun show had all manor or Mexican mouser, many of them were 1936s, and I got them for $150 each, if you bought one it was $175. I sold them later on for $250 and $300. That was about 30 years ago, time does fly... Wish I had kept at least 5 of them.. Duane, In my youth it was common practice among the locals in West Texas to use the knob for a safety and to lower the firing pin on a "live round" and disconnect the trigger..I never knew of one to fire, but surly some did. In my lifetime I have seen some strange things like holding the trigger back and lowering the firing pin on live round, and they would tell me to never trust a safety.... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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We have done business in the past. I have an original I will loan you. Contact me... | |||
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Anybody got a extractor for one of these? Know where to buy one..need 2. | |||
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