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http://www.cabelas.com/product...3D0&Ntt=Double+rifle My vote. Skip line checkering, and it has the ugliest pronounced action, with a severe slope through the barrels where they meet the action. The barrels are ported, that was a first. It is at the cabelas in Lexington, and I got them to pull it out of the case for me. Hideous, especially compared to my friends A&N .577-450. | ||
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That is homely for sure. But the prize for ugliest and worst double has to be the Blaser S2. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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It is what it is; those outboard bolt lugs do make it ungainly but it certainly would be strong. I would not turn it down if someone gave it to me. Continental doubles sometimes veer from the traditional English pattern, Yes. like the Blaser. | |||
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That one's way pretty compared to the Blazer S2! Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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Paul and Tim nailed it. I would take that rifle over two or three Blaser S2's. Mike | |||
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They had it at the Louisville store when it opened until the Lexington stored opened. The first price was 18k now 16k. They have had it at Louisville and now Lexington for at least 5 years maybe more. It looks a little better in person. Better or at least nicer doubles are for sale for same or less money. What do y'uns think of the clamshell side clips? I nominate the Fuchs double bolt action as the second ugliest double. | |||
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Just for the record I think the Blaser R93 and R8 rifles are okay. But the S2 is an abomination. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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I will take the road of the optimist. The rifle that is the subject of this thread is one beautiful boat anchor. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I wouldn't spend what they want for it, but I kind of like it. Except the sort of odd transition from the sideclips to barrel diameter. | |||
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Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, but I've no doubt that someone will surpass this, if they already haven't. Then again, it might shoot 1/2" groups at 100 yards, and fit the fellow who ordered it like a silk jacket; you never know. analog_peninsula ----------------------- It takes character to withstand the rigors of indolence. | |||
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I don't think its the ugliest... Blaser wins that hands down, but it is in the running for most overpriced... | |||
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and ported at that. I think my former J White conversion gun beats this for ugly tho. NRA Benefactor TSRA Life DRSS Brno ZP-149 45-120 NE | |||
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I kinda like it. Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I was talking to the fine gun room manager in Reno, he said that returning servicemen (stationed here in Germany) sell double rifles, drillings and combo guns and that the idiots that work in the fine gun rooms are buying them for stupid prices. The problem is that the majority of the shit they buy is not sellable. It has gotten so bad that upper Cabelas managment has sent emails to fine gun room managers to stop buying this type of thing. Fjelstads book gives estimations on what the guns should be valued at. So some short sighted gun room managers have paid too much for rifles like this, based on Fjelstads book and not market value. I personally would own it, I don't care about the bad engraving, or skip line checkering. It is a double rifle in a usable caliber. If it didn't shoot inside a skoal can at minute of buffalo maybe not. | |||
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Can this kind of checkering be "fixed"? Not that I'm in the market for this thing, just wondering. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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The checkering can probably be fixed, it depends on if the skip line is evenly laid out to allow the missing lines to be cut to match the lines per inch of the pattern. | |||
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I missed the price had been dropped yet again to 12k. My appolgies. So, the price march down has went from 18k plus to 16k and now 12k. The bear engraving is actually nice in person. | |||
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I don't care for the checkering but all the rest I can live with. Well maybe not the price but otherwise it's okay. Dave In 100 years who of us will care? An armed society is a polite society! Just because they say you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you. | |||
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I agree that the skip line checkering is awful, but IMHO it can be corrected. I have a couple of Krieghoff Ulm Primus DR's which came from the factory so adorned and my German gunsmith was able to transform them. What bothers me is the idea of a 10 pound .375 H&H. My Krieghoff .375 H&H DR weighs only a fraction of that and is a pleasure to shoot. The ported barrels are presumably uncorrectable, so that eliminates it from my consideration, whatever the price. To say that the original owner must have been recoil shy is a vast understatement. | |||
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Well, I always thought "I" had the ugliest Double rifle in the World. This was built by Friedrich Stendebach sometime between 1907 and 1920. Its a 8x57R caliber. With a "Peep Site" no less.                In 2012 this rifle received a "Most Innovative Design" Award from the "German Gun Collectors Association - Vintagers" in Mapleville, Rhode Island. It could have easily said "Most Ugliest Award".   . But, just like your kids, you gotta love them all equally, no matter how they look! . . " .... you never pay too much for something, you only buy it too early .... " How to Hunt Wisconsin Whitetail Deer with a Cannon How to Hunt Feral Cats with a Mortar | |||
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buckstix, your rifle is built like a tank! Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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I actually kind of like it. Can you imagine shaping that thing at that time? What is the metal on the top part of the butt? How does it shoot? | |||
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I like the rifle in the subject line. Lazer weld the ports and fix the checkering. Done. | |||
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Hello PSmith. I saw that you commented about one of these about 4 years ago. And yes, it is very "robust" to say the least. It weighs 8-3/4 pounds - loaded.
Hello Colin Masters, If you look at the 14th picture down, you can see that the metal is a cartridge-trap that holds 4 rounds. As far as shooting goes, here's a target.  " .... you never pay too much for something, you only buy it too early .... " How to Hunt Wisconsin Whitetail Deer with a Cannon How to Hunt Feral Cats with a Mortar | |||
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That thing is sweet. Totally Germanic but it's attractive in its own way. The wood is fantastic. | |||
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Does it shoot ugly? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Buxstix, what a cool rifle. Thanks for showing it. | |||
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